YEG - Edmonton Int Airport - Page 489

dansk · #**9761** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 8:11 PM**

The federal government must step in and make massive changes to the aviation industry to keep Canadians flying out of this country's airports, a new report says.

High fuel taxes and onerous foreign ownership and airline-specific policies are harming the competitiveness of airlines, the C. D. Howe Institute report says.

This means Canadians are being forced to look south of the border for cheaper flights - including 4.8 million in 2011 - or are choosing not to travel at all.

The report, released Wednesday and called Full Throttle: Reforming Canada's Aviation Policy, says Canada was a global leader 20 years ago when it moved airports from government to private operation. The feds signed operating leases with not-for-profit airport authorities and the report's author Benjamin Dachis said now is the time for the federal government to sell the remaining interest either to those authorities or to for-profit corporations.

"Such sales could make investors, airlines, travellers, and taxpayers all better off," he said in a release.

The federal and provincial governments should reduce or eliminate remaining aviation fuel taxes and he said the federal politicians need to open up competition for foreign-owned airlines to be allowed to operate domestic routes.

"If Canadians are to have the most economically efficient aviation system possible - crucial for such a geographically huge country - the federal government should enact a comprehensive set of policy reforms across the aviation sector."

Messages left for Transportation Minister Lisa Raitt's communication staff for comment on the report were not immediately returned.

http://www.edmontonexaminer.com/2014/01/...g-to-be-more-affordable-in-canada-report

lubicon · #**9762** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 9:29 PM**

First thing they need to do is stop charging the Airport Authorities rent. The government is collecting revenue through the rent they pay every year yet contributing nothing to the upkeep of the airports. It's like a home tenant paying their landlord rent money AND having to pay for all renovations etc.

Coldrsx · #**9763** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 11:29 PM**

What the

http://www.aircanada.com/en/flights/Edmonton-to-Hong-Kong.html

ah... through Vancouver

cyeg66 · #**9764** Posted **Jan 22, 2014, 11:57 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastermaq

The numbers all come from Statistics Canada, as noted in the post! You can download the data to see for yourself (both datasets, passengers and movements, are linked in the post).

Thank you, quite familiar with those. But, still erroneous figures. I agree with the spirit of the blog, anecdotal as it is, but at least provide some accuracy when reporting #'s.

tuffyy · #**9765** Posted **Jan 23, 2014, 4:11 PM**

FedEx YEG-MEM is upgauging to a slightly larger A300-600F (Up from the A310F) starting Feb 3. The A300's have been operating the route occasionally already.

These will supplement the FedEx canada (Morningstar) 757-200F flight that operates 5 days per week on the YYZ-YWG-YEG-YVR route.

Also better get your CargoJet 727 fix as they are scheduled to be replaced by 757's this summer aswell. This will leave Purolator (Kelowna Flightcraft) as the only 727F operator at YEG this summer.

YegFan · #**9766** Posted **Jan 23, 2014, 4:30 PM**

^ Tuffy,

Why doesn't UPS send a plane from SDF to YEG. I find it odd that FEDEX is going to send a larger plane up here, in addition to the DHL 767, while UPS is absent.

tuffyy · #**9767** Posted **Jan 23, 2014, 4:59 PM**

^^^ The million dollar question!

UPS has invested heavily in YYC, but so has FedEx. So that argument seems invalid to me.

They currently send a few Metroliners and a Cessna caravan to feed the YYC 767-300 flight.

It's a matter of time I think. However they are the only courier absent with their own metal currently. With the exception of DHL who uses a Nolinor 737F, the 767 was only a seasonal upgauge for the Christmas rush.

MalcolmTucker · #**9768** Posted **Jan 23, 2014, 5:08 PM**

If the flight gets into Calgary early enough, trucking to Edmonton isn't too big of a deal if the volumes between the two flights wouldn't split into efficient sized loads.

tuffyy · #**9769** Posted **Jan 25, 2014, 10:00 PM**

Looks like you guys have a AN-124 (Volga Dnepr) on the ground right now.

Seems to have arrived Friday evening from Marsielle and still indicates its on the ground as of today with no departure time as yet.

dansk · #**9770** Posted **Jan 25, 2014, 10:05 PM**

Yep, been here for a while. Looked awesome with the nose up.

YegFan · #**9771** Posted **Jan 26, 2014, 3:32 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

If the flight gets into Calgary early enough, trucking to Edmonton isn't too big of a deal if the volumes between the two flights wouldn't split into efficient sized loads.

It is a big deal and in many cases result in packages getting delayed by a few days. If flight arrives late into Calgary on a Friday per say, and then your shipments gets held up with customs for a reason that is beyond your control, your package won't be delivered until Tuesday. It happens all the time.

Plus cut of times for express shipping (US and International) are really poor for the Edmonton area (2 or 3 PM). Compared with 6 or 7 for Calgary. For many, like myself, I struggle with UPS (but must use their services) and have started to use DHL more often.

hilman · #**9772** Posted **Jan 26, 2014, 7:54 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuffyy

Looks like you guys have a AN-124 (Volga Dnepr) on the ground right now.

Seems to have arrived Friday evening from Marsielle and still indicates its on the ground as of today with no departure time as yet.

https://mobile.twitter.com/kneelnobey/status/426977262005542912

sdimedru · #**9773** Posted **Jan 27, 2014, 9:40 PM**

First time this morning that I took off from YEG and saw the Rockies "albeit I'm the distance" clear as day!

Was I dreaming? Anyone else experience that before? I could make out distinct mountains, not just a blur or edges.

Something to so with the atmosphere/environment?

...curious or crazy ...

#**9774** Posted **Jan 27, 2014, 10:45 PM**

Are they using mobile stairs to hold the nose up in that pic?

Airboy · #**9775** Posted **Jan 28, 2014, 12:22 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdimedru

First time this morning that I took off from YEG and saw the Rockies "albeit I'm the distance" clear as day!

Was I dreaming? Anyone else experience that before? I could make out distinct mountains, not just a blur or edges.

Something to so with the atmosphere/environment?

...curious or crazy ...

In all my years of travel I have seen the mountains on take off only a half dozen times.

Cage · #**9776** Posted **Jan 28, 2014, 3:30 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airboy

In all my years of travel I have seen the mountains on take off only a half dozen times.

Start a Calgary habit and you will get to see the mountains all the time.

I will let myself out, no need to give me directions.

tuffyy · #**9777** Posted **Jan 28, 2014, 9:43 PM**

Air Canada Rouge schedules set to be released in the next few days.

Go figure.

YYC and YVR routes to be taken over (Mexico etc), YEG... Nothing even though YEG-CUN was on the list, it's gone now.

Fully committed to it's YYC hub? Yup they sure are.

hilman · #**9778** Posted **Jan 28, 2014, 9:49 PM**

What a surprise

, one of the many reasons I choose other airlines whenever I fly.

YegFan · #**9779** Posted **Jan 28, 2014, 10:05 PM**

So it is what it is. People can fly Sunwing, Air Transat, WestJet. And many will have no choice but to fly AC and AC rouge through YYC.

Why do we fly through DEN and IAH (etc) to connect to Florida. Until the time comes, and YEG becomes a hub for some airline to be, then we will have no choice.

I have tried for more than 15 years to avoid YYC - Had been for 6 years Super Elite with AC and now Premier 1k with United, and I am about to give up because obviously this strategy of avoiding YYC has not helped YEG at all. Even though YEG has grown by leaps and bounds, AC's service into YEG is decreasing. And until WS delivers frequent flyer points and become part of an alliance, I don't see myself flying WS.

dansk · #**9780** Posted **Jan 28, 2014, 10:27 PM**

Sunwing has done well in the YEG market and continues to expand here compared to YYC. Will be interesting to see how AirTransat reacts with their 737-800's next winter.