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Old Posted Jan 9, 2019, 2:32 AM
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(since, despite all the airplay he gets on Block Club and Ben Jarvorsky's program, he's done literally nothing since being elected)
Not anymore, they fired his ass
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^ was about to post this. I may have to support Daley at this point.
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a proposed 70% reduction in alder-monsters!

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Yes, yes, yes to all of that!!! ^
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yeah let's end machine politics by electing a Daley!

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yeah let's end machine politics by electing a Daley!

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Not only this, but there is always a tiny little chance ( ) that he's just making empty campaign promises to win. You know, a rarity among politicians.....
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Now your making my head explode haha!
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Not only this, but there is always a tiny little chance ( ) that he's just making empty campaign promises to win. You know, a rarity among politicians.....
As the article states, it isn't even clear how this would be done. State legislature? Referendum? On that note, the state could benefit from an improved citizen-based referendum process. Not necessarily to the extreme used in California, but a better vehicle to enable citizens to enact change directly.
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Anyone watch the mayoral forum? ... I forgot it was tonight.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2019, 10:36 PM
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...108-story.html

More CTU garbage:

"We will bargain hard starting this month for an agreement that provides the resources we need to fund the schools our students deserve — a goal that Preckwinkle has pledged to support and that voters overwhelmingly share.”

CTU, please remember that CPS has lost 10s of 1,000s of students over the last few years. Not an additional dime should be needed to fund education. We already spend far more than many major US cities on a per student basis.

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I don't know how banning family of politicians from conducting business stands up to a constitutional challenge, but the rest of it sounds good.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2019, 2:51 PM
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Preckwinkle says her plan to end the gang database is because it’s largely comprised of black and brown people
.....Just like the vast majority of people who are involved in gang activity in this city.

So Buttwinkle is basically a racist. The only reason she opposes the gang database is because of the color of the people who are on it, and it happens to be the color she wants to protect. If the gang database were made up of 80% white people, her actions suggest that she would have no problem with it.
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I dunno, it's kind of like the no-fly list, an opaque thing that people can get on without their knowledge and it makes their life miserable. I wouldn't be surprised if CPD didn't use the utmost discretion when deciding who is on it...

I agree that a gang list would be a useful tool if it were properly maintained and accurate, or even some sort of probabilistic model (e.g. "the urban politician has a 0.5% chance of being associated with gang activity"), but it could be that it has turned into a tool to harass people.
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I dunno, it's kind of like the no-fly list, an opaque thing that people can get on without their knowledge and it makes their life miserable. I wouldn't be surprised if CPD didn't use the utmost discretion when deciding who is on it...

I agree that a gang list would be a useful tool if it were properly maintained and accurate, or even some sort of probabilistic model (e.g. "the urban politician has a 0.5% chance of being associated with gang activity"), but it could be that it has turned into a tool to harass people.
Right. I'm sure the list has value, but I don't doubt people who have no hard connections to gang activity end up on the list solely because they rubbed an officer or CPD affiliate the wrong way. Many probably end up on it because of suspected or recorded history of criminal activity. It's a knee-jerk reaction to assume Preckwinkle is racist. The real question is why isn't Mob boss Madigan on the list...

On another note, JB was sworn in today. During his address he said he wanted Illinois to be the "fastest growing big state economy in the US". Lets see how this plays out.
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^^^ Rent control and financial services taxes won't get us there...
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'Where will the money come from? Rich people,' Chicago Teachers Union says as it seek

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...115-story.html

“We intend to bargain hard,” Sharkey said. “We intend to bring both our allies and our members into a fight for the schools that our students deserve. We’re going to support a new mayor to the extent they do the right thing by our schools, and we’re going to act independently of them and fight them to the extent they don’t.”

A union spokeswoman said the CTU had not fully tabulated the cost of its demands, but labor group leaders acknowledged its proposals would require a significant amount of additional spending.


These folks are simply nuts. We can hardly pay for the past demands of CTU. But they're getting more money from "rich people".
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2019, 11:57 PM
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^^^ With an average salary of nearly double the median personal income (not even including their obscene benefits package) in Chicago I think CTU members should count as "rich people"...
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^ How do you know this, though?

Preckwinkle stated her reason for opposing the database being that it consists of "black and brown people"

Doesn't sound like somebody who is serious about fighting crime. Sounds more like she wants to impede our ability to investigate gang networks.
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^ How do you know this, though?

Preckwinkle stated her reason for opposing the database being that it consists of "black and brown people"

Doesn't sound like somebody who is serious about fighting crime. Sounds more like she wants to impede our ability to investigate gang networks.
Here's what she actually said, the "black and brown" part of the quote is not attributed to her:

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Preckwinkle says her plan to end the gang database is because it’s largely comprised of black and brown people though there’s “no criteria for how to get on it and many don’t know if they’re on it and there’s no way to get off of it.”

“It’s part of the culpability of the Police Department,” Preckwinkle said. “People don’t know how they got there and it’s used to damage their lives. That’s a real challenge to police-community relations.”
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the problem is you could get on it because police would go around at a shooting scene and take IDs from people just standing there watching. It scooped up neighborhood people.

ICE has been using it as a reason for deportation proceedings
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