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Old Posted Nov 22, 2022, 11:59 AM
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24- unit 4 story with underground parking.

I stumbled across this render for 510 Ellerdale Street. I don't recall this ever being in any council pack but it was put on the market in February. The listing claims it has all the approvals needed.
Ellerdale already zoned for this size so reason not in a packet is my guess. On a side note, city not happy about speculators using city resources to get a project approved when they have no plans on building it themselves, rather sell it as a package to a developer. Woodward Ave comes to mind for 200+ units that real estate developer now trying to sell.
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Ellerdale already zoned for this size so reason not in a packet is my guess. On a side note, city not happy about speculators using city resources to get a project approved when they have no plans on building it themselves, rather sell it as a package to a developer. Woodward Ave comes to mind for 200+ units that real estate developer now trying to sell.
Makes me wonder how many of these projects are floating around and we have no clue. The number of units planned the city shares usually doesn’t seem to align the post on this thread.
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2022, 2:14 PM
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I presume this is the lot in question? Last open lot on the NW side of Ellerdale.

I always thought a convenience store would do gangbusters on Ellerdale. It's pretty crazy none of the apartment buildings on the street have commercial units. I know it's not a high foot traffic street, but there's one hell of a local captive audience for a salon, doctor's office, corner store, etc.

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An announcement was made today.

Up To 40 Nuclear Engineering Jobs Coming To N.B.

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"As many as 40 new nuclear engineering jobs could be coming to New Brunswick over the next three years.

Kinectrics Inc., a firm based in Toronto, has set up an office in Saint John, the province announced Tuesday.

The company will receive up to $550,000 in payroll rebates from the province through Opportunities NB.

“Our new location will enable Kinectrics to continue working closely with NB Power and various small modular reactor vendors in the province,” David Harris, president and CEO of Kinectrics, said in a news release.

“We are thrilled to be part of New Brunswick’s thriving energy sector and look forward to what the future holds for us in the province in terms of helping to build capacity and increase capability of the local supply chain in support of the Point Lepreau Nuclear Generating Station.”

Kinectrics provides life cycle management services for the electricity industry, with expertise in engineering, testing, inspection and certification.

With more than 1,000 engineers and technical staff worldwide, the company has 20 facilities located in six countries.

Arlene Dunn, the provincial minister responsible for Opportunities NB, said they are pleased to see Kinectrics establish an office in New Brunswick.

“Small modular reactors and nuclear energy continue to be a key area of focus for our province, and Kinectrics’ presence in Saint John will be instrumental in the company’s ability to service and further grow the nuclear industry in our province,” Dunn said in the release.

The salaries for the jobs will be “competitive,” said Dunn, who did not provide any other specifics.

Kinectrics currently has five positions available in Saint John, according to its website. They are looking for an advanced reactor integration and analysis engineer, two piping and mechanical engineers, an electrical design engineer, and a civil and seismic engineer.

According to the province, it is estimated that Kinectrics’ investment will produce more than $11.5 million in incremental GDP growth".
https://www.country94.ca/2022/11/22/up-to-40-nuclear-engineering-jobs-coming-to-n-b




The press release from Kinectrics:

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"Saint John, NB - Kinectrics Inc. announced the grand opening of its new office space in Saint John, New Brunswick. Guests were able to visit the new location and participate in a ribbon-cutting ceremony in celebration of what is expected to be an economic boost for the area.

In attendance to celebrate this milestone were Andy Hayward, Director of Advanced Reactor Development of NB Power, Hon. Donna Reardon, Mayor of the City of Saint John, Hon. Arlene Dunn, minister responsible for Economic Development and Small Business and minister responsible for Opportunities NB, Julie West, Kinectrics’ Vice President of Nuclear Safety and Licensing, and Yung Hoang, Kinectrics’ Vice President of Design Engineering Services.

This new location will enable Kinectrics to continue working closely with NB Power and SMR vendors,” said David Harris, President and CEO of Kinectrics. “Kinectrics aims to invest in the province of New Brunswick which will help build capacity and increase capability of the local supply chain in support of the Point Lepreau Nuclear Generating Station, and for new advanced reactor development and deployment in the province.

This regional presence in Saint John will enable the creation of local, well-paying jobs in the nuclear industry. In addition, it will help develop local investment for the community while working with local suppliers and vendors in the energy sector and beyond.

“Our province is a center of excellence for Energy Innovation, and leads in global research for this sector,” said minister responsible for Economic Development and Small Business and minister responsible for Opportunities NB Arlene Dunn. “We recognize the benefits of adding Kinectrics to our already robust energy ecosystem – this company is a tremendous asset for our province, and we are proud to invest in the future growth and prosperity of New Brunswick.”

With Kinectrics’ long history supporting the nuclear industry, like the CANDU-6® at Point Lepreau over the course of its lifespan, this solidifies its commitment to being a part of future nuclear power research, development, deployment, operation, and maintenance. With the opening of this new office, Kinectrics can support the government of New Brunswick’s vision of investing in new nuclear development, including SMRs.

“New Brunswick has a long history in the energy sector," said Natural Resources and Energy Development Minister Mike Holland. “Our province is poised to become a global leader in advanced SMRs. Having Kinectrics set up shop in our province is another invaluable resource to help us achieve that goal.”

“The work we are collectively doing to develop the supply chain in New Brunswick is part of a larger strategy to support clean energy sources and position NB Power to continue to fulfil our mandate of providing safe and reliable electricity to New Brunswickers,” said Lori Clark, NB Power President and CEO (Acting)".​​
https://www.kinectrics.com/About-Kinectr...Nm0TLmJOYHO3URcCQwvqGlHPsvYhscVaCF_hE48M
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2022, 2:13 AM
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I’ve been looking at some key indicators for growth of Saint John area and it’s quite interesting. I compared to Moncton, not for competition reasons, rather because Moncton is the gold standard for growth in the province and offers context.

First the StatCan Labour / population growth report:

For month of October, 2022 - employment grew double the rate of Moncton at 1,800 new workers compared to 900 in Moncton. For the previous 12 months, employment in Saint John is up by 3,600 compared to loss of 2,500 jobs in Moncton (this isn’t labour force, rather actual employed individuals). Saint John region added 300 new people in October, 2022 and 2,700 over the past 12 months. This is half of Moncton which is 600 for October and 5,100 over last 12 months - so if we can grow at 50% of Moncton that’s amazing considering how well they are doing. In the last month, the labour force grew by 900 in Moncton, and 1,500 in Saint John. In the last 12 months, Moncton’s labour force dropped by 4,200 while Saint John’s increased by 1,500. Tracking the StatCan reports from May 11, 2021 census, Saint John’s regional population is now estimated at approx. 134,500.

To see if these numbers are jiving, I checked CREA stats as there is typically a correlation. For September and October the Saint John region’s real estate market was more resilient than both Fredericton and Moncton. Home sales in Moncton were down 37.6% for October, and down 29.2% in Saint John. For the 5 year average, Moncton is down 22.1% and Saint John 14.8%. Looking at 10 year average, Moncton is down 2.8% but Saint John is up 3.9% for the month of October. I know there are many variables that affect those numbers (like huge growth in Moncton and slower growth in Saint John in the past) but interesting nonetheless.

Lastly I checked the federal job bank - Saint John is at an all time high of 651 listings (approx 2,500 to 3,000 jobs). Typically this number is around 250 to 300. For comparison, Fredericton is at 486 and Moncton 830.

Antidotally, you can just tell the city is busier - I mean Pizza Pizza is opening up 3 locations this year and 2023. Restaurants now turn people away they are so busy or have to wait in long lines to be served - something you’d see in Moncton or Halifax in the past but not here. We have several employers that are looking to fill 100+ jobs, including Federal government jobs.

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^^^

Thanks for sharing.

I didn’t realize just how well we are performing on population growth. When you consider between 2011-2016 we lost several thousand people and we are now on track to gain a couple thousand a year we have surely turned things around.

When I moved in October I asked the leasing agent how things were going and he said it was the busiest they’ve ever been. I hope developers of large scale projects are keeping an eye on these numbers.
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2022, 2:04 PM
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I see fencing is up and windows/trim are being removed from the "Brown House" at King and Carmarthen. Suspect that demo will begin soon.
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2022, 3:08 PM
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Anyone ever see this tired, generic 'glass box attached to a pretty building' NB Museum extension concept? I mean, you have seen the concept dozens of times, and it never gets any more pleasant. https://www.dma-arch.com/en/projects/musee-de-nouveau-brunswick
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Anyone ever see this tired, generic 'glass box attached to a pretty building' NB Museum extension concept? I mean, you have seen the concept dozens of times, and it never gets any more pleasant. https://www.dma-arch.com/en/projects/musee-de-nouveau-brunswick
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6657087

I’ll throw this article in the ring for discussion. I don’t see private contribution to the project a problem, in fact I think it increases the likelihood of the project getting off the ground. What a don’t like and what’s made very clear in the article is back room deals. We have literally no clue what has been done on this file. For all we know there is nothing.

As for the design you shared from the link, yuk!
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2022, 9:52 PM
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Anyone ever see this tired, generic 'glass box attached to a pretty building' NB Museum extension concept? I mean, you have seen the concept dozens of times, and it never gets any more pleasant. https://www.dma-arch.com/en/projects/musee-de-nouveau-brunswick
From 17 years ago - I’m sure it’s not in the running
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https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6657087

I’ll throw this article in the ring for discussion. I don’t see private contribution to the project a problem, in fact I think it increases the likelihood of the project getting off the ground. What a don’t like and what’s made very clear in the article is back room deals. We have literally no clue what has been done on this file. For all we know there is nothing.

As for the design you shared from the link, yuk!
Frankly I'm surprised Jacques Poitras didn't write this article. The 'influence' is politicians devolved authority to museum directors, while separately, Irving has expressed an interest in making a major donation to the museum. CBC just went back to its normal sources- a guy who couldn't hack it as mayor, by his own words, and David Coon. They're both about as in the loop as we are on here.

EDIT: Darling also failed to get anything going regarding the Museum and it seemed to be a back burner issue for him at best during his elongated tenure, so, there you have it.
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Three recently updated listings has pop-up on the ConstructConnect website.
  • An upcoming apartment/condominium development currently in the "design development" phase with a start date of October 2023. Valued at $76-million.

  • An upcoming "Apartments, Special, Vocational Schools" development currently in the "construction documents" phase with a start date of May 2023. Valued at $8,900,000.

  • An upcoming apartment development currently in the "design development" phase with a start date of October 2023. Valued at $8-million.

Source: https://canada.constructconnect.com/joc/...hb6WmxRk17qXFASh3l8NjmHqZp9fuX4A3QYOSwhE
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Three recently updated listings has pop-up on the ConstructConnect website.
  • An upcoming apartment/condominium development currently in the "design development" phase with a start date of October 2023. Valued at $76-million.

  • An upcoming "Apartments, Special, Vocational Schools" development currently in the "construction documents" phase with a start date of May 2023. Valued at $8,900,000.

  • An upcoming apartment development currently in the "design development" phase with a start date of October 2023. Valued at $8-million.

Source: https://canada.constructconnect.com/joc/...hb6WmxRk17qXFASh3l8NjmHqZp9fuX4A3QYOSwhE
Wonder if it’s The Landmark at Tin Can beach or building #2 at Fundy Quay. Otherwise $76m would be a 14+ story building.
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Wonder if it’s The Landmark at Tin Can beach or building #2 at Fundy Quay. Otherwise $76m would be a 14+ story building.
My understanding is The Landmark will never happen, I don't know the full details but from my surface knowledge, I understand those behind it are not in a position to undertake a project. And... if we are being honest I think the Landmark is the greatest example of we now know as "speculative".
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There is a render for the 24- unit building proposed for Wild Fox Drive off Manawagonish Road on the West Side.

This project has already received 1st and 2nd readings however some councilors wanted to see a render of the project before they'd agree to the third reading.
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Someone bought the three non-contiguous pieces of land at Commerce and Loch Lomond/Commerce and Mark (PAN 05180392) at the end of October for $250,000.

I also just noticed someone bought the former Telus and some lots around it at 225-237 Union. Not on PAOL yet, but on the for sale sign.

A cul-de-sac's worth of land in Westgate between Acorn and Downsview sold for $100K in August. Some other vacant land north of here has sold in recent months too.

On the other side of Manawagonish, Mike Cavanaugh acquired more than just the land for his planned 24-unit building on Wild Fox; he also picked up three other parcels for $350,000 total:
-part of the same PID as the apartment #1: a smaller lot that should fit 3 town houses at the end of the private Bent Anchor Court
-part of the same PID as the apartment #2: including a bit of what will be the northern end of Jennifer St and enough space for 2-3 SFHs or 5-7 town houses to the east
-PAN 05913371: immediately to the west of what will become the northern end of Jennifer.
The remainder of this subdivision, to its south where Jennifer ends, is listed for $250,000 currently. https://www.remax.ca/nb/saint-john-real-estate/jennifer-street-wp_idm73000004-24781254-lst

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My understanding is The Landmark will never happen, I don't know the full details but from my surface knowledge, I understand those behind it are not in a position to undertake a project. And... if we are being honest I think the Landmark is the greatest example of we now know as "speculative".
It's gotta be either building #2 or 99 King. Nothing else on that scale is happening right now.

The other lower cost items could be either the Wild Fox Drive, Aquarius, or O'Brien/Wilson St projects. Maybe the approved building on Crown between Leinster and Princess. Or, something over east or in Millidgeville that I'm forgetting.

In full agreement on the Landmark. Will never happen.
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There is a new listing on the CCD Canada website for a new 24-unit apartment building on Manawagonish Road. It's estimated at $3,603,000 and will be 3-storeys in height. Must be the new Wild Fox Drive development that's proposed.


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An interesting new CBC article about the NB Museum.

Source: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-museum-board-uncertain-future-1.6669841

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"The board of directors of the New Brunswick Museum has broken its silence after months of uncertainty over plans for a new home.

In an interview with Information Morning Saint John, board chair Kathryn Hamer denied a deal is in the works for a partnership with any members of the Irving family, refused to say whether Uptown Saint John is still in the running as a potential location and suggested the board has been given a bigger job than it wanted, but is up to the task.

In recent weeks, the former mayor of Saint John and the leader of the New Brunswick Green Party have gone public with concerns over the way the provincial government has been handling the museum replacement project.

The exhibition centre at Market Square has been closed for two years now, and in October its contents were moved into storage with no word on where or when a new facility will be built.


Legislative amendments were proposed in November to give the board authority to direct all aspects of the museum's management, renovations, maintenance and construction.

The board wanted more say in decision making, said Hamer, but "never asked for oversight responsibilities of this magnitude."

It's all "very new" to board members, said Hamer, but they have a wide range of experience, including in public accountability.

"I wouldn't want anybody to think this is going to be a rogue board because we are still accountable to government and to the people of New Brunswick for the way the money is spent."

The museum's books are audited every year and those audits are public, she said.

The board will have to meet all the regular fiduciary standards for government funding, said Tammy Scott-Wallace.

As to whether the board is too short-staffed to handle the project, Hamer said vacancies have been exaggerated.

There have been four openings for about a year, confirmed Scott-Wallace, and another four members' terms expired in September, but they are still serving.

It's possible they have applied and will be selected for renewed terms, said the minister.

It's also possible that the government will be appointing eight new members, which would represent a majority of its 15 seats, said Caraquet MLA Isabelle Thériault during an economic committee review of the proposed changes In the legislature Wednesday afternoon.

A call for new members closed Friday and received an overwhelming response, said Scott-Wallace.

A full complement of 15 is expected "in very short order," said Hamer.

New members will be chosen who have skill sets needed for the building project, she said, and a project manager will be hired as well.

Besides Hamer, the current board members are Emmanuel Elmajian and Pierre-André Fruytier of Saint John, Stephany Peterson of Quispamsis, Wayne Power of Rothesay, Catherine Isabel Eddy, Ian Baird and William Forrestall of Fredericton, Chief Hugh Akagi of the Peskotomuhkati Nation in Saint Andrews, Shawn J. McCarthy of Miramichi and Suzanne Coulombe of St. Quentin.

"We're a highly representative group of people," said Hamer. "I have no concerns about the composition of the board."

Oversight of the new museum project seems to be an "onerous responsibility" for a volunteer board, said Thériault.


Under the proposed amendments, it's also gaining the ability to deal directly with private-sector donors.

According to Hamer there's no ulterior motive for that.

The purpose is to meet "tight timelines" for government funding programs, she said, particularly federal.

"The board has had no discussions whatsoever with anyone in the Irving family," said Hamer.

"There's been no conversation about Irving direction of what we build, where we build and how we build and what's going into the museum and so on."

"I would say that those concerns at this point are misplaced."

Fundraising is done by a separate entity — the New Brunswick Museum Foundation, she said, and it has not yet begun.

The board has been relatively mum for so long because as government appointees they were bound to follow government guidance, said Hamer.

They've also been waiting for certain decisions to be made, she said.

"Now that some things have been decided, we will have a lot to talk about because things are going to happen very fast."

However, she's still not prepared to talk about what sites are being considered. "I certainly don't want to prejudice the debate at this stage of the game," said Hamer.

Public engagement will begin, she said, once there are design concepts and something specific to get feedback on. A number of locations have been considered in the last couple of years, said Hamer.


'Balancing expectations'
Some of the factors that have to be weighed include the amount of space available and whether there are sensitive or risky site conditions, such as wetlands or a high potential for Indigenous artifacts.

The conceptual drawings for the waterfront plan that was cancelled in 2018 by the Higgs government "looked lovely," she said, but the property was about 35,000 feet too small and had no room for collections to grow.

Storm surge is also an increasing concern with that type of site, said Hamer.
"It would be "premature" to say whether Uptown Saint John is still in the running, she said."We're balancing expectations for the entire province.

"It's the first chance in almost a century that we have to build a purpose-built home for the heritage artifacts of New Brunswick."

Meanwhile, artifacts are being stored temporarily at a brick building at 228 Lancaster Ave. and are accessible by appointment.

A considerable amount of upgrading has been done to the building, she said

"It's much better and much safer than any of the storage facilities we have currently been using."
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So judging by the comments made by the board member the only plausible location for a new NB museum uptown is Long Warf and even that may be disqualified due to "storm surges" as despite the investments made in the Fundy Quay seawall they still wouldn't consider it a viable option were it to be one.
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