New subdivision developments

[rocketphish]

Arcadia Stage 6 (Minto Communities Inc.)

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0127/details

[J.OT13]

It's pretty rich how they approve buildings 3+ times the zoning height within 500 or so meters from the Confederation Line in established areas and traditional main streets near downtown in quickly densifying areas with no new greenspace or community services, or we justify 25+ floors on Carling with no commercial anywhere near because we might build a streetcar this century, yet in Kanata where it's just greenfields, we approve townhomes directly on an O-Train station that will likely be built within the decade.

[rocketphish]

Phoenix Homes is proposing one hundred eighty-eight (188) units for the property currently known as civic addresses 2740 Cedarview Road; and 4190, 4200, 4210 and 4236 Fallowfield Road in Barrhaven. The development will consist of six (6) “Apartment Buildings” (Apartment Dwelling, Low Rise) containing a total of 108 units with underground parking and an elevator, three (3) “Back-to-Back Terrace Homes” (Stacked Dwelling) containing a total of 48 units with separate entrances and surface parking, two (2) “Terrace Flats” (Stacked Dwelling) containing a total of 24 units, and one (1) “Terrace Homes” (Stacked Dwelling) containing a total of 8 units. All units will be accessed from walkways and a private street that bisects the site from east to west. The private street will have two accesses – one off Fallowfield Road and one off Cedarview Road.

The revised site plan layout features two spacious communal amenity spaces – one 2,608 m2 space that abuts the school park and the existing residential units to the west and the other 245 m2 space in between Buildings 7 and 8. Each unit will also have access to individual private amenity space in the form of balconies.

Architect: M. David Blakely Architect Inc.


Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...8-0117/details

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[J.OT13]

Ottawa version of Le Plateau. Not the most soul crushing, but not great.

[originalmuffins]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Caivan has updated their plans for "The Conservancy".

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...B9BCB8/details

Very interesting to see two TOD lands owned by the city. Maybe they are planning to build a new bus station complex beside that area? There are still lots more open lands near there which includes another hotel and more office buildings. I wouldn't be surprised, if anyone knows, that would be interesting news.

[rocketphish]

Caivan's The Conservancy has grown westward to include lands right up to Hwy 416.

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0036/details

[J.OT13]

No commercial of course. Small strip malls at each end would have been nice. Hoping the City TOD will have commercial, but I'm predicting towers in a parking lot with maybe a Starbucks.

[DEWLine]

Staircases.

What is with the allergy to accessibility?

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Caivan's The Conservancy has grown westward to include lands right up to Hwy 416.

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0036/details

Referring to the residential units as 'product' doesn't help this project. Front drive product, rear lane product etc.

[kwoldtimer]

A rare bit of honesty.

[lrt's friend]

15 minute neighbourhood? Probably not.

Everything is moving towards multi-storey but is this age in home friendly? Planners, builders and buyers are not thinking of this. We need more single storey dwellings.

If we want density, it needs to be big enough to support elevators.

A friend once lived in 2 1/2 storey house with steps between every room. Great when you are young, but a disability will make that an impossible dwelling.

A friend of mine is currently and suddenly facing a serious disability and a two storey house. It is a scary situation.

[OTSkyline]

The fact that we're not building multi-use neighbourhoods (i.e residential, commercial, etc) compiled with these annoying zig-zag, dead-end and non-linear streetgrids makes it that much harder to have 15-minute neighbourhoods or for residents to walk or grab anything in a short distance.

Another example of City saying something but their actions not lining up.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

The fact that we're not building multi-use neighbourhoods (i.e residential, commercial, etc) compiled with these annoying zig-zag, dead-end and non-linear streetgrids makes it that much harder to have 15-minute neighbourhoods or for residents to walk or grab anything in a short distance.

Another example of City saying something but their actions not lining up.

This is an application to the city, not a plan by the city. The unfortunate reality is the city has little ability to force developers to build multi-use neighbourhoods. They can permit it and even encourage it, but not require it.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

15 minute neighbourhood? Probably not.

Everything is moving towards multi-storey but is this age in home friendly? Planners, builders and buyers are not thinking of this. We need more single storey dwellings.

If we want density, it needs to be big enough to support elevators.

A friend once lived in 2 1/2 storey house with steps between every room. Great when you are young, but a disability will make that an impossible dwelling.

A friend of mine is currently and suddenly facing a serious disability and a two storey house. It is a scary situation.

That's a good point. More than just age of permanent disability. If you happen to be in crutches for just a few weeks, it could make your day to day so much more difficult for that time period.

Originally Posted by roger1818

This is an application to the city, not a plan by the city. The unfortunate reality is the city has little ability to force developers to build multi-use neighbourhoods. They can permit it and even encourage it, but not require it.

City will rubber stamp it with little to no debate, even if the proposal was all SFHs.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Proof Sheet

Referring to the residential units as 'product' doesn't help this project. Front drive product, rear lane product etc.

I take this as code for "we haven't quite figured out exactly what kind of home we're building on those lots yet."

[Williamoforange]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

I take this as code for "we haven't quite figured out exactly what kind of home we're building on those lots yet."

For the most part they truly do mean product, with todays building code, labour costs, and other overhead. Caivan has gone towards "mass producing" there homes in set product form. To me I say this is incredibly forward looking and nice too see, as it should result in better quality controls.

So a "townhome product" is them saying that they will modify the site to match the requirement so that they can build a structure that is already designed, put through Code review, and has a supply chain for its parts laid out.

Parts that includes its walls, floors, roof joists, and etc built at its manufacturing plant in Ottawa.

https://www.abicbuilds.com/

https://caivan.com/

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

City will rubber stamp it with little to no debate, even if the proposal was all SFHs.

I guess it all depends on the councillor. From my experience Glen Gower, for example, seems to resist poorly designed developments, but others may not care so much. Even then, there is only so much they can do to have a development modified if it meets zone requirements. Only when the developer is looking for an exception to the zone requirements does the city have any power.

[rocketphish]

ClubLink wins appeal in hopes of developing over Kanata golf course
City of Ottawa had won lower court decision that centres on 1981 agreement

CBC News
Posted: Nov 26, 2021 12:29 PM ET | Last Updated: 21 minutes ago

ClubLink has won its appeal of an Ontario Superior Court decision that the Kanata Golf and Country Club must remain open space.

The appeal, originally filed in March to the Court of Appeal for Ontario, came two weeks after a lower court sided with the City of Ottawa following a two-year battle to prevent the property owner, ClubLink, from turning the golf course into a development, alongside its partners Minto Communities and Richcraft Homes.

At the heart of the case are the facts of a 1981 agreement — which has been updated several times, including when ClubLink bought the property 23 years ago — between the former City of Kanata and the operator at the time.

That agreement called for 40 per cent of the area in Kanata Lakes to be protected as open space in perpetuity. It also laid out guidelines about land use and ownership if the original owner of the golf course decided to get out of the business.

The appeal court's Friday decision said the Ontario Superior Court decision wrongly interpreted parts of that 1981 agreement.

Mayor Jim Watson tweeted Friday he will ask provincial Minister of Municipal Affairs Steve Clark to intervene as he did in a similar situation in Oakville.

Watson also said the city solicitor told him he would seek approval to appeal the case to the Supreme Court of Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...urse-1.6263811

[rocketphish]

Ontario's top court scraps legacy agreement protecting Kanata golf course from bulldozers

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Nov 26, 2021 • 1 hour ago • 3 minute read

The Ontario Court of Appeal has struck down a legacy agreement that has protected the Kanata Golf and Country Club from bulldozers, giving owner ClubLink a win in its quest to build 1,000 new homes on the golf course land.

Mayor Jim Watson announced that the city will ask the Supreme Court to hear an appeal of the decision released on Friday. He’s also asking the Ontario Progressive Conservative government to protect the golf course months before a provincial election.

“It is heartbreaking,” Kanata North Coun. Cathy Curry said. “The community needs to know it’s not over. It doesn’t end here.”

The so-called 40 per cent agreement struck by the old city of Kanata and the landowner at the time, Campeau Corp., in 1981 laid out a commitment to include the golf course lands in protecting natural space during development. The deal allowed the city to take over the land for recreational activities if the owner no longer wants to run a golf course.

The City of Ottawa assumes any agreements made by pre-amalgamation municipalities.

The old agreement hasn’t stopped ClubLink from pursuing a complete transformation of the golf course lands.

The company has partnered with Minto Communities and Richcraft Homes on a plan to turn the golf course at 7000 Campeau Dr. into an infill subdivision. The latest filing for its development application at city hall indicates ClubLink wants to build 1,480 new homes, which is a reduction from a previously planned 1,544 homes.

Of the 70.89 hectares of development area, 33.16 hectares of land would be cut up for new homes, 23.14 hectares would be open space (including parks and stormwater ponds) and 14.59 hectares would be needed for the infill community’s roads.

Of the 1,480 new units, 654 of them would be detached homes and 437 would be in buildings between four and six storeys in height. The remainder of the units would be in different configurations of townhouses.

The court battle has centred on the interpretation of the agreement and whether it was legally in force today. The city won a decision by the lower court earlier this year that upheld the 40 per cent agreement. ClubLink appealed.

“The owners have operated the golf course for more than 21 years. Neither the City’s right to a conveyance nor ClubLink’s right to a reconveyance have vested within the perpetuity period. As a result, these contingent interests in the golf course lands are now void,” Justice Lois Roberts wrote on behalf of the three-judge panel.

In a statement, Watson said he’s “greatly disappointed” by the court decision.

“I am heartened to hear that, in light of the importance of this issue to the City, the City Solicitor has advised that he will be seeking leave to appeal the decision to the Supreme Court of Canada,” Watson said.

Watson hopes Ontario Municipal Affairs Minister Steve Clark can step in, since Clark negotiated with ClubLink to pull a redevelopment plan for the renowned Glen Abbey Golf Club in southern Ontario.

Curry said the appeal court decision could set a precedent for other legacy agreements held by city hall and other municipal governments in the province.

“Certainly Kanata doesn’t want to be seen as all alone in this,” Curry said. “This is a much bigger issue.”

The legal fight over the future of the golf course has a second, separate component related to the proposed development.

The Ontario Land Tribunal is scheduled in January 2022 to hear ClubLink’s land-use planning argument for the project after city council, along with planning staff, rejected the rezoning application in 2020.

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https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...rom-bulldozers

[Sauvanto]

I know right haha... How dare they replace a private-ultra-expensive golf course with housing and public parks? Wouldn't want to share greenspace with the rest of us oh no no no!