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Old Posted Feb 7, 2022, 10:20 PM
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It's a trailer park, what's weird about it? Beats an apartment block people don't even equity or friends/neighbours in.

EDIT- seems to be an extension of Burns St. Per Mapquest, Shannon to its north must have filled out: 10 lots are empty on Shannon in MapQuest, and the imagery must be from 2019 or later. PAOL does not even have it subdivided yet (PAN is the gigantic 06809274).

I don't recall seeing many growing trailer parks in NB, so this is interesting.
I didn't say it was weird, what I said was that aesthetically speaking, from a bird's eye view, it looks like a cemetery. I appreciate how orderly and tidy it all looks.
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2022, 8:08 PM
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So, thoughts on Stats Can's "Downtown Fredericton" map?

As I've said elsewhere (and copied below), it feels pretty good to me overall. Sure Nashwaaksis isn't part of the official Downtown, but it feels like a downtown by itself, and it is closely adjacent to the main core.

The wings might need a bit of trimming, but seem okay. On the south side, the West boundary is basically at the Delta and Diplomat which makes sense. (It's actually at Hanwell but the difference is pretty trivial).

The South east end is at the Princess Margaret Bridge, which feels a bit too far. I'd probably cut it off at the walking bridge and go along University Avenue to Beaverbrook.

On the north side, the west end is probably a bit too far, but between Brookside and Sunset drive there probably isn't an easy dividing area, and Main street has been steadily densifying both commercially and residentially over the past few years.

On the east side, I'd probably have extended it a hair to bring in Barker's Point, but I wouldn't take it much further. While Riverside is commericial, it feels more "suburban commercial" than like a downtown.Maybe in another 10 years it will grow a bit more; but it doesn't feel that way.

Any other thoughts on our "Downtown" ?
As I said over in the Atlantic Canada threads (in hte Moncton thread I think), the Freddy "Downtown" map seems a bit strange, but also feels right.

It's basically the commercial 'core' of the city, and while much of Freddy is focused on the Legislature to City Hall section, the commercial corridor of Main/Union street just across the river (and linked by Westmoreland Bridge) does contribute to feeling like part of the 'core' part of the city. It would probably feel more natural if Westmoreland Bridge dumped right onto Main/Union, instead of going onto Devonshire and up the Ring Road; but it's not a big deal (and better for traffic flow).

The wings of the Freddy Downtown map might go a bit far; but it's a relatively minor quibble about a few hundred metres more or less. The south west wing going on Woodstock road goes long enough to encompass the Delta hotel and the GG's house so it makes some sense there. The North west wing goes far enough to reach the edge of the commercial area, but only really encompasses a gas station and some churches, so it should probably be trimmed back a bit.

I'd almost argue the north east side should be extended a little further to take in Barker's Point, considering it stops right on the river bank and the motel and bar are there. The rest of Riverside Drive to the Princess Margaret Bridge is a mix of houses and commercial businesses, but they feel more suburban than downtown. (Lots of car dealers and light industrial places without much density).

The South east end should probably be trimmed back to the walking bridge; beyond that it is mainly Old Historic Residential and park space and the edge of UNB's space. They don't really feel that "Downtown" ish.
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2022, 12:37 AM
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I think I'd consider anything bound by Waterloo, University, and Beaverbrook to be part of downtown as well. It's walkable to the amenities that are in the downtown core as well as to where Sobeys and the liquor store are and as a neighbourhood it isn't too different than say the eastern end of Aberdeen, Charlotte, etc.

Only on paper could the Main/Union area really be considered downtown. It's not pedestrian friendly, with most businesses having street front parking lots and very few mixed use buildings. It's a very typical suburban retail strip, much like Prospect Street.
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2022, 4:51 PM
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2022, 5:09 PM
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So nice to see more housing in the downtown core.
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2022, 6:22 PM
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New LTC facilities to be built in Fredericton and Moncton

https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/news_release.2022.02.0072.html
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2022, 11:34 PM
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I see the stats Canada website has the new 2021 census date

City: Metro:
Moncton 79,470 157,717

Saint John 69,895 130,613

Fredericton 63,116 108,610

A few interesting statistics on population growth for various communities and a few that I was surprised by having a decline in a population such as Oromocto.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2022, 1:44 AM
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The two apartment buildings proposed for 49 Forest Hill Road received final approval by council this evening. Total is 178 units
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Oromoctos population loss was a shock to me. Something like 2%. Any ideas on what could be the cause? It has always been a population growth area.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2022, 4:30 AM
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Oromoctos population loss was a shock to me. Something like 2%. Any ideas on what could be the cause? It has always been a population growth area.
Not as many transfers to Gagetown during the pandemic. It will pick back up again
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2022, 2:11 PM
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CBC story about the proposed apartments on Dundonald and Forest Hill: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-developmen-forest-hill-1.6354717
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2022, 7:14 PM
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Do you know who the developer is for this project?

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CBC story about the proposed apartments on Dundonald and Forest Hill: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-developmen-forest-hill-1.6354717

Do you know who the developer is for this project?
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2022, 10:55 PM
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From the CCD Canada website re the former railway yards development project:

HIGH-RISE RESIDENTIAL TOWER 3, 390 YORK ST., FREDERICTON

CCD Ref. Number : NB165197-22-01

Stage : 3-Planning or drawing

Published : January 28, 2022

Starting Date (estimated) : Not available

Size : Mid-sized ($12,120,000)

Work type : New construction

Sector : Private

Category : 4-Residential

Subcategories : 4B-Residential Development

Disciplines : ARCH, CIV, ELEC, EQUI, HVAC, MEC-B, STRUC, OTHER*

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FREDERICTON (NB)
(Fredericton - Oromocto)

Description :
NEW HIGH-RISE RESIDENTIAL TOWER -
Located in Fredericton, 390 York St., this project estimated at $12 120 000 is in the planning stage. Works concern the construction of a 106-unit residential building, 9 storeys in height, with parking (Tower 3).

- Initiator: INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO SUBSCRIBERS
- Architect: INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO SUBSCRIBERS

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Old Posted Feb 19, 2022, 12:47 AM
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Interesting, I assumed the building on York would be the first phase.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2022, 12:49 AM
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Do you know who the developer is for this project?
I don't but I think it's the current property owner.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2022, 4:32 AM
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Interesting, I assumed the building on York would be the first phase.
I assumed the same. This however may be a call for the next phase

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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 5:16 PM
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Noticed that the property at 367 Union Street is now under offer. I am also assuming that the future owner would look at a multi-level commercial/residential build. Interesting to see how this plays out

https://www.partnersglobal.com/property/367-union-street-fredericton
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 6:06 PM
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Interesting, I assumed the building on York would be the first phase.
Weren’t the two towers off the street supposed to be 10 storeys each?

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Old Posted Feb 21, 2022, 1:47 AM
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Weren’t the two towers off the street supposed to be 10 storeys each?
I think so. They may not be counting the first floor which I think is parking.
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