PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 600

hammersklavier · #**11981** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 2:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Kidphilly

Yes but it would look to include some decent sized parcels based on where the tracks run

The could put a greenway diagnonal through the lot to link with Franklin Sq and Ind Mall from the new rail park down Vine. Also probably at least three decent sized buildings

see link

You may recall that the CNU folks suggested something along those same lines:

http://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/chinatown/touring-chinatown-and-its-surrounds-with-the-usdot

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On another topic does anyone know if a new BSL spur station would be possible around Ridge and Noble/Callowhill - could include elevators for ADA all the way up to the new rail park, with three stops.

PCDC is definitely looking at a Ridge Spur infill station at 10th and Callowhill. (I have no idea whether anything will come from that, though.)

br323206 · #**11982** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 2:59 PM**

My rough concept for what I think can be done on the site, given its limitations.

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Knight Hospitaller · #**11983** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 3:09 PM**

Great suggestions for 8th & Race. Does anyone know where to find a diagram of the underground infrastructure that complicates development there?

Kidphilly · #**11984** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 3:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier

You may recall that the CNU folks suggested something along those same lines:

http://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/chinatown/touring-chinatown-and-its-surrounds-with-the-usdot

PCDC is definitely looking at a Ridge Spur infill station at 10th and Callowhill. (I have no idea whether anything will come from that, though.)

interesting, maybe I saw it and it was in head. Also the br image is interesting

on the 10th and noble/callowhill that would help the area

also that spur should be extended to the 15th PATCO station

in the grander sense, the BF bridge approach could be redone for better connectivity on that side as well, could really change the area and desirability plus a walking/bike trail from Ind Mall to the rail trail

Like this proposal

http://planphilly.com/articles/2015/03/23/phs-has-bold-plans-to-redo-base-of-ben-franklin-bridge

br323206 · #**11985** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 4:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

Great suggestions for 8th & Race. Does anyone know where to find a diagram of the underground infrastructure that complicates development there?

No diagram here, but on my proposal the trail is directly above the Broad-Ridge Spur tracks and the mid-rise site is directly above the regional rail tracks.

Kidphilly · #**11986** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 4:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

No diagram here, but on my proposal the trail is directly above the Broad-Ridge Spur tracks and the mid-rise site is directly above the regional rail tracks.

if you go to the satellite view on Google maps it has dotted lines for the underground rail, consistent with what you describe - the RR tunnel appears to be on the 9th street side of the parcel with the BSL spur running diagonally through the lot from 8th and race to 9th and vine

summersm343 · #**11987** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 4:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by photoLith

Photos I got from the past couple of days from beautiful Philly of new scrapers going up.

Awesome pics! Love the last one especially. Thank you for sharing

summersm343 · #**11988** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 4:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

My rough concept for what I think can be done on the site, given its limitations.

upload image

Looks great to me!

jjv007 · #**11989** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

My rough concept for what I think can be done on the site, given its limitations.

upload image

Looks like a good plan which means it probably won't happen.

jjv007 · #**11990** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 7:30 PM**

We're at 600 pages. New thread? PLEASE

SkateboardGreg · #**11991** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 8:25 PM**

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We're at 600 pages. New thread? PLEASE

I know! I can't stand clicking Next 599 times!

Human Scale · #**11992** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

Great suggestions for 8th & Race. Does anyone know where to find a diagram of the underground infrastructure that complicates development there?

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Originally Posted by Kidphilly

if you go to the satellite view on Google maps it has dotted lines for the underground rail, consistent with what you describe - the RR tunnel appears to be on the 9th street side of the parcel with the BSL spur running diagonally through the lot from 8th and race to 9th and vine

Google is approximate. Apple Maps > turn on transit, will show you exact points lines and polygons for all included transit.

Human Scale · #**11993** Posted **Aug 16, 2016, 10:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

My rough concept for what I think can be done on the site, given its limitations.

upload image

Don't forget about the Southern Sun! Your green space would be ruined by a high rise that would completely shadow the free space there.

Hrytsyu · #**11994** Posted **Aug 17, 2016, 12:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

My rough concept for what I think can be done on the site, given its limitations.

upload image

Thanks for doing the research and suggestion!

It's a pleasant surprise that the hidden infrastructure, and hence developmental limits, produce an interesting massing that would have been unlikely without that infrastructure.

kingtut · #**11995** Posted **Aug 17, 2016, 2:42 AM**

Just wandering what's in the pipe line for 2018 and 2019 .It appears there's no major building projects a few years out , coming on line in 18 and 19 . Well Penn's new inpatient center any thing else .

jjv007 · #**11996** Posted **Aug 17, 2016, 6:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by kingtut

Just wandering what's in the pipe line for 2018 and 2019 .It appears there's no major building projects a few years out , coming on line in 18 and 19 . Well Penn's new inpatient center any thing else .

Yeah once CITC and FMC wrap up, there isn't really much major highrise construction taking place, particularly in relation to several comparable cities.

Schmidt519 · #**11997** Posted **Aug 17, 2016, 1:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by kingtut

Just wandering what's in the pipe line for 2018 and 2019 .It appears there's no major building projects a few years out , coming on line in 18 and 19 . Well Penn's new inpatient center any thing else .

I believe a tower or more in UNIV city will be going up by then. Those will be sub 350 ft though. For the bigger development projects, its not for a lack of proposals, its a matter if they get the funding or approvals for their proposals. It takes time. Such as SLS, 1911 Walnut, 2100 market, among other empty lots ripe for development. Most of the owners of these lots are currently undertaking other projects in Philly, once those are completed their decks will be reshuffled and we should start seeing more definitive info on these projects or other lots no one is talking about right now. One big developer have been accumulating a war chest of assets by selling off properties outside of Philly, I expect this is lead to some major dev. project inside the next 3 years. Unless we have a major economic downturn to kill off these proposals.

Knight Hospitaller · #**11998** Posted **Aug 17, 2016, 2:48 PM**

^Although already underway, the W has yet to register on the skyline. Keeping fingers crossed about SLS. These things do come in waves, so let's just hope the skyscraper economy hasn't crested for now.

summersm343 · #**11999** Posted **Aug 17, 2016, 3:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by kingtut

Just wandering what's in the pipe line for 2018 and 2019 .It appears there's no major building projects a few years out , coming on line in 18 and 19 . Well Penn's new inpatient center any thing else .

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Originally Posted by jjv007

Yeah once CITC and FMC wrap up, there isn't really much major highrise construction taking place, particularly in relation to several comparable cities.

W Hotel, SLS, 1910 Chestnut 1911 Walnut are a few all over 400 FT. We should be seeing movement on 2100 Market, Schuylkill Yards, etc. by then too.

jjv007 · #**12000** Posted **Aug 17, 2016, 3:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

W Hotel, SLS, 1910 Chestnut 1911 Walnut are a few all over 400 FT. We should be seeing movement on 2100 Market, Schuylkill Yards, etc. by then too.

Yeah but's that still just 3 or 4 legitimate highrise projects under construction at most. It only comes in waves if the city's economy is mediocre. Cities directly in front of Philly in many ways like Boston and San Fran, or even Seattle, have at least a dozen of these scale projects underway with more constantly going through the review process.
2016 Philadelphia is light years ahead of 2000 Philadelphia, but unfortunately still trails behind and is for the most part growing slower than all the cities classified above it.
I say this as someone who loves Philly and wants nothing but the best for it. Sorry if this post sounds negadelphian.