1040-1080 Barclay Street | 174.5m & 173m | 60Fl & 57Fl | Proposed

[Klazu]

I would personally still avoid a building like this, as I am sure parts of parking, bike lockers and storage facilities must be shared or at least bocated very nearby with maybe only one gate between the two. It is so common to have insider burglary even in a regular strata building.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Klazu

I would personally still avoid a building like this, as I am sure parts of parking, bike lockers and storage facilities must be shared or at least bocated very nearby with maybe only one gate between the two. It is so common to have insider burglary even in a regular strata building.

Once again, an offensive and completely unjustified comment. Or can you actually show that your personal bias against people living in social housing is based in fact, rather than prejudice and ignorance? (And ignoring the fact that it's been explained many times that 'social housing' doesn't mean 'welfare rate drug dependent former homeless', or whatever your nightmare tenants might be.)

[WALKIEBRO]

How does that work with building maintenance with some social housing?

[idunno]

Vancouver's definition of social housing is actually that 30% of the units are at HILs (Housing Income Limits) rates or lower. HILs household income requirements for Vancouver are $57,500 for a one bed, $69,000 for a 2 bed, $80,000 for a 3 bed. These are largely not your 'burglar' tenants.'

The remaining 70% of the units are rented out closer to market rate, but become more affordable over time as rents don't increase much.

This is a different setup from some of the provincially-constructed social housing sites around the city, or the temporary modular housing sites, AFAIK, which may specifically charge near shelter rates.

[jollyburger]

Here's the document outlining the social housing requirements:

https://council.vancouver.ca/20201124/documents/r5.pdf

Just one sample for CHMC discounted rental rates

Studio $1065/month ($42K/income) below market rate would be $666 ($26K/income)

Not sure which formula they ended up selecting.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Here's the document outlining the social housing requirements:

https://council.vancouver.ca/20201124/documents/r5.pdf

Just one sample for CHMC discounted rental rates

Studio $1065/month ($42K/income) below market rate would be $666 ($26K/income)

Not sure which formula they ended up selecting.

From Page 3, Figure #5? Or another paragraph?

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

From Page 3, Figure #5? Or another paragraph?

Figure #5

[GenWhy?]

I read that as the 20% below-market rental portion, not the social housing that is tied with the strata component (CAC monies). I think rents in the social housing could be lower, if I'm understanding the Report.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

I read that as the 20% below-market rental portion, not the social housing that is tied with the strata component (CAC monies). I think rents in the social housing could be lower, if I'm understanding the Report.

I thought it said they were dumping social housing in exchange for more rental and affordable housing.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I thought it said they were dumping social housing in exchange for more rental and affordable housing.

There are two towers that will be proposed. One has strata units, and has the required social housing. The other (that was originally also strata and social housing) is now going to be rental with a proportion of the rental at lower-than-market rents. The total social housing (99 units) is less than the previous scheme included.

[Repthe250]

Originally Posted by Klazu

There is nothing little about this area as all towers are now massive! Those that bought on the upper floors of Butterfly and the Nelson project must be pissed by the extra height blocking their multi-million dollar views.

One of the towers has social housing and residential strata in the same building. Must be separate entrances as otherwise that makes no sense?

I do love the red color. We need more colour all around Metro Vancouver.

I agree! More reds, more golds. Too much grey. Especially bare concrete grey - and clear untinted glass. It’s grey enough here.

[Feathered Friend]

We would like your feedback on a rezoning application at 1040-1080 Barclay St. The proposal is to allow for the development two residential towers (54 storeys and 50 storeys) over ten levels of underground parking. The zoning would change from RM-5A (Multi-Dwelling) District to CD-1 (Comprehensive Development) District. This proposal includes:

• 506 secured market rental units and 130 below market units (East tower)
• 365 market strata-titled units and 99 social housing units (West tower)
• retail space at grade in both towers
• 37 space childcare facility on level eight of West tower
• A floor area of 87,922 sq. m (946,391 sq. ft.)
• An overall floor space ratio (FSR) of 21.87
• A building height of 174.5 m (572 ft.) (East tower) and 173m (567 ft.) (West tower)
• 832 vehicle parking spaces and 2,256 bicycle parking spaces

Application Received
March 23 2022
Virtual Open House
May 16 → June 05 2022

The application is now out, and slightly taller than reported earlier.

[GenWhy?]

One of the best lane treatments I've seen in a while. Level 1 floorplan and the landscape drawings look great.

[Repthe250]

I love these so much. They remind me of the Woodwards building, but there’s two of them. And taller!

[Denscity]

10 levels of underground parking!
Is that the most in any Vancouver tower?

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by Denscity

10 levels of underground parking!
Is that the most in any Vancouver tower?

Concerns with underground lots is I think they're actually a little unsafe once you get past the first level or two. In my office, you get zero cell reception once you hit P3. Can't imagine how it would be should anything be happening down in P9 or P10. I don't think any developers have ever gone this deep, and doubtful they'd have any foresight to install cell repeaters or emergency contact buttons like that down there.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Denscity

10 levels of underground parking!
Is that the most in any Vancouver tower?

The two tower's parkades are not connected so it creates a rather inefficient design. The amount of "stuff" that goes into a parkade make the actually car stalls only about 8/10 of those levels, what looks like 30 stalls per floor in the rental building, so 506 rentals with on 50% getting a stall is pretty decent*. (*napkin math)

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

The two tower's parkades are not connected so it creates a rather inefficient design. The amount of "stuff" that goes into a parkade make the actually car stalls only about 8/10 of those levels, what looks like 30 stalls per floor in the rental building, so 506 rentals with on 50% getting a stall is pretty decent*. (*napkin math)

Yeah there's a ton of storage/bicycle parking on all the levels.

6 elevators for the rental and 4 for the strata (and 2 for the social housing/podium?)

[officedweller]

Copied from General thread:

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/1040-1080-barclay-st

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2023/0...uplex-culture/

Is it me not reading the plans properly, or does level P10 (!) of the West Rental Tower not have elevator access to the storage rooms and bike rooms?
i.e. you have to walk down the ramp around the whole floor to get to your bike or storage room?

P10

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/26491/w...ocuments/77772

P9

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/26491/w...ocuments/77772

[madog222]

That's what it looks like. The elevator from P9 is dedicated for bikes.