ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[Pemgin]

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

I did read the article - it was after reading it that I posted my amazement at all this kerfuffle. If it is so complicated, I guess the drivers will have to be trained for several months. C'mon already - it is a streetcar and they are ubiquitous throughout the civilized world. I do hope it opens and runs before another year passes.

Everything about this system is brand new. And just because the technology exists elsewhere doesn't mean that the equipment is automatically good to go. These particular cars, wires, tracks, etc. have to be tested to make sure they're safe. Plus, each city is unique, so every thinkable contingency specific to how our system operates on our streets must be considered. Just because it works in city X doesn't automatically mean it will work the same way in Atlanta.

[Tuckerman]

Originally Posted by Pemgin

Everything about this system is brand new. And just because the technology exists elsewhere doesn't mean that the equipment is automatically good to go. These particular cars, wires, tracks, etc. have to be tested to make sure they're safe. Plus, each city is unique, so every thinkable contingency specific to how our system operates on our streets must be considered. Just because it works in city X doesn't automatically mean it will work the same way in Atlanta.

Just a final note on this and I leave it to you believers and positive thinkers. A lot of what is going on here kind of mirrors the problems with the new DC streetcar system which has suffered numerous delays and now is even termed " a streetcar named "delay". With Atlanta, even if you go to the official website, testing was supposed to begin months ago. Also 60-90 days of testing for such a small system seems excessively long. If the problems are related to certification then they should just say that and not release any promises until they have their certification in hand.

If this system is, as stated, so-brand new and different, then I believe we are in store for many delays and problems in the future. If ever there was a good argument for staying with known proven technologies, this must be it. Why make something relatively straightforward more complex than it needs to be. I sincerely hope it succeeds, however this is not an auspicious beginning.

[briantech]

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

Just a final note on this and I leave it to you believers and positive thinkers. A lot of what is going on here kind of mirrors the problems with the new DC streetcar system which has suffered numerous delays and now is even termed " a streetcar named "delay". With Atlanta, even if you go to the official website, testing was supposed to begin months ago. Also 60-90 days of testing for such a small system seems excessively long. If the problems are related to certification then they should just say that and not release any promises until they have their certification in hand.

What kind of certifications? Like from the manufacturer or something?

[ATLonthebrain]

I don't pretend to know all of the safety procedures and testing which must be adhered to prior to the streetcar receiving its certification to go live with passengers. I certainly would hope that everything which is required is followed to the letter and properly documented, so that there is no question or doubt when the authorities state all safety checks have been successfully completed, and subsequently announcing a firm start of service date. It appears that day is coming soon..delayed, yes, which is frustrating, but it clearly is coming! What I'm seeing is progress, and sharing of information with the public on the components of testing program, not excuses..

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

This is a most prolonged, drawn-out drama!

Is this your first time watching a government project? The one in Edinburgh opened seven years behind schedule. A few months is a victory.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by briantech

What kind of certifications? Like from the manufacturer or something?

You can't turn those things loose on city streets without thoroughly checking them out.

[Tuckerman]

Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

Is this your first time watching a government project? The one in Edinburgh opened seven years behind schedule. A few months is a victory.

Ah yes - you really caught me out on this one !! I worked for 10 years with the Scottish government in Edinburgh before working for >than 20 years for the Feds here! Yes, I should know better; but, in retirement, I can take my shots.

Let's just hope that the tram/streetcar will be successful when it finally comes on line.

[Atlanta3000]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

jeez, if fuqua gets it, expect the whole fucking thing to get turned into a parking lot.

Or a super sized F'en Wal-Mart with an adjacent Payless shoe store and a gas station.

[thebigATL]

More on 60th 11:
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http://www.rjtplusr.com/html%20website/mixed.html

[Itsthepopei]

Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Or a super sized F'en Wal-Mart with an adjacent Payless shoe store and a gas station.

payless is already there

[thebigATL]

Does anyone knows about this: http://www.rjtplusr.com/html%20website/retail.html
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12th Midtown master plan? (NEW OR OLD?)

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Kennesaw State Master Plan:

[Itsthepopei]

[QUOTE=thebigATL;6758394]Does anyone knows about this: http://www.rjtplusr.com/html%20website/retail.html
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12th Midtown master plan? (NEW OR OLD?)

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old this is whats already built to date

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

Ah yes - you really caught me out on this one !! I worked for 10 years with the Scottish government in Edinburgh before working for >than 20 years for the Feds here! Yes, I should know better; but, in retirement, I can take my shots.

Ha, quite a coincidence there. I believe in our case most of the delay was due to utilities discovered during construction. It's an old section of the city so a lot of them aren't documented.

[AtlantaMustang]

Buckhead CID may pay developers to add public parking to new West Village projects

The Buckhead Community Improvement District has an informal goal of improving public parking opportunities in Buckhead’s West Village area and may seek to partner with The Hanover Co. to develop additional public parking at its planned mixed-use project next to the Buckhead Theatre.

The suggestion of the CID financing opportunities for additional public parking in the Buckhead Village area came up during a review Oct. 1 of Hanover’s plans for a 351-unit luxury apartment tower with 12,975 square feet of street-level commercial space over a planned 662-space parking deck at 3116 Roswell Road.

http://buckheadview.com/2014/10/06/buckh...ublic-parking-new-west-village-projects/

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

There is heavy equipment at the GA400 i285 interchange taking soil and rock samples today.

[Tuckerman]

Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

Ha, quite a coincidence there. I believe in our case most of the delay was due to utilities discovered during construction. It's an old section of the city so a lot of them aren't documented.

I can relate. My wife worked on the redesign of an 18th century office building in downtown Edinburgh - talk about no plans and/or discovery of the unexpected!. One hopes that a younger city like Atlanta might be better documented, but I understand. I think it would be good if these kinds of problems were better attested to publicly. One can be more tolerant of delay if you know why.

[micropundit]

BuckheadView has learned that the new six-story flagship RH Atlanta Design Gallery (as in Restoration Hardware) is scheduled to open in Buckhead—across Peachtree Road from Buckhead Atlanta—on Nov. 21, the Friday before Thanksgiving and the official start of the holiday shopping season.


http://buckheadview.com/2014/10/07/buckhead-6-story-rh-design-gallery-slated-open-nov-21/

[PremierAtlanta]

Wow, the designers of the RH did an amazing job of making this brand new structure blend in well with the newly opened Buckhead Atlanta complex across Peachtree. I am liking the cohesiveness. It will be opened just in time for the holiday shopping season. I look forward to visiting this store when I am next in the city.

[ericdeatl]

Here's a better rendering of the 782 Peachtree apartment building than I've seen elsewhere, from the JLB Partners website:



http://www.jlbpartners.com/portfolio/show/34-AT-T

Apparently they don't have a name for it yet other than "AT&T" (the former owner of the land).

The JLB site indicates it will have 290 units and be opening in May 2016.

Here's a list from Midtown Alliance with small renderings, unit counts, retail SF, etc. for many recently proposed and under construction projects; it does not have the very most recent proposed ones however:

http://www.midtownatl.com/_files/docs/jor-development-projects---2013-2014---6.24.14.pdf

[Pemgin]

Looks like they're starting to make a bit of progress on 250 Piedmont. When I drove past this afternoon, it looked like several windows had been replaced on the lower floors.