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Old Posted Sep 19, 2007, 8:44 PM
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...also found out today the new Starbucks at East Point should be ready in February.



A first for Atlantic Canada, not just NB.


Not surprising, I mean come on, We all know SJ is where its @ now
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Old Posted Sep 19, 2007, 8:45 PM
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...also found out today the new Starbucks at East Point should be ready in February.



A first for Atlantic Canada, not just NB.


As well, The Starbucks is sposed to be open just before christmas, Well, thats what the paper has been saying....
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A housing development in Millidgeville





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Old Posted Sep 19, 2007, 9:09 PM
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I wonder if they are going to take the vacant store thats already there.

and I wonder how long till we see phase two take place hopefully over the winter.

If Indigo takes that location then then they would have no choice but to start up the next building or groups of buildings once they secure more tenants.

I am really looking forward to see the whole complex next spring. Starbucks, Hampton Inn finished ,and maybe some more stores and parking lots finished.
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A first for Atlantic Canada, not just NB.
There is a Indigo in Charlottetown, the SJ setup store will likely be a new one though

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/home/store...=Prince+Edward+Island&city=Charlottetown
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Old Posted Sep 19, 2007, 9:21 PM
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I wonder if they are going to take the vacant store thats already there.

and I wonder how long till we see phase two take place hopefully over the winter.

If Indigo takes that location then then they would have no choice but to start up the next building or groups of buildings once they secure more tenants.

I am really looking forward to see the whole complex next spring. Starbucks, Hampton Inn finished ,and maybe some more stores and parking lots finished.
You're looking forward to that mess? I'm looking forward to it burning down...



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Old Posted Sep 19, 2007, 9:39 PM
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I share your same demise for suburban and commercial sprawl, but I'd rather have it then not have it.

I would have like to see them fix up market square do the expansion and clean up brunswick square and put in these store but we all know that will never happen.

They have so much potential but so much would have to be done to get them to a marketable level.
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I understand that sentiment with regards to the way it was developed, taking more cash away from uptown for ugly boxes...but on the other hand, I'd rather spend my money here than Moncton. It's no longer about competing with other regions of the city, it's about attracting shoppers to our city.

Fact is, this is the latest shopping fad, and we can ignore it and loose or go with the flow.
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Oh definitely, if it means fewer people go to Moncton or the USA to shop, and spend money here, that's great (although one could argue that it doesn't qualify as local shopping when all the stores' profits leave the province or country).

My argument is more broadly societal. I just don't understand why we are in this trend of box stores and power centres. With all the talk about sustainable development these days, how can we justify one of the least sustainable models of development I've ever seen? They are not human-centric, they promote the use of short-trip driving dynamics, they involve clearing large swaths of natural habitat and replacing them with introduced & resource intensive plant species, and the list goes on and on.

I realize it is the trend, and I suppose I am glad that for once that Saint John is actually moving with the times, not letting them pass us by or catching up 10 years later, but I am troubled by several of the directions society is taking if this sort of thing is to become the norm.
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I understand the big box sentiment, as ugly as it is. I have no love for shopping, so when I have to do it I want it done with a minimum of inconvenience and duration. I absolutely hate having to hunt down an item by going to a multitude of small shops hoping they have what I'm looking for. If I can drive to Home Depot and buy everything and then go home, I far prefer that than wasting a day driving to 5 scattered stores and then possibly needing to order something online when I get home.

I think the key to downtown is quality specialty stores. If I know that there is a store downtown that will carry what I'm looking for, I'll go there. Also, specialty shops which cater to the products that either tourists or downtown workers will purchase are key. I've often thought for example that a high-end Golf speciality shop in Brunswick Square would do well. You get all the downtown workers during the business week, plus a golfer living in Rothesay would drive downtown to a great golf shop. But a reader in Rothesay isn't going to drive downtown just to go the Coles in Brunswick Square. Which is another way of saying, it's a shame Starbucks/Indigo aren't going to be downtown.
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Indigo is coming
Development New bookstore described as 'Chapters on steroids'

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Published Thursday September 20th, 2007
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SAINT JOHN - "It's like Chapters on steroids."


That was Troy Northrup's best description of the newest retailer to announce it is setting up shop at East Point Shopping on the city's East Side.

Indigo Books & Music Inc. announced Wednesday it will open an 18,000-square-foot store on Fashion Drive, adjacent to the soon-to-be completed Hampton Inn.

Construction will begin immediately and the target date for opening is late next spring.

Indigo, Canada's largest book retailer, operates more than 240 stores from coast to coast under the names Indigo, Chapters, The World's Biggest Bookstore and Coles.

Northrup, the developer of the East Point site, was beaming during the noon-hour media conference as he introduced politicians from all three levels of government and representatives from Indigo's Toronto head office.

The size of the Indigo store will be a bit bigger than a standard National Hockey League ice surface, but company spokesman Drew McGowen said the interior won't look anything like a stereotypical big-box store.

"The design is much more vibrant, it's no longer just a regular big-box store," said McGowen, Indigo's vice-president of real estate. "It's not a cavernous open bookstore. There's a children's section, a place where children and their parents can go where they can sit on a carpeted floor and in other stores it's proven to be a place where little children want to go and be with the books. There's a section for teens where they can go off on their own and look at books that interest them, there's a business section and others. This is a huge departure from traditional wide-open stores. I think when you see it you'll be blown away."

The campaign to lure Indigo/Chapters to Saint John has been ongoing for a number of years and McGowen said the time is right because the Port City is on the cusp of major developments in the energy sector.

"Three years ago, the economy wasn't what it is today in Saint John and what's ahead is exciting," he said. "Then you have to find the right location and what we have here at East Point is a great location."

McGowen said the Saint John store will be one of only two in Canada with this particular design and decor.

"(Saint John customers) will see the most vibrant store that they've ever seen. Because there is no other of its kind - besides our other store in Montreal - but even this one is being tweaked a little bit. It's a bookstore where each of the sections is like its own little boutique.

"Our research shows that our customers spend an average of 90 minutes in our store, while they might spend just 15 minutes in a Coles bookstore. We want to make that visit comfortable and appealing."

Both McGowen and Northrup said the intense lobbying efforts of Mayor Norm McFarlane helped draw the retailer to town.

"(McFarlane) personally has played a key role in making this announcement today a reality," said Northrup.

"The mayor pretty much was the catalyst for Indigo to dig a little deeper into this market and take a good look at it. I can tell you, there is no mayor more proactive than (McFarlane)," said McGowen.

"The economy is strong, there are lots of reasons for bringing business to Saint John. And that's why we're here today."

The mayor praised Northrup for his vision and business sense and encouraged him to keep working hard to attract more quality tenants to the East Point site.

"It seems like we are here every other week for exciting announcements to grow the retail sector of our community," said McFarlane, who also spoke at a media conference two weeks ago that announced a stand-alone Starbucks location would open at East Point. "I would come here every day or every week if I could. So Troy, keep them coming."

With hints from the developer that at least one more major announcement is forthcoming in the very near future, McFarlane envisions the Port City's becoming a shopping mecca.

"The new retailers we are attracting to the city will play a key role in making Saint John the community of choice in Atlantic Canada," said the mayor. "This is a very exciting day for me for a number of reasons.

"The first reason is because if there was one retailer that I've received calls about every week from citizens since becoming mayor, it was for a Chapters, and now we're even receiving a step above with Indigo.

"The second reason is because I've had an opportunity to be directly involved in the pitch for Indigo with Troy and his team. I truly believe that we have the opportunity to become the retail shopping destination in Atlantic Canada."

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Chrysler dealership to get new, bigger home
Automobiles Two-story structure to be built next door, with construction

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Published Thursday September 20th, 2007
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SAINT JOHN - It's the end of an era for The Hideaway and the beginning of a new one for Dobson Chrysler.
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The long-time landmark nightclub on Rothesay Avenue has closed and will be torn down within weeks to make way for a new car dealership, said Danny Dobson, president of the Chrysler dealership.

"We're all very excited," he said.

The current dealership, located next door, was built in the late 1950s, so it is old and outdated, explained Dobson, operator of the business since 1989.

And business has outgrown the existing 15,000 square feet, particularly now that it is the only Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep dealership servicing the Greater Saint John area, he said.

Competition also played a part in the decision to build new instead of renovating, said Dobson. Several other local dealerships have opened shiny new showrooms in recent years, so "we need to keep up to pace," he said.

Construction on the new, two-storey dealership is slated to start this fall and be complete by early June.

It will be nearly double the size at 26,000 square feet, with a showroom big enough for up to 10 cars, instead of the current four, complete with high ceilings and feature lighting to give it a "mini auto show" feel and display the vehicles at their best.

The number of service stalls will also increase to 16 from 10 and there will be a new drive-through service, which will be accessible from Rothesay Avenue, Spencer Street and McLean Street, for added customer convenience, said Dobson.

The second storey will be used for offices and a parts/accessories display.

Local architect Robert Boyce is designing the building. An artist's rendition won't be ready until later this month, but it will be similar to other Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep dealerships across Canada, said Dobson. It will conform to the branding image, which includes an arch entrance as the focal point and lots of big windows.

"We want it to be an inviting, warm atmosphere," he said.

Other features will include two lounges - one for service customers and another for car shoppers - as well as landscaping.

Dobson expects to hire five to 10 more full-time staff once the new facility is up and running. He currently employs 45 people full-time.

Plans for the old dealership, located at 276 Rothesay Ave., have not yet been finalized, said Dobson. "It could come down or be turned into something else.

"All options are open," but it will probably be rented out to another business, he said.

The Dobson group purchased The Hideaway property, located at 312 Rothesay Ave., effective at the end of August, when the nightclub closed its doors after more than three decades.

Bubba's Pub & Steakhouse has since moved to 69 Russell St. and changed its name to The Drake Steakhouse.

Debly Enterprises started demolition of the old sprawling nightclub this week.

Dobson Chrysler recently purchased the other local Chrysler dealership, Saint John Chrysler.
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Saint John needs more Leinster Court projects

Published Thursday September 20th, 2007
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Anyone concerned about the need for new low-income housing in Saint John should take the time to visit Leinster Court, in the city's historic South End. The 52-unit, mixed income apartment building is a model of what good planning can accomplish.
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Twenty-six of Leinster Court's apartments rent for $895; the other half are rented for 30 per cent of their tenants' personal income. Three factors make Leinster Court stand out from other subsidized housing.

It's an in-fill development, meaning it was built on a former parking lot in a residential area. In-fill construction will allow the city to expand its stock of subsidized apartments without expanding low-income neighbourhoods.

Leinster Court is also a mixed-income project, meaning that those on low incomes live in the same building as residents with higher incomes. This ensures that those in need of housing subsidies aren't socially isolated.

Finally, Leinster Court sets a new standard of architectural beauty and quality accommodations. It not only fits into the neighbourhood, it strengthens it.

Building new housing units on the Leinster Court model, the city of Saint John can reclaim its waste lots and renew the city core. It may even be able to break the generational cycle of poverty created by ghettoizing the poor.

Councillor Stephen Chase would like to see 100 units built in the next five years. Why not build 500? The need is there - and so are the benefits.



I agree with this article that project is my favorite in the city.
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I find out some interesting "Save UNBSJ rally/protest" pics. Uptown SJ is a beauty !

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I find out some interesting "Save UNBSJ rally/protest" pics. Uptown SJ is a beauty !

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Thanks for sharing Halifax. I was in Fredericton Wednesday night at UNB and I grabbed the university newspaper. I found it interesting to note that originally, planners at UNB Fredericton had planned on 2 bus loads of protestors making the trip to Saint John for the event on Monday however, as it turned out, there was no interest and the bus trips were cancelled. Not exactly sure what this means but I suspect there is a message in there somewhere.
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Thanks for sharing Halifax. I was in Fredericton Wednesday night at UNB and I grabbed the university newspaper. I found it interesting to note that originally, planners at UNB Fredericton had planned on 2 bus loads of protestors making the trip to Saint John for the event on Monday however, as it turned out, there was no interest and the bus trips were cancelled. Not exactly sure what this means but I suspect there is a message in there somewhere.
It means nothing.... I go to both UNBF and UNBSJ, so i get emails from both schools. I got an email from UNBF at 1130 saying buses were leaving at 12 for SJ
They were cancelled because the emails were sent out too late.
Simple as that. So i guess theres no message afterall.
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Does a thread need to be reset when it reaches 1000 posts? Because if so, we're approaching a major milestone any day now!

Bring on the Saint John project thread version 2.0!
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Does a thread need to be reset when it reaches 1000 posts? Because if so, we're approaching a major milestone any day now!

Bring on the Saint John project thread version 2.0!
I think its 2000 posts before its reset.
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We will soon see lol
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