The US Census Bureau thread

[mhays]

Why does Rebchook say Stapleton has "homes and apartments"? Is an apartment not a home?

[ChiSoxRox]

Originally Posted by spark317

Great work!!!

I know Arlington VA CDP is over 100,000 and perhaps Metairie LA CDP as well.

Thanks; they've been added. For some reason the Census Bureau didn't put in CDPs in each state's summary.

[Expat]

Originally Posted by mhays

Why does Rebchook say Stapleton has "homes and apartments"? Is an apartment not a home?

Thanks. I thought it was just me. It drives my crazy when people use the word home like that. A home can be a house, trailer, apartment, condo, tent, palace, under a bridge, etc. Saying "homes & apartments" is like saying "fruit & apples". Sorry for the rant. Pet peeve of mine. And sorry for preaching to the choir.

[LMich]

This seems to be the same trend happening, everywhere, but it's particularly a bright spot for Michigan given the population loss.

Asian, Hispanic growth makes Michigan more diverse

JOHN FLESHER | Associated Press

Mar. 25, 2011

TRAVERSE CITY — As Michigan's population shrinks, it's also becoming more racially diverse.

Census data released this week shows that the number of Hispanic and Asian residents in Michigan increased by more than one-third over the past decade, while another category — non-Hispanic, multi-racial — jumped 45 percent.

To be sure, the big rate increases partly reflect how small those racial groups were to begin with. And their gains weren't enough to offset declines among non-Hispanic whites and blacks. Those were steep enough to make Michigan the only state whose overall population dropped between 2000 and 2010, a grim distinction highlighting the extent of its economic misery.

With the results of the 2010 census dealing Michigan one blow after another — from the loss of a U.S. House seat to Detroit's devastating 25 percent population loss — the fact that the state is drawing newcomers from racial and ethnic minorities offers a ray of hope.

...

According to the census, the number of Hispanics in Michigan jumped from 323,894 in 2000 to 436,358 in 2010, an increase of 34.7 percent. Hispanics' share of the state population rose from 3.3 percent to 4.4 percent over the decade.

The number of Asian residents increased 34.9 percent — from 175,311, or 1.8 percent of the population, to 236,490 or 2.4 percent. As with Hispanics, Asians are concentrated primarily in the Detroit metro area, with smaller pockets in and near Grand Rapids.

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[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by Dralcoffin

Illinois
Chicago city, IL: 2,695,598 (-200,418)
Aurora city, IL: 197,899 (+54,909)
Rockford city, IL: 152,871 (+2,756)
Joliet city, IL: 147,433 (+41,212)
Naperville city, IL: 141,853 (+13,495)
Springfield city, IL: 116,250 (+4,796)
Peoria city, IL: 115,007 (+2,071)
Elgin city, IL: 108,188 (+13,701)

if current trends continue, both joliet and naperville will leapfrog rockford by 2020, making the 4 largest municipalities in illinois all in chicagoland. i wonder if there are any other states where the 4 largest municipalities are all in one metro area (not including those tiny east coast states where the whole state IS a metro area).

also, elgin has a shot to leapfrog peoria and springfield.

[brickell]

Not quite the same, but the 3 most populated counties in Florida are in the Miami MSA. I always find that a little surprising given the political parity in the state.

Miami-Dade County, Florida 2,496,435 - Miami MSA
Broward County, Florida 1,748,066 - Miami MSA
Palm Beach County, Florida 1,320,134 - Miami MSA
Hillsborough County, Florida 1,229,226 - Tampa/St. Pete
Orange County, Florida 1,145,956 - Orlando
Pinellas County, Florida 916,542 - Tampa/St. Pete
Duval County, Florida 864,263 - Jacksonville

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

if current trends continue, both joliet and naperville will leapfrog rockford by 2020, making the 4 largest municipalities in illinois all in chicagoland. i wonder if there are any other states where the 4 largest municipalities are all in one metro area (not including those tiny east coast states where the whole state IS a metro area).

also, elgin has a shot to leapfrog peoria and springfield.

Three of the four largest municipalities in Michigan are in Metro Detroit, and only 6 of the 20 largest municipalities in Michigan are not located in Wayne, Oakland or Macomb counties (five if you throw in Washtenaw County).

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by brickell

Not quite the same, but the 3 most populated counties in Florida are in the Miami MSA. I always find that a little surprising given the political parity in the state.

if we're talking counties, illinois is even more lopsided, with the top 6 most populous counties in the state all in chicagland - the 6 core counties of chicago's MSA.

cook county - 5,194,675
dupage county - 916,924
lake county - 703,462
will county - 677,560
kane county - 515,269
mchenry county - 308,760

[themaguffin]

given the scale of size of Chicago the city) it would make sense that suburban counties would be particularly large

[Thundertubs]

New Jersey's largest city (Newark) shares a border with the state's #2 and #4 cities (Jersey City, Elizabeth). #3 (Paterson) is not far up the river. And those are all real cities, not big suburbs. But yes, it's a tiny, compact East Coast state.

[spark317]

Originally Posted by Dralcoffin

Thanks; they've been added. For some reason the Census Bureau didn't put in CDPs in each state's summary.

Oh yeah, Paradise and Sunrise Manor NV CDPs also. And there may be one or two in Florida.

Thanks again for your work!! I used to do this too for many years but just don't have the time at this point in my life.

[spark317]

Virginia's three largest are in the Norfolk metro, and seven of Virginia's top 10 are also in Norfolk. All are contiguous (boundaries meet in the water for a few of them).

[dave8721]

Originally Posted by dave8721

Here are the top 10 largest cities with their 2010 sizes and densities:
City Pop2010 Area Density
New York: 8175133 302.6 27016.30205
Los Angeles: 3792621 468.7 8091.787924
Chicago: 2695598 227.6 11843.57645
Houston: 2099451 599.6 3501.41928
Philadelphia: 1526006 134.1 11379.61223
Phoenix: 1445632 516.7 2797.816915
San Antonio: 1327407 460.9 2880.032545
San Diego: 1307402 325.2 4020.301353
Dallas: 1197816 340.5 3517.814978
San Jose: 945942 176.5 5359.444759

Here are the densest cities (of the top 50 largest US cities):

City Pop2010 Area Density
New York 8,175,133 302.6 27,016.30
San Francisco 805,235 46.9 17,169.19
Boston 617,594 48.3 12,786.63
Chicago 2,695,598 227.6 11,843.58
Philadelphia 1,526,006 134.1 11,379.61
Miami 399,457 35.9 11,126.94
Washington DC 601,723 61 9,864.31
Long Beach 462,257 50.3 9,190.00
Los Angeles 3,792,621 468.7 8,091.79

[JDRCRASH]

Originally Posted by dave8721

Here are the densest cities (of the top 50 largest US cities):

City Pop2010 Area Density
New York 8,175,133 302.6 27,016.30
San Francisco 805,235 46.9 17,169.19
Boston 617,594 48.3 12,786.63
Chicago 2,695,598 227.6 11,843.58
Philadelphia 1,526,006 134.1 11,379.61
Miami 399,457 35.9 11,126.94
Washington DC 601,723 61 9,864.31
Long Beach 462,257 50.3 9,190.00
Los Angeles 3,792,621 468.7 8,091.79

It's a little interesting, because if the list was a few spots longer, Santa Ana would jump to number 5 or 6.

[Ch.G, Ch.G]

^ It's a good list to show people who still think LA isn't dense. It is, in fact, the tenth densest of the fifty largest US cities.

[hudkina]

Los Angeles is one of the densest cities in the nation, particularly if you only include the 60 or so sq. mi. in the core.

[alex1]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

if current trends continue, both joliet and naperville will leapfrog rockford by 2020, making the 4 largest municipalities in illinois all in chicagoland. i wonder if there are any other states where the 4 largest municipalities are all in one metro area (not including those tiny east coast states where the whole state IS a metro area).

also, elgin has a shot to leapfrog peoria and springfield.

might be tough for Naperville to leapfrog Rockford. Naperville is nearly built out at this point.

[pesto]

As we've discussed before, density is partly a matter of where you draw the city limits, how many parks or unbuildable mountains there are, etc. (I hope the ocean and bay areas are removed from the areas of these cities.) But even after that, it seems intuitively pretty accurate.

I guess some eastern and Great Lakes cities have been getting less dense due to people moving out (Chicago, Detroit among others). But the look of density remains with the buildings.

Santa Ana surprises me a bit. Is the density from having no large parks, airports, etc.? I know it is denser than most of the OC but I didn't think it was that much denser. Long Beach has some high-rises and areas of high density, so it's not as surprising.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by alex1

might be tough for Naperville to leapfrog Rockford. Naperville is nearly built out at this point.

is it? i know that when i've taken metra through naperville i can still see a few open plots of land awaiting their new mcmansions, but perhaps that land is part of aurora or something; i'm not all that familiar with where the specific borders of suburban municipalities are.

[ardecila]

^^ Naperville is pretty much landlocked; future growth will be in Aurora (west side), Oswego, and Plainfield.