951 Gladstone Ave | 115/136/145m | 34/38/40f | Proposed

[originalmuffins]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Good project. More than just condos and rentals. Projected construction start in 18 months. I'm hoping to see a new design for the project by then. Getting kind of bored with Hobin's repetitive work.


https://obj.ca/article/real-estate/r...n-corso-italia

Article mentioned a height increase, wondering if they wanted to try again to bring the towers higher?

Either way, anyone have any updates on this baby?

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by originalmuffins

Article mentioned a height increase, wondering if they wanted to try again to bring the towers higher?

Either way, anyone have any updates on this baby?

I think it's a height increase from what's currently allowed, but still a decrease from the original proposal.

Haven't heard anything since that article.

[rocketphish]

Updated renderings (March 2022)

They've gone back to more industrial-look podiums.

[J.OT13]

Every time I see this one bumped, I hope for a new tower design, and every time I'm disappointed.

[Harley613]

I'm just surprised it didn't go back to the drawing board when CLV bought it. I thought it would become a whole different project.

[originalmuffins]

I forgot that CLV bought this one. Seems like Trinity just gets approvals/good lands and sells them LOL. Now all they need to do is sell their remaining portion of 900 Albert so that can get started.

For me, I actually like these towers, wish they were able to stay at 40 floors but hey as long as these get built - I'll be happy. Hoping this gets approved and starts ASAP.

[Harley613]

I'd love to see them sell shovel-ready 900 Albert to Tridel or Great Gulf, or any number of larger Canadian developers that should be chomping at the bit to enter the overheated Ottawa market. I have very little faith in Trinity after the 'Story of Rideau & Chapel' debacle.

[originalmuffins]

Originally Posted by Harley613

I'd love to see them sell shovel-ready 900 Albert to Tridel or Great Gulf, or any number of larger Canadian developers that should be chomping at the bit to enter the overheated Ottawa market. I have very little faith in Trinity after the 'Story of Rideau & Chapel' debacle.

As do I, I fully agree with you, Tridel or Great Gulf or any of the big developers would be able to do this and pull through with great materials. I feel like they're not really serious about the skyscraper business - which sucks because they come up with great designs but can't seem to pull through:

- Rendezvous was a total shitshow (granted I don't think they were 100% at fault, Melnyk had a hand to play but so did they)
- 900 Albert (can't even make ground on it during a hot market with full approvals).
- Story of Rideau and Chapel (the one they really did build and that is by far the worst bait and switch imo).


I'll give them selling off this development ASAP as soon as they knew they didn't want to build it. I think CLV should able to take this on.


Granted, it's weird - they do a good job at retail developments, so they are probably out of their league with skyscraper type developments. Bit off topic - sorry, my rant is over lol .

[SL123]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Every time I see this one bumped, I hope for a new tower design, and every time I'm disappointed.

I actually really like the design of these! especially the industrial looking podium.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by SL123

I actually really like the design of these! especially the industrial looking podium.

Podiums are nice, for sure. Towers seem very clunky. Too much going on. A high quality rendering might help though.

[qprcanada]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Podiums are nice, for sure. Towers seem very clunky. Too much going on. A high quality rendering might help though.

I work for a business that leases space in the existing buildings and they have a six month demolition clause in their lease, it hasn't been triggered yet.

[originalmuffins]

Another thing to note, I'm really liking the mixed use aspect of these buildings. Every building has first floor retail, there's office space for 3-4 floors, and residential in the higher floors. It's a good plan imo.

[J.OT13]

I thought it was already approved, but it's returning to Planning Committee on October 27th for an amendment. Apparently, a new gym opened up in one of the spaces according to someone on Rail Fans Discord, so it could be a while before we see shovels in the ground.

https://pub-ottawa.escribemeetings.c...a&lang=English

[J.OT13]

From Leiper's newsletter:

Standard Bread zoning to be considered
Also on Thursday, Planning Committee will debate the proposed zoning for the tall, dense development at Gladstone Station that will incorporate the Standard Bread building. There are no surprises here, and the development is largely what was contemplated by the secondary or community design plan. My focus for the past several months has been the benefits arrangement with the artists currently using the space there. During this process, changes by Queen's Park to the benefits regime have reduced the amount that can be strictly required of CLV, the developer. However, I'm pleased that CLV has worked productively with the City and with me to provide well over and above the required amounts to ensure the artist presence in the building for years to come. Get the full details of this application here.

[J.OT13]

City holding provision will be removed once the following is confirmed:

- Relocation strategy for existing artist tenants;
- Secured affordable unit rent for artist tenants;
- $1,000,000 towards Ward 15 affordable housing;
- $1,000,000 towards Laurel Street ped bridge;
- Multi-use pathway along east side of site (second Trillium pathway);
- Public access easement;
- Phasing plan should the project go up in phases;
- Determining any required mitigation for stationary noise.

Maintain the permission for a light industrial use limited to a brewery. Allow outdoor patio.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

City holding provision will be removed once the following is confirmed:

- Relocation strategy for existing artist tenants;
- Secured affordable unit rent for artist tenants;
- $1,000,000 towards Ward 15 affordable housing;
- $1,000,000 towards Laurel Street ped bridge;
- Multi-use pathway along east side of site (second Trillium pathway);
- Public access easement;
- Phasing plan should the project go up in phases;
- Determining any required mitigation for stationary noise.

Maintain the permission for a light industrial use limited to a brewery. Allow outdoor patio.

As in noise from the station, or does that mean something else?

[LRTeverywhere]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

As in noise from the station, or does that mean something else?

Noise from Canadian Bank Note Company next door, their loading dock which apparently is quite active faces tower 3. They are currently working out a deal with the devoloper to pay for noise mitigation, but its going quite slow apparently. Don't know how they didn't come to a deal in the last 3 years.

[Harley613]

Artists use a lot of 'Stationary', just sayin.....

[rocketphish]

Canadian Bank Note Company doesn't want to foot $7M bill to dampen noise for new neighbours
Rezoning of an industrial site to mixed-use residential requires deal for noise mitigation

Matthew Kupfer · CBC News
Posted: Oct 27, 2022 3:38 PM ET | Last Updated: 9 hours ago

The Canadian Bank Note Company is concerned it could be stuck with a $7 million bill for noise mitigation — and possibly face delays in its operations — if the noise rules for its Gladstone Avenue building are changed to accommodate new residential towers.

Executive president Gordon McKechnie told planning committee Thursday there was no noise problem, but committee would create one as it approved a zoning change to allow construction of three mixed-use, residential towers — at 30, 33 and 35-storeys — at Gladstone and Loretta avenues, where the company building is located.

McKechnie said it was premature for the committee to approve the zoning changes before a deal could be made with the developer CLV Group Developments Inc. on costs and measures for noise mitigation.

A representative for the developer told committee the negotiations were going well.

He talked about regular, around-the-clock beeping from commercial vehicles using a loading bay that would face the new towers.

"There's a lot of work that still has to be done in terms of reaching an agreement, not only with the developer, but working with the city to make sure all the right provisions are in place to make sure people aren't unawares that when they move into this facility, they're not going to be happy," McKechnie said.

Kitchessippi Coun. Jeff Leiper, who was re-elected Monday night, proposed a conditional hold on the approval pending a deal being struck between the company and the developer.

Leiper also said he'd prepare a motion to involve staff if the company and developer make an agreement before the proposal reaches full city council in two weeks.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...ment-1.6628892

[SL123]

Application Approved by Council 2022-11-10