Hamilton Votes 2008 - Page 6

SteelTown · #**101** Posted **Sep 16, 2008, 3:39 AM**

Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion is set to become the first leader to visit Hamilton for the election, indicating his party has strong beliefs – and polling – telling them area ridings are in play and can be reclaimed by the once dominant Liberals.

Dion, also expected to make a policy announcement, will attend a campaign rally with local candidates Wednesday at 6 p.m. at the Carpenter’s Union Hall on Stonechurch Road East in the riding of Hamilton Mountain.

astroblaster · #**102** Posted **Sep 16, 2008, 3:49 AM**

is it too much to ask for a LIB/NDP/GRN alliance?

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politicians love working together... right?

bornagainbiking · #**103** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 11:16 AM**

So I watched the daily propagandaon TV and read the paper(s) daily and though I have a preference I decided to check out the three main leaders (Conservative, Liberal and NDP). (Green too).
I truely believe that the real reason the world, politics and society is messed up is because no one can make a decision and LAWYERS GET PAID BY THE HOUR...... Talk about drag things out $$$$$$$$$$. Look at the court system.
Most politicians were lawyers, and why must it be a lawyer from Quebec (Trudeau, Chretian Martin) to run all Canada?
Well this batch are slightly different. Check it out. Two are career politicians or academics and never had a real job. Both born in Quebec.
One dropped out of University and move from TORONTO (Ontario boy) to Alberta and started out in a mail room and worked his way up and then returned to school. Getting his masters in Economics. Loves Hockey.
So we can get real defensive here and refer to the "reform party" I say look at whole picture. I believe in some of the Green Party platform and think they should be listened to. Funny just checked Ms May out and she is a lawyer haha and originally from the US.
I am just a fairly normal middle class working stiff and maybe it is about time we have one of them. Someone who may have felt my pain. (kids, bills and a job) I let my vote put a person with some real life experience in there.

SteelTown · #**104** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 11:25 AM**

We still don't have a Liberal candiate in Hamilton Centre. I guess Dion will introduce the person when he makes a stop into Hamilton today.

RePinion · #**105** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 12:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by bornagainbiking

So I watched the daily propagandaon TV and read the paper(s) daily and though I have a preference I decided to check out the three main leaders (Conservative, Liberal and NDP). (Green too).
I truely believe that the real reason the world, politics and society is messed up is because no one can make a decision and LAWYERS GET PAID BY THE HOUR...... Talk about drag things out $$$$$$$$$$. Look at the court system.
Most politicians were lawyers, and why must it be a lawyer from Quebec (Trudeau, Chretian Martin) to run all Canada?
Well this batch are slightly different. Check it out. Two are career politicians or academics and never had a real job. Both born in Quebec.
One dropped out of University and move from TORONTO (Ontario boy) to Alberta and started out in a mail room and worked his way up and then returned to school. Getting his masters in Economics. Loves Hockey.
So we can get real defensive here and refer to the "reform party" I say look at whole picture. I believe in some of the Green Party platform and think they should be listened to. Funny just checked Ms May out and she is a lawyer haha and originally from the US.
I am just a fairly normal middle class working stiff and maybe it is about time we have one of them. Someone who may have felt my pain. (kids, bills and a job) I let my vote put a person with some real life experience in there.

Give me a break. Are you suggesting that Harper is just a "fairly normal middle class working stiff" just because he's not a lawyer? C'mon, while the guy may be the first non-lawyer Prime Minister since Lester Pearson, he's no more in touch with day to day reality than anyone else. The guy has been a devoted, hard-core ideologue for decades. Essentially his entire adult life has been politically oriented. Those sweater ads really seem to have worked a number on you.

I hate lawyers as much as the next guy (probably more than the next guy, since I am one and deal with them every day), but practising or teaching law should not be a demerit held against a candidate. Indeed, as ambivalent as I am about the profession, having an in-depth and professional understanding of how law and government works is very much an asset. There's a reason why virtually every important political leader in the past several hundred years has been a lawyer, and it has nothing to do with any sort of conspiracy against normal working stiffs.

BrianE · #**106** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 1:22 PM**

One of my core opinions on political life is that Prime Ministers (or Presidents) do not govern in a vaccuum. Meaning that just because Harper, or Dion or Bush are technicaly "the leaders" doesn't mean that the descisions they make aren't heavily influenced by the people and advisors that they keep in their company.

Nobody, is an expert on everything and this is especialy true with politicians. I'm much more concerned about who a candidate keeps as his/her core advisors on the big issues than I am about how they started out, or what they do on their days off.

markbarbera · #**107** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 1:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by SteelTown

We still don't have a Liberal candiate in Hamilton Centre. I guess Dion will introduce the person when he makes a stop into Hamilton today.

Sure we do. Her name is Helen Wilson. She was appointed to replace Ms. Young last Wednesday I believe.

SteelTown · #**108** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 1:35 PM**

Ah okay. I haven't seen a single Liberal sign so they must still be waiting for the new signs.

Over Hamilton Mountain it's already loaded with Tyler Banham's signs.

raisethehammer · #**109** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 3:28 PM**

pretty bad when I only recognize one name on a lawn sign all over town - Christopherson.
The rest of them, I've never heard of.

BrianE · #**110** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 3:40 PM**

The other parties have definitely abandoned Hamilton Centre to the NDP. They're not even trying anymore.

markbarbera · #**111** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 3:49 PM**

Which is a shame, seeing how Christopherson's tenure as MP thus far has been rather lacklustre.

markbarbera · #**112** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 3:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by raisethehammer

pretty bad when I only recognize one name on a lawn sign all over town - Christopherson.
The rest of them, I've never heard of.

Surely, you have heard of Larry DiIanni

raisethehammer · #**113** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 5:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by markbarbera

Surely, you have heard of Larry DiIanni

haha....oh yea! Is he running??
I'm never out that way, so I haven't seen those signs.

FairHamilton · #**114** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 7:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by raisethehammer

haha....oh yea! Is he running??
I'm never out that way, so I haven't seen those signs.

His signs are up along Barton. I've only seen his and Christopherson's signs so far.

markbarbera · #**115** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 8:12 PM**

I noticed a few for John Livingston (Greens) appeared overnight. Including one on my front lawn.

raisethehammer · #**116** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 8:34 PM**

Lol

FairHamilton · #**117** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 8:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by markbarbera

I noticed a few for John Livingston (Greens) appeared overnight. Including one on my front lawn.

Hopefully, it's an environmentally friendly sign. My neighbour said our neighbourhood doesn't get much attention from candidates, so I'm not expecting to see any of them at my door.

If the Greens came around, I'd put one on my lawn.

markbarbera · #**118** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 8:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by FairHamilton

Hopefully, it's an environmentally friendly sign. My neighbour said our neighbourhood doesn't get much attention from candidates, so I'm not expecting to see any of them at my door.

If the Greens came around, I'd put one on my lawn.

Online form for sign requests:
http://greenparty.ca/en/civicrm/prof...id=11&ed=35031

What would you consider an environmentally friendly sign?

SteelTown · #**119** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 8:52 PM**

I always get candidates knocking on my door on Sundays usually around 2pm.

FairHamilton · #**120** Posted **Sep 17, 2008, 9:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by markbarbera

Online form for sign requests:
http://greenparty.ca/en/civicrm/prof...id=11&ed=35031

What would you consider an environmentally friendly sign?

One that is 100% made of recycled material, and obviously then is 100% recyclable again.