Winnipeg Construction X

[bomberjet]

Centre Village is just a badly executed project. Comparing to Railside is unfair to Railside IMO. It's not the same thing. There are many housing developments throughout the City with narrow catwalks, courtyards, what have you. Just because one thing in a downtrodden area failed doesn't mean kibosh every other development which has a courtyard. Just look at the shit stucco, small units and ridiculous windows on Centre Village. Nothing like Railside. And the whole context of the projects is completely different.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by dmacc

I'm hoping someone here can help explain the interesting road work going on in my neighbourhood.

The concrete road has had a bunch of chunks cut out, about 6" wide and 3" deep and at various lengths along some of the joints that were starting to crumble a bit. They then filled these sections with a very watery looking concrete. Once this cured they cut new joints where the old ones were. The road looks great but I wonder how permanent a fix this is.

Technically its called partial depth joint patch repair as they did not go full depth.

As Bomberjet said its a life extension project and depending on how bad the rest of the pavement is there may be a thin asphalt overlay or diamond grinding in the future to further keep from doing a full reconstruction.

There is a 9 or 10 page city specification on how to properly do these type of patches including the proper mix of concrete to be used.

[BlackDog204]

Holy moly!

I was driving in Headingley on the Trans-Canada Hwy, and noticed all the construction going on at the future Costco site. It's only been a couple of days since they announced the shovels were in the ground, and they are really going at it.

If only the City of Winnipeg could be this ambitious. We would have two LRT lines, and the Perimeter would be completely limited access by now!

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Holy moly!

I was driving in Headingley on the Trans-Canada Hwy, and noticed all the construction going on at the future Costco site. It's only been a couple of days since they announced the shovels were in the ground, and they are really going at it.

If only the City of Winnipeg could be this ambitious. We would have two LRT lines, and the Perimeter would be completely limited access by now!

Oh yeah! The Costco rumoured about 5-7 years ago and approved by the city 1-2 years. Go Costco.

[Xtoval]

Hi Everyone. I haven't been here for awhile. Reading through recent posts there seems to be some rehashing of an ambitious but poorly thought-out public housing project and a skyscraper-Jane Jacobs back-and-forth that our boy Brent definitely has the handle on.

But is there anything about new developments in Winnipeg??

[Doogie5]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Holy moly!

I was driving in Headingley on the Trans-Canada Hwy, and noticed all the construction going on at the future Costco site. It's only been a couple of days since they announced the shovels were in the ground, and they are really going at it.

If only the City of Winnipeg could be this ambitious. We would have two LRT lines, and the Perimeter would be completely limited access by now!

Builders have huge penalties if it’s not finished in timely manner. And I bet the price won’t be millions more

[Doogie5]

Originally Posted by neutroniks

Brent, could yielding/merging lanes be ANY sharper than they already are? (Looking at you, Talbot Ave)

Great example of pathetic city traffic design

[Arcticwolf33]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

https://www.archdaily.com/385093/cen...6-architecture

Anyone know if those two houses will get knocked down along with the apartments?

They are one heck of a eyesore to look at if they stay around!

[Kronos]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_Gik...dkdHgzNjZ3OQ==

Interesting concept….could this work for our rivers?

[eman]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Many European cities are like this. Paris is a good example, where basically every building is around 6 floors, but the city is dense and vibrant.

Paris has rapid transit out into the suburbs, like Tokyo or Bangkok each station be is hub for development.

Someone pointed out that in Winnipeg you can't even buy sandwich at or near any rapid transit stations. Not even a vending machine.

Rapid transit in Winnipeg has been a massive failure. Done properly each station would have attracted newly built retail(main floor) and residential 10-30 floors providing tax revenue offsetting some of the cost of building the transit line. A proper business plan would have set minimum goals, even acquiring some of the land.

Instead Stations like Osborne have no new development after 14 years and no sandwiches.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by eman

Paris has rapid transit out into the suburbs, like Tokyo or Bangkok each station be is hub for development.

Someone pointed out that in Winnipeg you can't even buy sandwich at or near any rapid transit stations. Not even a vending machine.

Rapid transit in Winnipeg has been a massive failure. Done properly each station would have attracted newly built retail(main floor) and residential 10-30 floors providing tax revenue offsetting some of the cost of building the transit line. A proper business plan would have set minimum goals, even acquiring some of the land.

Instead Stations like Osborne have no new development after 14 years and no sandwiches.

It all comes down to poor execution. Nobody lives near the rapid transit station. Who’s gonna walk for fifteen minutes to a bus where they then have to wait more, then spend another ten or fifteen minutes bussing to their destination. When you could just drive your car and be at your destination in the time it takes you to walk to the bus.

Should have been underground at river and osbourne.

Winnipeg is fucking cold, you’d think we could have some decent underground heated transportation in the winter, that isn’t disrupted by weather. you can go all over Montreal without needing a winter coat.

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Originally Posted by eman

Paris has rapid transit out into the suburbs, like Tokyo or Bangkok each station be is hub for development.

Someone pointed out that in Winnipeg you can't even buy sandwich at or near any rapid transit stations. Not even a vending machine.

Rapid transit in Winnipeg has been a massive failure. Done properly each station would have attracted newly built retail(main floor) and residential 10-30 floors providing tax revenue offsetting some of the cost of building the transit line. A proper business plan would have set minimum goals, even acquiring some of the land.

Instead Stations like Osborne have no new development after 14 years and no sandwiches.

I mean there’s Parcel Pizza, O Station Cafe and Friend Bakery all in new buildings close to Harkness and Osborne stations. I can’t comment on their offerings of sandwiches though.

[eman]

Originally Posted by Sheepish

And of note...at this time there are 3 tall buildings under construction in DT. A 4th which was started and is set to resume construction (according to reports), and if Portage Place redevelopment proceeds, that would be a 5th. There is a tall building almost complete on a transit route in Tuxedo in a pretty dense area. There are new tall dense developments along South Pembina on transit corridors, and two buildings scheduled for Parker Lands along the SW transit corridor.

I’d rather live in a new building in Osborne Village on the tenth floor or higher. With a competitive condo market as well as rentals. Anyone moving to Winnipeg or downsizing should be looking at OV, but there is nothing. The Osborne Village Neighbourhood plan (heavily influenced by Jane Jacob’s) is still on the books guiding new developments to 6 floors or less on most streets.

[anthonyk]

Great words by Vike at the City Centre Community Committee regarding the subdivision/rezoning/variances at 611 to 633 Wellington Cres.

Essentially a gated community being built in a place that could clearly be used better.

[rdaner]

^Sorry to hear that stations in Winnipeg aren’t getting TOD. But is that changing now with zoning reform?

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by rdaner

^Sorry to hear that stations in Winnipeg aren’t getting TOD. But is that changing now with zoning reform?

There's like 4 projects underway ATM,, the guy just doesn't realize it lol

[Winnipegger]

Originally Posted by eman

Paris has rapid transit out into the suburbs, like Tokyo or Bangkok each station be is hub for development.

Someone pointed out that in Winnipeg you can't even buy sandwich at or near any rapid transit stations. Not even a vending machine.

Rapid transit in Winnipeg has been a massive failure. Done properly each station would have attracted newly built retail(main floor) and residential 10-30 floors providing tax revenue offsetting some of the cost of building the transit line. A proper business plan would have set minimum goals, even acquiring some of the land.

Instead Stations like Osborne have no new development after 14 years and no sandwiches.

Not sure who in their right mind would compare rapid transit/TOD in Paris, Tokyo, and Bangkok to Winnipeg? Apples and oranges. Like, you're comparing cities with populations of 2 to 20 million to Winnipeg, which doesn't even have a million yet. Of course TOD is going to take a lot longer, and the market for premium sandwiches within 10 meters of a rapid transit station is much smaller.

Why don't we make a more fair comparison, and see how Winnipeg's rapid transit and transit-orientated development plays out compared to Hamilton, Quebec, Tulsa, Omaha, or El Paso? Those would be much more fair comparisons population-wise.

Instead of wondering why the Honda CRV doesn't perform the same as a Lamborghini Huracán, maybe compare the CRV to the Rav4, Rogue, or Sportage.

[Ozabald]

Originally Posted by Winnipegger

Not sure who in their right mind would compare rapid transit/TOD in Paris, Tokyo, and Bangkok to Winnipeg? Apples and oranges. Like, you're comparing cities with populations of 2 to 20 million to Winnipeg, which doesn't even have a million yet. Of course TOD is going to take a lot longer, and the market for premium sandwiches within 10 meters of a rapid transit station is much smaller.

Why don't we make a more fair comparison, and see how Winnipeg's rapid transit and transit-orientated development plays out compared to Hamilton, Quebec, Tulsa, Omaha, or El Paso? Those would be much more fair comparisons population-wise.

Instead of wondering why the Honda CRV doesn't perform the same as a Lamborghini Huracán, maybe compare the CRV to the Rav4, Rogue, or Sportage.

A small example of the residential TOD happening in Hamilton with the LRT construction and GO expansion.
https://www.gta-homes.com/rapid-tran...-rail-transit/

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by Ozabald

A small example of the residential TOD happening in Hamilton with the LRT construction and GO expansion.
https://www.gta-homes.com/rapid-tran...-rail-transit/

This "article" is a promotional piece from "gta homes", a condo developer that wants to sell property along Hamilton's proposed LRT line. As such, it's presenting a rosy picture of what might happen eventually (we've seen plenty of those here, haven't we?), and as such shouldn't be considered analytical in any way.

A quick search produced articles showing the Hamilton's proposed LRT line is having difficulties of it's own:

https://www.thespec.com/news/council...516caa1f2.html

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by Winnipegger

Not sure who in their right mind would compare rapid transit/TOD in Paris, Tokyo, and Bangkok to Winnipeg? Apples and oranges. Like, you're comparing cities with populations of 2 to 20 million to Winnipeg, which doesn't even have a million yet. Of course TOD is going to take a lot longer, and the market for premium sandwiches within 10 meters of a rapid transit station is much smaller.

Why don't we make a more fair comparison, and see how Winnipeg's rapid transit and transit-orientated development plays out compared to Hamilton, Quebec, Tulsa, Omaha, or El Paso? Those would be much more fair comparisons population-wise.

Instead of wondering why the Honda CRV doesn't perform the same as a Lamborghini Huracán, maybe compare the CRV to the Rav4, Rogue, or Sportage.

Yea there always seems to be a constant comparison to major international cities. I mean, I get it, many people travel to these places from a typical North American city and are baffled by how well a well-oiled transit system can move people. They're also common destinations (esp. Paris, London, Tokyo) so it can be a common ground for conversation with anyone who is somewhat traveled.

A lot of posters miss the fact that public transit is so well built and utilized because these cities were not built for the automobile, and such driving in these places is a much worse experience and time suck than to take public transport.

It's a self perpetuating cycle where more public transport usage leads to more revenues and pressure on governments to expand.

The reverse is also true where in Winnipeg we keep catering to the automobile, so the pressure from the public to expand roadways (e.g. Kenaston, CPT extension, freewaying the inner ring road) is greater than transit or AT. Generally someone will champion a cause that impacts them the most, and elected officials will lean to what will get them elected (especially the wealthier voices).