YEG - Edmonton Int Airport - Page 55

lubicon · #**1081** Posted **Nov 23, 2007, 8:32 PM**

While it sucks to lose the Zoom flight, let's keep things in perspective. What did they fly last summer, 1x weekly??? You are losing 1 weekly flight that ran for probably 3 months at best and have gained a daily year round flight with AC. That's better than the other way around. I also took a quick look at Air Transat's website and they are returning to YEG this summer with 1x weekly flights to both London and Frankfurt.

Edmonchuck · #**1082** Posted **Nov 23, 2007, 8:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jasper and one o nin

I am so fu(*ing sick and tired of this age old, small town, debate. This biggest problem with Edmonton are these small town, small minded, non-forward thinking hicks that keep bringing up their own selfish self interests arguements, and the media that supports them.
It just makes our city look BAD

Look at the names...look very closely....

Strangely, they are affiliated with some very special interest groups, like CAANA, The Kingsway Business Assocaition, Friends of Koziak...ok the last one is not a group per se...

The timing is not accidental. They got together and flooded the letters to the editor simultaneously. Make no mistake. They did. These are the same names with the same schlock they've spewed for years. In reailty, those that came with me in 2003 to that "forum" at the hanger would probably recognize some of the names.

These are not "concerned citizens". These are people with a vested interest in keeping YXD open for personal financial reasons. They have no interest in this city's growth, only their own. CAANA is all about trying to get the small northern airlines a monopoly in Edmonton service.

Pissed off? Then write. If everyone wrote even a 3 line "screw off already" letter, they'd get just as bombarded as they were with the "open it" crew.

2 can play at that game.

Jasper and one o nin · #**1083** Posted **Nov 23, 2007, 9:08 PM**

Okay, if they can organize and flood the journal with letters, so can we.

rapid_business · #**1084** Posted **Nov 23, 2007, 9:13 PM**

/\ Let's do it. Planning for what date?

Noting the 'special interest' groups that wrote in as well might be useful too.

Edmonchuck · #**1085** Posted **Nov 23, 2007, 9:18 PM**

Don't need to note them. THese are groups that, well, are 5 people and a coffee pot with a self-appointed "spokesperson". They are not relevant.

The wrath of concerned citizens is the point.

Queue them up to be sent Sunday afternoon - to all make Monday's paper.

Challenge, to get 30 letters to the journal. If you are ambitious, send them to the sun too...

Pick a point (medivacs, service, time, get the fuck over it, whatever) and keep it short, sweet, and succinct.

LO 044 · #**1086** Posted **Nov 23, 2007, 10:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jasper and one o nin

Okay, if they can organize and flood the journal with letters, so can we.

Perhaps get the letters to the journal by a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Monday's paper is garbage and as a result you won't get as many people reading it.

Cold, you should write a letter with the point that the previous people writing in are connected to Canna or whatever the hell their group is called.

I always wonder can you basically write whatever the hell you want to the Journal/Sun and they'll post it? Do they even check the facts before they post these comments? Maybe a letter about the Journal posting points without facts should be written about as well.

As for Zoom, it's a hit in terms of an airline leaving YEG but i agree with most, LHR is much better to connect from than LGW. If Zoom flew to STN or LTN, then i would be disappointed as the majority of low-cost carriers fly to STN or LTN near London. LGW isn't worth much in my mind anyways. As well, having a scheduled daily flight to LHR is worth much more than a weekly flight to LGW. The only way AC would raise fares on the YEG-LHR run is if they also raise the fares on the YYC-LHR run.

Does anyone really know how Air Transat does on it's LGW and FRA routes in terms of loads/profits? Perhaps they will bump their LGW service to 2 times weekly.

Edmonchuck · #**1087** Posted **Nov 24, 2007, 12:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by LO 044

I always wonder can you basically write whatever the hell you want to the Journal/Sun and they'll post it? Do they even check the facts before they post these comments? Maybe a letter about the Journal posting points without facts should be written about as well.

They don't have to. It is the author's opinion.

tuffyy · #**1088** Posted **Nov 24, 2007, 5:07 AM**

As a fella who moved from Toronto and feels very strongly about YEG (I work there) I will be writing a editorial to the journal in a few days...Lets fire back everyone...The medivac argument in one article really gets me...

Coldrsx · #**1089** Posted **Nov 24, 2007, 5:27 PM**

^the "cant fly direct international" gets me

Jasper and one o nin · #**1090** Posted **Nov 24, 2007, 9:06 PM**

ive written my piece, when can i send it in?

Coldrsx · #**1091** Posted **Nov 24, 2007, 9:37 PM**

now

rapid_business · #**1092** Posted **Nov 25, 2007, 2:07 AM**

I'll pen mine tonight, tomorrow or Monday.

tuffyy · #**1093** Posted **Nov 26, 2007, 3:35 AM**

After reading all of the letter's to the editor regarding YXD, I must say I have not read so many ridiculous if not uneducated statements by people who represent a group.One would think you would have your facts in place before firing off letter's...

I will be sending my letter off tuesday for a midweek publication.

Edmonchuck · #**1094** Posted **Nov 27, 2007, 1:35 AM**

I have penned 4 letters...now to choose, or send all...

You just can't say it all in 300 words, and eff off already you greedy, selfish, short-sighted bastards won't get printed.

tuffyy · #**1095** Posted **Nov 27, 2007, 1:43 AM**

There wont be any f-off in my letter, just some common sense and the truth...

Coldrsx · #**1096** Posted **Nov 27, 2007, 3:25 AM**

good to hear guys...when misinformation comes out, people need to correct or clarify.

Edmonchuck · #**1097** Posted **Nov 27, 2007, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by tuffyy

There wont be any f-off in my letter, just some common sense and the truth...

Been there

done that

bought the t-shirt

distributed the flyers

ended up 77% YES.

....debate ensues....since 1955

The facts are out there. This is a dead horse. When do you finally say enough already...or....eff off...?

newfangled · #**1098** Posted **Nov 27, 2007, 6:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Edmonchuck

The facts are out there. This is a dead horse. When do you finally say enough already...or....eff off...?

It is a dead horse though, isn't it? The terminal facilities no longer exist, and there will never be any capital to replace them. What exactly do the muni-lovers hope to get out of this?

Are they being defensive to make it harder to take runway 30 away and get the height restrictions lifted? Is this continuing debate actually going somewhere?

Edmonchuck · #**1099** Posted **Nov 27, 2007, 7:07 PM**

It comes down to this..

Don and company who have a vested financial interest in air service keep this up to ensure that their last vestages of revenue don't die. Then, they look to expand it to a level that gets them a "monopoly" on said service.

CAANA wants to keep the smaller airlines in GP, PR, FtMac, etc alive. These puddle jumpers cannot compete with the mainlines on service, comfort, etc, so they look to "convenience". YXD is seen as "convenient" - no security, no hassles, no termial issues, etc.

With the removal of runway 12/30, YXD's total "potential" capacity is reduced in case of crosswinds. Now, over 30 years, it has been 4 hours overall that 12/30's removal would prevent aircraft from landing at YXD, but it is the potential again that they harp on.

Then there is that nagging "potential" that they would be able to get YXD back to the Muni of 1979. Removing 12/30 does not mean that could NEVER happen, but it means the chances go from plausible to...well...forgetbaoutit.

The terminal could be rebuilt....or so they think.

This is the continued harping because people believe that as long as the facility exists as is, there is still a "chance".

The really sad part, a redeveloped area would bring so much more revenue to them it hurts.

newfangled · #**1100** Posted **Nov 27, 2007, 7:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Edmonchuck

Then there is that nagging "potential" that they would be able to get YXD back to the Muni of 1979. Removing 12/30 does not mean that could NEVER happen, but it means the chances go from plausible to...well...forgetbaoutit.

The terminal could be rebuilt....or so they think..

That's the part that I don't understand. Removing 12/30 will be the nail in the coffin, but removing all the passenger facilities wasn't?

Seriously folks - you haven't been a real airport since your baggage handling facilities were convereted to a high school.