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Is there still a height limit in Ottawa, or can you build as tall as you want if you're far enough away from the parliament buildings?
Outside of the view cones, I think you can build as tall as zoning will allow.
     
     
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Does anyone know if they actually transport crude or refined oil products on those tankers? I know the facility there is primarily for the lubricants division of Petro-Canada, but I don't know what the inputs for that process are.

Even given the minuscule chance of damage or sinking on the Great Lakes nowadays, I find it surprising they would be allowed to carry such cargo, given that it would likely be the end of Lake Ontario as we know it if a disaster did happen.
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As far as I know the refineries closed down several years ago. What you see there is a ship carrying material for the cement factory.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/CRH+Ca...7c33be962!8m2!3d43.4920006!4d-79.6211828


It was going to cost too much for Suncore at the time to retrofit the refinery to meet stricter environmental protocols so they just shut it down. I think Petro Can took it back over but it's scale of operations is minuscule to what it used to be. If you scroll over on the map you can see the PetroCan site and how it's mostly derelict now and where many of the tanks have been removed. So no, I don't think oil is transported to any location along the GTA shoreline. I'm not sure about the rest of the lake though.
     
     
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I can't think of any refinery on the Canadian side of Lake Ontario. The closest big one would be in the Montreal area while Canada's biggest is in Saint John, New Brunswick.
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The closest would be Sarnia I imagine.

I know the refineries aren't active, it's primarily research and production of lubricants. I just wasn't if whatever goes into making those comes through the marine terminal at all. It still looks somewhat well-maintained on google maps.
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I worked for a while up near Finch and Keele. I always found it peculiar to have the Toronto fuel supply from the major companies as next door neighbours.
     
     
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A proper city has a major park in or near the centre that helps to define the life and culture of the city, as in Mont Royal in the photo above. Other examples that come to mind are Hyde Park, Central Park, Casa de Campo, Champ de Mars, Bosque de Chapultepec, Villa Borghese, etc.

Toronto is not a proper city. Neither is Philadelphia. Or Phoenix. Or Taipei.
     
     
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As far as I know the refineries closed down several years ago. What you see there is a ship carrying material for the cement factory.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/CRH+Ca...7c33be962!8m2!3d43.4920006!4d-79.6211828
That's the wrong pier. In the photo it's the one connected to the tank farm between Burloak Drive and Bronte Creek (note the supports under it in the pic, plus the orientation of the ship is wrong for the west-Sauga cement plant pier):
https://goo.gl/maps/PRRbTmkRUQ7f5rD19
Streetview: https://goo.gl/maps/k1Tb5YPh5NXRzqU47


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I know the refineries aren't active, it's primarily research and production of lubricants. I just wasn't if whatever goes into making those comes through the marine terminal at all. It still looks somewhat well-maintained on google maps.
There were two production sites along the north shore of the lake, in Oakville and Mississauga. The refinery in Bronte closed (sold and shipped to India, I believe?) but the site remains as a tank farm for Petro-Canada. The Petro-Canada site in Clarkson does the lubricants and is still active; this is its pier:
https://goo.gl/maps/Y244hY71WrXV5Y7R7
Streetview: https://goo.gl/maps/SUgYaYUeUSvP13is6 (the cement plant pier is visible if you pan right)

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A proper city has a major park in or near the centre that helps to define the life and culture of the city, as in Mont Royal in the photo above. Other examples that come to mind are Hyde Park, Central Park, Casa de Campo, Champ de Mars, Bosque de Chapultepec, Villa Borghese, etc...
Boston Common / Public Gardens combo is a good one. The Common is North America's, and possibly the world's, first public urban park.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Common

Based on pictures and experience Montreal is still my favorite urban center in Canada. It also reminds me the most of my own city so I'm kind of partial to that older world density.
     
     
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That first shot is a great shot of downtown Vancouver. Despite Southeast False Creek not having anything all that tall, it still makes its presence felt, and it makes Vancouver look even bigger as its boundaries push past False Creek.
     
     
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Boston Common / Public Gardens combo is a good one. The Common is North America's, and possibly the world's, first public urban park.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Common
Maybe the first in North America but Reagent's Park in London was officially created in 1811 as one of the first purpose built parks for the public. There are probably dozens of other examples throughout Europe and even Asia that pre-date that. Boston Commons is great though.

As for not being a real city unless you have a park in the middle of it I disagree, I also never consider Mt Royal to be in the centre on Montreal, it feels more like a backdrop or a buffer. Maybe one Day Toronto will get it's Rail Deck Park which will be something like millennium park in Chicago.
     
     
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Maybe the first in North America but Reagent's Park in London was officially created in 1811 as one of the first purpose built parks for the public. There are probably dozens of other examples throughout Europe and even Asia that pre-date that. Boston Commons is great though.

As for not being a real city unless you have a park in the middle of it I disagree, I also never consider Mt Royal to be in the centre on Montreal, it feels more like a backdrop or a buffer. Maybe one Day Toronto will get it's Rail Deck Park which will be something like millennium park in Chicago.
Say what ??? The Peel street entrance to Mont-Royal Park is literally 300 meters away from the corner of Sherbrooke and Peel street. Don't be ridiculous.

     
     
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