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[saint John Port Authority Developing Park]
Nov.9th/2007/new For 11:32am:

The Saint John Port Authority Is Putting Out The Call To Develop Puglsey Park. The Area Is Right Next To The Cruise Terminal And Is Considered One Of The Crown Jewels In The On-going Re-development In Uptown Saint John. The Port Authority Points Out The Development Must Be Done In Conjunction With The Fully Operating Marine Cruise Terminal.

President And Ceo Of The Port Authority Captain Al Soppitt Says This Is An Incredible Opportunity For A Tenant To Capitalize On The Asset’s Of The Harbor And All Proposals Will Be Held Under High Scrutiny. The Final Day To Submit Your Bid Is December.21st At Noon.
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Maybe these lights are what makes East Point "unique in Atlantic Canada". Northrup is impressing me less and less. It's a nice development, but it's your standard power centre (before these spotlights, that is). And if you can see them from the west side, they're too powerful and a waste. At least you don't see Halifax's from the middle of Dartmouth and vice-versa.

Question: where is the new offramp of Hwy 1 conneting to?
behind Strescon straight to Retail Drive by passing mcallister dr
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Well...not quite straight to Retail Drive....the new highway access will lead down Ashburn Road to Rothesay Ave....but you'll have to turn and drive a few hundred metres before hitting the Retail Drive intersection....I guess the only downside to this is that there will be yet another set of traffic lights going in....
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Well...not quite straight to Retail Drive....the new highway access will lead down Ashburn Road to Rothesay Ave....but you'll have to turn and drive a few hundred metres before hitting the Retail Drive intersection....I guess the only downside to this is that there will be yet another set of traffic lights going in....
It is straight to retail drive in my eyes, theres no turning except to get off the highway. The Street lines right up with retail drive....
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It is straight to retail drive in my eyes, theres no turning except to get off the highway. The Street lines right up with retail drive....
I thought alignment of the two streets was going to be part of later work.
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You may be correct....its been several weeks since I drove that area, and my memory of it may be inaccurate...though I do seem to remeber thinking to myself at the time that there was just enough of a gap between where ashburn lake rd and consumers dr (? or retail drive...or whatever its name is) meet rothesay ave. that it would make for a rather awkward single intersection
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Its nice to see an increasing presence of clutural/artistic/hospitality based ventures springing up in the city in recent years...we now have a number of art galleries concentrated in the uptown, as well as niche ventures (that beautifully renovated bricks and beam `Happinez' on Princess street in my mind is a fantastic example of this....)




A khord offers comfortable culture
Entertainment Water Street venue continues its grand opening weekend today
Davis
Telegraph-Journal
Published Saturday November 10th, 2007
Appeared on page B6
SAINT JOHN - The name of the city's newest arts and entertainment venue - a khord - provides a fitting play on words no matter how it's interpreted.

Pronounced "accord", its definition is "to be in agreement or harmony"; written "a chord", it signifies a group of notes sounded together.

The name also takes the letters from the names of long-time friends Andrea Kelly and Huey Lord who have opened the coffee house/theatre/bar/restaurant to help fill what they see as a gap in the city's arts and entertainment scene.

When all is said and done, it's a fitting moniker for a gathering place whose owners hope will bring the community's artists together.

Even a khord's logo is reminiscent of the ancient "friendship knot", its loops entwining and surrounding a circle.

"It's the idea of being an individual yet tied to a community," says Lord.

*sic*

A locale where friends and artists can gather for a cup of French Press, freshly brewed by the Red Whale Coffee Company, or a spot where you can grab a nutritious snack fixed by Cater to Your Health, another of several small businesses that a khord has partnered with since it opened its doors in August.

Finally, this weekend, Lord and Kelly feel it's time to trumpet their vision with a grand opening that began this week with a number of concerts and open-stage jams

Tonight, a khord's "hidden talent series" will debut at 6 p.m. with musician Dave Bartlett who will be outed as an impressionist-style painter dabbling in acrylics and oil.

"Anyone who knows Dave, knows him as a drummer," says Lord, "but a lot of folks do other things."

Bartlett will be followed by Crazy Paula, featuring Lord on keyboards and backup vocals.

The entrepreneurs hope to attract talented, little-heard-of musicians, too.

"We're trying to promote people we see as up-and-coming to give them the opportunity to showcase their talents," says Kelly.

Lord and Kelly see their venture as a chicken-or-the-egg-like question - "Do people not go out because there is nowhere to go, or is there nowhere to go because people don't go out?" asks Lord.

"So we decided to draw a line in the sand," he says.

"It's like someone said, 'let's refurbish the Imperial', or 'let's build Harbour Station.' "

"Saint John is often described as a working class, blue collar town. Well, there's nothing wrong with that. Who says working class, blue collar folks don't like music and art?

"People like good things. They like quality and variety.

"I think we're filling that niche."

a khord intends to offer gallery shows, comedy, improvisational theatre and art workshops. The original brick and stone building, at 30 Water Street, offers a comfortable lounge setting and separate stage room with an 18.5 square metre (200 square feet) stage and 74.3 square metre (800 square feet) dance floor.

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Its nice to see an increasing presence of clutural/artistic/hospitality based ventures springing up in the city in recent years...we now have a number of art galleries concentrated in the uptown, as well as niche ventures (that beautifully renovated bricks and beam `Happinez' on Princess street in my mind is a fantastic example of this....)




A khord offers comfortable culture
Entertainment Water Street venue continues its grand opening weekend today
Davis
Telegraph-Journal
Published Saturday November 10th, 2007
Appeared on page B6
SAINT JOHN - The name of the city's newest arts and entertainment venue - a khord - provides a fitting play on words no matter how it's interpreted.

Pronounced "accord", its definition is "to be in agreement or harmony"; written "a chord", it signifies a group of notes sounded together.

The name also takes the letters from the names of long-time friends Andrea Kelly and Huey Lord who have opened the coffee house/theatre/bar/restaurant to help fill what they see as a gap in the city's arts and entertainment scene.

When all is said and done, it's a fitting moniker for a gathering place whose owners hope will bring the community's artists together.

Even a khord's logo is reminiscent of the ancient "friendship knot", its loops entwining and surrounding a circle.

"It's the idea of being an individual yet tied to a community," says Lord.

"We look at ourselves as the dot and everything is joined around us.

"Not that I mean that we're the centre of everything," he adds quickly, laughing as he realizes how his interpretation might be misconstrued as arrogance.

Thirty-somethings Lord and Kelly enjoy the local bar scene - but they don't want to hear Celtic all the time, just as they love theatre and comedy, but don't necessarily always want to dress up for the opulent Imperial.

"We saw this place as an opportunity for a cultural venue that is comfortable and casual," says Lord.

A locale where friends and artists can gather for a cup of French Press, freshly brewed by the Red Whale Coffee Company, or a spot where you can grab a nutritious snack fixed by Cater to Your Health, another of several small businesses that a khord has partnered with since it opened its doors in August.

Finally, this weekend, Lord and Kelly feel it's time to trumpet their vision with a grand opening that began this week with a number of concerts and open-stage jams

Tonight, a khord's "hidden talent series" will debut at 6 p.m. with musician Dave Bartlett who will be outed as an impressionist-style painter dabbling in acrylics and oil.

"Anyone who knows Dave, knows him as a drummer," says Lord, "but a lot of folks do other things."

Bartlett will be followed by Crazy Paula, featuring Lord on keyboards and backup vocals.

The entrepreneurs hope to attract talented, little-heard-of musicians, too.

"We're trying to promote people we see as up-and-coming to give them the opportunity to showcase their talents," says Kelly.

Lord and Kelly see their venture as a chicken-or-the-egg-like question - "Do people not go out because there is nowhere to go, or is there nowhere to go because people don't go out?" asks Lord.

"So we decided to draw a line in the sand," he says.

"It's like someone said, 'let's refurbish the Imperial', or 'let's build Harbour Station.' "

"Saint John is often described as a working class, blue collar town. Well, there's nothing wrong with that. Who says working class, blue collar folks don't like music and art?

"People like good things. They like quality and variety.

"I think we're filling that niche."

a khord intends to offer gallery shows, comedy, improvisational theatre and art workshops. The original brick and stone building, at 30 Water Street, offers a comfortable lounge setting and separate stage room with an 18.5 square metre (200 square feet) stage and 74.3 square metre (800 square feet) dance floor.

"The venue is very warm and welcoming," says Kelly. "It's meant for anyone who has an appreciation for the arts and good music."

For more information, or to inquire about how to get involved as an artist, call 657-8474 or e-mail: [email protected].

I saw that this morning is that were neptunes used to be??
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Yup. From one lame play on words to another.
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I saw that this morning is that were neptunes used to be??
It is. This is a very nice space - I think the layout of the bar and performance areas could be used well for creating a good entertainment experience. Also, the location could be advantageous if used well - this is between Market Square and the Princess Street Bars and across from a parking lot that is free on the weekends and at night.

We'll have to see how it goes.
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Hey all -

I cant find the news article I saw it in, but there is a proposal floating around out there to build a 350km private toll trucking highway from southwestern Maine/ NB border to the quebec / maine border....cutting the tansit time to montreal in half from 10 to 5 hours....i cant recall the name of the company, but the idea seems timely...Maine is investing a LOT of money into highway upgrades, and this idea would place a rather large new highway within a little over an hour's drive from the Port of Saint John.....
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Yup. From one lame play on words to another.
LOL.....true
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You cant tell me you've never seen one of these spotlight setups in a car dealership or downtown or something. They have several in Halifax in the summer time. *sic*
To be fair, the lights at Eastpoint are a little on the intense/bright side, and I'm not sure that it's fair to compare them to the car dealership spotlights you speak of (although, to be fair, I can't quote any kind of specs on the lights at Eastpoint - wattage, lux, etc )

As pointed out in the Nov 7th article in the Telegraph Journal, there was a precedent setting process that the developers at Eastpoint had to go though (i.e., ensuring no ill effect on air traffic, etc, etc) with the end result being that this is the 1st request of this nature in the country to be given the green light since 9/11.

Add to that their rather elevated location in comparison to most of the surrounding area (having lived in Halifax in another lifetime, I can only equate this to sticking some spotlights on top of Citadel Hill), and I think that this is why a lot of debate / opinions are being generated.
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Thanks for the pics Helladog -

The Leinster street development is IMHO the most impressive (in terms of the philosophy behind it and architecture).
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Hey all -

I cant find the news article I saw it in, but there is a proposal floating around out there to build a 350km private toll trucking highway from southwestern Maine/ NB border to the quebec / maine border....cutting the tansit time to montreal in half from 10 to 5 hours....i cant recall the name of the company, but the idea seems timely...Maine is investing a LOT of money into highway upgrades, and this idea would place a rather large new highway within a little over an hour's drive from the Port of Saint John.....
A ROAD LESS TRAVELLED
Trade Maine construction company pitches private, unrestricted thoroughfare linking New Brunswick and Quebec

Reid Southwick
Telegraph-Journal
Published Saturday November 10th, 2007
Appeared on page A1

A construction firm in Maine has proposed a $1-billion highway connecting New Brunswick and Quebec in a bid to strengthen the region's economies with increased trade and investment.

Cianbro Corporation crews could build a private highway through Maine within the next seven years, pending regulatory and environmental approval, said Peter Vigue, company president and chief executive.

The transportation corridor would impose no weight restrictions, allowing transport trucks to haul goods throughout the region on a route that would give businesses better access to markets. The highway would shave about 250 kilometres from a trip between the New Brunswick and Quebec borders and would be accompanied by new utility and telecommunications lines, forming a corridor that would be built along existing rights-of-ways to minimize the impact on the environment. It would stretch between St. Stephen and either Woburn or Lac-Megantic, Que.

"Canadians are not our competitors - they are our partners and we have to start behaving like that," Vigue told the Telegraph-Journal editorial board on Friday. "We have to collaborate in a way that will enhance their economic situation as well as our own, and that's where we're coming from."

The proposed corridor represents an effective solution to a critical problem hampering efforts to increase trade along the eastern seaboard, said Nancy Thorne, Canadian co-chair of the Access Atlantica Northeast Trade Corridor group.

Canada and the United States place restrictions on the gross weight of transport vehicles because of the damage done to roads and highways in the spring as frost leaves the ground. Restrictions vary between jurisdictions, which can boost costs of transporting goods and limit businesses' competitive edge.

"Weight restrictions place Atlantic Canada in an extreme disadvantage to all other parts of Canada," she said. "Here is an absolute, real solution to the problem with timelines in place when we have been hitting brick walls with politicians and just not getting anywhere for years and years."

Cianbro is conducting a feasibility study of the project, which is expected to be complete by April. The firm will then study the environmental impact and the financial feasibility of the transportation route. Following two years of construction, Cianbro expects the highway could be open by 2014.

But the project still has to pass several significant hurdles before it can go ahead.

Cianbro has not yet received public endorsement from key political leaders, including Maine Governor John Baldacci. And it will likely have to fall under the intense scrutiny of federal border agencies in both countries, as Cianbro may controversially propose new border crossings to bookend the corridor.

On the New Brunswick side, if the firm can't broker a deal that would make the existing St. Stephen border crossing "work efficiently to the satisfaction of the trucking industry, we would propose a new site dedicated to the free flow of truck traffic," said project manager Parker Hadlock.

That proposal would come with a bid to allow transport trucks to pass seamlessly between countries, likely aided by digital passes attached to the vehicles.

The request could prove to be a major sticking point for American legislators, who are chiefly concerned about cross-border security.

On the Quebec end of the proposed highway, Cianbro would make a similar bid for a new crossing if company, industry and government officials opt for the Lac-Megantic location. The firm would propose no changes to the Woburn crossing.

Regardless of the work ahead, the ambitious proposal is being hailed as a potentially significant new source of economic growth for New Brunswick that bodes well for the Atlantica concept. And Maine, much like the Canadian Maritimes, is seen as the "end of the road" for economic activity and siloed off from the rest of the country.

Vigue said his proposed transportation, utility and communications corridor would empower the region with new strength capable of supporting -- and boosting -- the local economies.

"This is not simply about our company, and it's not just about Maine. It's about all of us and the next generation," he said. "And making decisions today as we go forward as businesses and governments will impact the future not just today, but for generations to come."

Neil Jacobson, chief operating officer with Enterprise Saint John, said the project would play a critical role in sharpening the competitive edge of New Brunswick businesses.

"The ability of our entrepreneurs and our business people to get their product more efficiently to markets on the eastern seaboard in New England or even Quebec, Ontario and beyond is critical," he said.

"What this project does is really positions us very much in the middle of a much broader economic region that extends throughout Atlantic Canada, New England and across Canada."
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To be fair, the lights at Eastpoint are a little on the intense/bright side, and I'm not sure that it's fair to compare them to the car dealership spotlights you speak of (although, to be fair, I can't quote any kind of specs on the lights at Eastpoint - wattage, lux, etc )

As pointed out in the Nov 7th article in the Telegraph Journal, there was a precedent setting process that the developers at Eastpoint had to go though (i.e., ensuring no ill effect on air traffic, etc, etc) with the end result being that this is the 1st request of this nature in the country to be given the green light since 9/11.

Add to that their rather elevated location in comparison to most of the surrounding area (having lived in Halifax in another lifetime, I can only equate this to sticking some spotlights on top of Citadel Hill), and I think that this is why a lot of debate / opinions are being generated.

I'm not sure about car dealerships, but you do see them a lot from downtown for many different events such as the Atlantic film festival, etc as well some night clubs, the casino have them and they are strong because you can seem them for miles around.
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Good points, and the rationale there is that the bright lights indicate in general some kind of special event (eg - Film Festival, special entertainment at the casino, etc) and draw attention and crowds to the event....

Eastpoint is a little different in that these will be on year round, every evening (??? i guess the special attraction is the mall)....i'd tend to support the whole thing a little more if these things were turned on for specific reasons (i.e, if there was a sale with savings > 10% at some store there....)

although the lights will undoubtedbly attract traffic from the highway, there are some unique hazards this can create in the area as well,.....for example, I'm trying to imagine myself driving from the regional hospital or university out foster thurston road (for those who may be unfamiliar - this is a several KM twisty turny road with lots of trees / few houses (and thus many animals/deer) that leads to the highway across from stresscon and in the distance Eastpoint....) and wondering just how distracting and dangerous it will be watching lights bounce off the cloud cover ....keeping your eyes on the entertainment in the sky instead of on the road....)


lol.....end of my rant on the spotlights.....i'll try and move on to different topics....
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Good points, and the rationale there is that the bright lights indicate in general some kind of special event (eg - Film Festival, special entertainment at the casino, etc) and draw attention and crowds to the event....

Eastpoint is a little different in that these will be on year round, every evening (??? i guess the special attraction is the mall)....i'd tend to support the whole thing a little more if these things were turned on for specific reasons (i.e, if there was a sale with savings > 10% at some store there....)

although the lights will undoubtedbly attract traffic from the highway, there are some unique hazards this can create in the area as well,.....for example, I'm trying to imagine myself driving from the regional hospital or university out foster thurston road (for those who may be unfamiliar - this is a several KM twisty turny road with lots of trees / few houses (and thus many animals/deer) that leads to the highway across from stresscon and in the distance Eastpoint....) and wondering just how distracting and dangerous it will be watching lights bounce off the cloud cover ....keeping your eyes on the entertainment in the sky instead of on the road....)


lol.....end of my rant on the spotlights.....i'll try and move on to different topics....

Oh there are going to be on every night...thats retarded!
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Westside Condo Proposal

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Is the city ready for a 600-unit condominium complex at the Fort Dufferin site?
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An out-of-town developer is hoping to build a huge condominium complex on the West Side waterfront that is like nothing the city has seen for decades, maybe ever.

The question now is: Is the city ready for it?

"It's much larger than any residential development we've seen in decades," said Jim Baird, the city's commissioner of planning.

The proposal could see three high-rise buildings, up to 12 stories in height, built at the Fort Dufferin site, which is at the coastal end of City Line and next to the Partridge Island breakwater. The 6.72-hectare site could eventually be home to 600 units and tie into Harbour Passage or water taxis connecting the uptown and Partridge Island.

A tennis court, pool, gym, sauna and health centre would also be part of the site, which could bring the city between $1.5 million and $2 million in tax revenue each year. The only other condominium projects in the city are those near the Hilton hotel on the waterfront, and the Brentwood Towers in Millidgeville.

Six hundred units on one site is a scale Saint Johners don't often hear discussed: The largest apartment building in the city is the 168-unit complex being built by John Rocca off Ellerdale Street, and politicians have recently been discussing the creation of 500 units spread throughout the entire uptown core.

The Toronto-based developer listed in city documents, Steve Szocs of Lambton Greens Inc., could not be reached for comment, but Rick Turner of Hughes Surveys & Consultants Inc. spoke on his behalf.

He said the investors behind the development will wait to see if the city is ready for this scale of development before revealing themselves.

"That's where the question comes in," he said. "Is the community ready for it?"

Mayor Norm McFarlane is. He first heard about the project about nine months ago and has talked with Szocs several times.

"It's a great project," McFarlane said. "What a beautiful spot for it."

According to a document concerning rezoning brought before common council recently, the proposal would include a mix of one-, two-, and three-bedroom condominium units. The three high-rise buildings would be joined by a one- or two-storey structure with an "amenity space" and parking.

The project would be built in three phases with an eight-storey building and the two-storey building going up first. The other two buildings would be developed later. The proposal is only in its preliminary stages, and no public hearings have been set.

"The site was chosen because of its proximity to the harbour, view of Partridge Island, and, to the east, the city skyline and harbour," the development proposal states.

It says the developer is impressed with the city's waterfront development so far, and therefore will convey a "significant portion" of the site's waterfront area to the municipality so the coast can be developed as part of Harbour Passage.

The document states that the design and marketing of the project would take 1½ to two years from the time the approvals are granted, with the project completed in 10 years.

"The developers have conducted an extensive study of the Saint John region and see the timing and economic conditions are right for a project of this nature," the document reads. Turner said they've taken a hard and serious look at the situation over the past six to eight months.

The documents, prepared by Hughes Surveys on behalf of the developer, argue that the site is a landmark that warrants a high quality project.

They look forward to working with the Saint John Waterfront Development Partnership. Water taxis servicing Partridge Island could feature a stop at the site as a unique way to connect the uptown and the West Side, the proposal states.

The developers peg the annual tax revenue of the site, with a potential $200,000 unit price, at between $1.5 million and $2 million.

The company has a lot of work to do, however.

According to the document, a soil analysis is completed, an erosion study is underway, and access to the land is being assessed. The developer has also approached several groups about the significance of Second World War facilities that exist there.

Built between 1866 and 1878, Fort Dufferin was at the mainland end of the Partridge Island breakwater. It was used as a fort up until the Second World War, when gun emplacements were installed to protect the harbour.

According to the Tourism Saint John website, there are now only ruins where the fort once stood.

The city now waits for 30 days to see if there is any substantial feedback from the community. If there isn't an overwhelming backlash to the idea, the development would go through the same public process as every other residential development - planning advisory committee meetings, public hearings, a majority council vote, and three readings for rezoning, with possible conditions attached.

Turner says the investors have already done "a load of market research," and if the city is willing, they'll be here for the long haul.

"A 10-year window is not unlikely," Turner said.
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