AUSTIN | Project Updates Thread Part II

[The ATX]

Maybe I'm just immature in my thinking, but I would not give my hotel project a name that roughly translates into "big turd."

[MichaelB]

It's so sad watching those sprawl developments in the hills.
Just IMO...
Would prefer not to celebrate that in a "SKYSCRAPER" forum.
Espeically that crap faux architecture hotel.
Perhaps a sub forum entitled "What and Where not to build".

[ahealy]

Originally Posted by MichaelB

It's so sad watching those sprawl developments in the hills.
Just IMO...
Would prefer not to celebrate that in a "SKYSCRAPER" forum.
Espeically that crap faux architecture hotel.
Perhaps a sub forum entitled "What and Where not to build".

yeah, all that crap is so depressing

[Downtown_Austin]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

This one looks to be the biggest one now. There's even a rumor it may be close to 70 floors from what someone said on the forum.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=212717

I've also heard about the 70 floor +/- rumor from someone close to the principal developers. Fingers crossed!

[MichaelB]

Originally Posted by ahealy

yeah, all that crap is so depressing

I love the fly over..... it's like...".Oh look at the view of the pretty hills.".. we just f**ked up!

[lzppjb]

How tall would a 70 story building be, roughly? I know you can't take into account architecture, but what would the average floor heights be?

[lzppjb]

I found this site: http://www.ctbuh.org/TallBuildings/H...B/Default.aspx

If it's condos, then I'm assuming it'd be closer to that 3.1m figure.

67 floors @ 3.1
Lobby @ 4.65
2 mechanical levels @ 4.65
mechanical on roof @ 6.2

=227.85m or 747 feet

[KevinFromTexas]

Originally Posted by JoninATX

An aerial view of Capital Ridge.

This link should work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ejdUETtAA

When you want to post youtube videos on the forum with them embedded in your post, all you need is the part of the youtube link after the = sign. So in this case it's this part: 0-ejdUETtAA

Take that part and wrap it with the youtube code like this:

[youtube]0-ejdUETtAA[/youtube ]

Bring in that last bracket on the end so it's up against the e at the end, and you get a live link.

• Video Link

It's similar for vimeo videos, too, but you need the part behind the /

http://vimeo.com/89755973

So you would need 89755973

The code is nearly the same for vimeo, it's [vimeo]89755973[/vimeo ]

Just bring in that last bracket and you get a live link.

Video Link

[KevinFromTexas]

Originally Posted by lzppjb

I found this site: http://www.ctbuh.org/TallBuildings/H...B/Default.aspx

If it's condos, then I'm assuming it'd be closer to that 3.1m figure.

67 floors @ 3.1
Lobby @ 4.65
2 mechanical levels @ 4.65
mechanical on roof @ 6.2

=227.85m or 747 feet

It's supposed to be a mix of condos and office space, so it'll probably be taller than that.

Downtown Austin Blog had an article back in August saying it would have 120,000 square feet of office space. I'm not sure how many floors the office space would occupy, but I would assume 4 or 5 based on typical office floor plate sizes. Something else to consider is taller buildings usually have mechanical floors halfway up the building. That link says it's typical to have one every 20 floors. So it should have at least 2 and maybe even 3 of them. These mechanical floors are elevator transfer floors since elevators in taller buildings rarely go all the way to the top from the lobby. Some of those floors usually contain conference rooms or other mechanical/utility uses. It's a security issue, but it's also meant to help speed up elevator wait times. It's also used in buildings with mixed uses where you want separate elevator banks for your residential use versus the commercial uses. I'm not sure if the floor numbers we've been hearing are counting the mechanical levels or not. Usually developers don't count them in the advertised floor count since they aren't rentable spaces.

http://downtownaustinblog.org/2014/0...tive-ventures/

- 120,000 square feet of office space

[lzppjb]

I accounted for 2 mechanical floors. Resedential is one every 30 floors. Office is one every 20 floors.

I didn't know that about it being office & condos. A mixed-use 70-story (3.5 average) would be 852' (with 2 mechanical floors). So, it'd probably be in between those 2.

Add a 200' spire and we're talking 1,000'.

[ATXboom]

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/bl...ects-move.html

[paul78701]

Originally Posted by lzppjb

Add a 200' spire and we're talking 1,000'.

Then this could potentially be the tallest in Texas.

[JoninATX]

Thanks Kevin.

[Jdawgboy]

Originally Posted by Hill Country

Maybe I'm just immature in my thinking, but I would not give my hotel project a name that roughly translates into "big turd."

Way back when I first heard the name of this project, I was tempted to mention that very thing and joke about it. Though technically when pronouncing the c, it's more like s or sia. But I'm sure when most people read that name the first thing that will pop in their head is likely going to be similar to what we are talking about LMAO

[KevinFromTexas]

Zoning change review for 1301 West 5th Street. The plan is for a 113 foot multi-family building. The 2nd link says it'll have 285 apartments.

By the way, the review talks about a 98 foot building in the area. That is the Capstar at Compass Plaza office building. it's located at 1701 West 5th Street. The building elevations actually show that building to be 103 feet to the main roof and 117 feet to the mechanical penthouse. So in reality this building isn't any different from what's already nearby. And one thing to note, that other building is even farther west (farther from downtown) than this one will be.

This says "Staff" is recommending limiting the height to 75 feet. Is this the planning commission they're referring to?

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=220006

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=220048

[H2O]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Zoning change review for 1301 West 5th Street. The plan is for a 113 foot multi-family building. The 2nd link says it'll have 285 apartments.

By the way, the review talks about a 98 foot building in the area. That is the Capstar at Compass Plaza office building. it's located at 1701 West 5th Street. The building elevations actually show that building to be 103 feet to the main roof and 117 feet to the mechanical penthouse. So in reality this building isn't any different from what's already nearby. And one thing to note, that other building is even farther west (farther from downtown) than this one will be.

This says "Staff" is recommending limiting the height to 75 feet. Is this the planning commission they're referring to?

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=220006

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=220048

'Staff' are the professional planning staff in the Planning and Development Review Department. The Planning Commission (and all other Boards and Commissions members) are volunteers appointed by Council. They may or may not be professionals in their fields.

[GoldenBoot]

Originally Posted by H2O

'Staff' are the professional planning staff in the Planning and Development Review Department. The Planning Commission (and all other Boards and Commissions members) are volunteers appointed by Council. They may or may not be professionals in their fields.

Please define a "professional in their field" for us. If I am a lawyer - I'm a "professional" lawyer (i.e., a lawyer by "profession"). If I am an architect, then, by all means, I am a "professional" architect! Hell, and activist could be considered a "professional" activist; a waitress could be considered a "professional" waitress!

Furthermore, not all employees of the City's Planning Office have degrees which would lead you to believe they are qualified to served as planners/"overseers" of urban (or suburban) development. All they do is review the petition to make sure it follows city codes and ordinances.

In fact, "staff" does not have that much power. Every committee, and obviously Council, can disagree and/or over rule their "recommendations."

[H2O]

Originally Posted by GoldenBoot

Please define a "professional in their field" for us. If I am a lawyer - I'm a "professional" lawyer (i.e., a lawyer by "profession"). If I am an architect, then, by all means, I am a "professional" architect! Hell, and activist could be considered a "professional" activist; a waitress could be considered a "professional" waitress!

Furthermore, not all employees of the City's Planning Office have degrees which would lead you to believe they are qualified to served as planners/"overseers" of urban (or suburban) development. All they do is review the petition to make sure it follows city codes and ordinances.

In fact, "staff" does not have that much power. Every committee, and obviously Council, can disagree and/or over rule their "recommendations."

'Staff', at least the ones writing the recommendations, typically have a Master's Degree in Community and Regional Planning (or similar), are members of the American Planning Association, and many are members of the American Institute of Certified Planners, and therefor, are professional planners.

[The ATX]

The city has replaced their ~quartery Emerging Projects list and map with this:

http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/vi...7.3124,30.6263

It's definitely a work in progress as almost no downtown projects are listed. but there are a lot more projects listed citywide than there were two days ago. So it is being updated.

[Tech House]

Originally Posted by Hill Country

The city has replaced their ~quartery Emerging Projects list and map with this:

http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/vi...7.3124,30.6263

Thanks for posting this. Wow, there's a lot going on east of 35!

I have questions which I hope you can answer. First, do you have a general sense of what is happening in the huge zones of PUD projects around Parmer, 290, and 130? And the other question is in regards to a very large splotch of orange for "multifamily" development east of Webberville. That has me scratching my head. It's so rural out there, no nearby services, no employment opportunities, and very limited transportation and access.