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Old Posted Sep 14, 2007, 7:11 PM
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Well I remember hearing about this university thing back in May I think, and I wasn't surprised at all when I heard the report's findings. I know the profs are upset, but let's be honest, some of the departments at UNBSJ (specially the Arts department) are in horrible shape. The faculty is of middling quality and the programs have so little money that they can't hope to improve any time soon. The whole university is a mess and needs an overhaul very badly (but that doesn't mean they should give up on the idea of being a full university). The university administration has been managing the campus badly for decades, and the people at the top siphon off money from contracts to their friends and themselves. What they need to do is fire the administration, disintegrate the whole organization, and start a new one from scratch because the institution is past the point of repair. Get a new name, a new structure, a new vision, new administration, use the same buildings, many of the same faculty, and give the students and community real change, not just the appearance of change.

The longer UNBSJ stays the same, the worse the city will be. But change should not eliminate liberal arts and pure sciences, those are essential driving forces behind social growth and public confidence in education.


I agree with you. The University does need a complete overhaul but it should still remain a Univeristy. The University Of New Brunswick has been having problems for quite some time. I almost broke out laughing when there were rumors floating around that St. Thomas and Mount Allison would be either closed or lose funding. Both are very highly respected Liberal Arts University's. Mount A has nearly 50 Rhodes Scholars (more than any other LB University in North America) and both STU and Mount A have cracked the top 10 for the last 10 years for best LB Univeristies in Canada. UNB needs a complete overhaul and they need to set goals for themselves. Both STU and Mount A are doing VERY well in their area of expertise, I don't know much about the University of Moncton, however, I will say this. If Saint John loses a full fledged University, it will be a MAJOR step backwards and it will overshadow all of the progress that has been made in recent years. I am embarassed for the Provinical Government and the fact that this "plan" is even on the table. This is indicative of how things work in New Brunswick and it is the reason why I left after I finished my studies. I am happy that some people are taking courses at NBCC and finding jobs in Saint John, but losing UNBSJ will affect the city in a profound way and will inevitably damage the cities psyche, economy, culture and future.
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I have to admit that the whole thing flew below my radar as well until yesterday.

The article today frankly strikes as a bit premature, because it doesn't say the report will (did?) recommend that UNBSJ be made a Polytech. The Commissioner said they were considering blah blah blah, the commissioner mused that there could be a focus on energy related blah blah blah, that the campus could be structured to resemble Quebec Polytechnic schools blah blah blah. If they didn't consider all the alternatives, then they didn't do a thorough job. Was this the only thing that the commissioner spoke about, or was it the only alternative that was reported? How many times are the recommendations of a commission not completely put into effect anyways?

There are a lot of things that could be done with UNBSJ which would orient themselves around the Energy Hub concept and not destroy the university premise, including engineering and environmental studies.

Does anyone have a update on what the report actually did say?
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I agree with you. The University does need a complete overhaul but it should still remain a Univeristy. The University Of New Brunswick has been having problems for quite some time. I almost broke out laughing when there were rumors floating around that St. Thomas and Mount Allison would be either closed or lose funding. Both are very highly respected Liberal Arts University's. Mount A has nearly 50 Rhodes Scholars (more than any other LB University in North America) and both STU and Mount A have cracked the top 10 for the last 10 years for best LB Univeristies in Canada. UNB needs a complete overhaul and they need to set goals for themselves. Both STU and Mount A are doing VERY well in their area of expertise, I don't know much about the University of Moncton, however, I will say this. If Saint John loses a full fledged University, it will be a MAJOR step backwards and it will overshadow all of the progress that has been made in recent years. I am embarassed for the Provinical Government and the fact that this "plan" is even on the table. This is indicative of how things work in New Brunswick and it is the reason why I left after I finished my studies. I am happy that some people are taking courses at NBCC and finding jobs in Saint John, but losing UNBSJ will affect the city in a profound way and will inevitably damage the cities psyche, economy, culture and future.
Its really surprising but I really agree with !

In answer to your interrogation about University de Moncton, my girlfriend is doing a master degre out there. In a overhaul, the University is doing a fair job so like any other Universities in this provinve, there are some financing issues they have dealing with. Moreover, the university facing enrollement problem. Finally, in my mind the focal point is that they offer few PHD in limited fields, in this manner, the people leave the province and often never come back. Thus, the University lose R&D private and public subsidy that at the end of the day could help to attract new corporations.
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Saint John is the fastest growing metropolitan area in the east

By John Clinkard, Consulting Economist, CanaData

With an unemployment rate of 4.5% (a record low) and employment growth of 8.0% (a nine-year high), Saint John’s economy is clearly operating at almost full speed. Four key sectors are currently driving the Saint John economy.

The health services sector added an estimated 3,000 new jobs over the past twelve months. Secondly, employment in the wholesale and retail trade services sector increased significantly (+2,800). This was partly due to the opening of the East Point Mall.

In addition, refurbishing the Point LePreau Nuclear Plant and developing the Canaport LNG facility has contributed a significant increase in the manufacturing sector’s employment (+1,400) over the past twelve months. Finally, the utilities sector has, according to Statistics Canada, more than doubled in size over the past year, adding approximately 1,000 new jobs.

Despite a modest deterioration in affordability, housing demand in Saint John has escalated sharply over the past year. According to the Canadian Real Estate Association, year-to- date sales of existing homes are up by 27.8% over last year. Meanwhile, prices have risen by 12% over the same period. This healthy increase in housing demand has also triggered a spike in new construction.

Year-to-date housing starts in Saint John are up by 17.8%. This is primarily due to a 40% year-to-date increase in multiple-unit construction. The boom in residential construction has been complemented by a surge in non-residential building, the value of which is up 16.8% year-to-date in 2007.

In the first half of this year, industrial construction increased by 300% year over year. This was mainly due to the development of the aforementioned nuclear plant and LNG plant, as well as new gypsum wallboard plant by J.D. Irving Ltd.

In addition, the downtown redevelopment by CenterBeam and Commercial Properties Ltd. will boost commercial construction in Saint John over the next several quarters.

Looking forward, there are increased risks to the outlook, due to recent financial market volatility. Growing concerns about the impact on Canada of the collapse of the U.S. housing market are also a factor. Given that current major projects are underpinning Saint John’s economy and should continue for the next few years, economic growth in the CMA should remain strong well into 2009.

John Clinkard has 30 years experience as an Economist in international, national and regional research and analysis with leading financial institutions and media outlets in Canada.
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Saint John is the fastest growing metropolitan area in the east

By John Clinkard, Consulting Economist, CanaData

With an unemployment rate of 4.5% (a record low) and employment growth of 8.0% (a nine-year high), Saint John’s economy is clearly operating at almost full speed. Four key sectors are currently driving the Saint John economy.

The health services sector added an estimated 3,000 new jobs over the past twelve months. Secondly, employment in the wholesale and retail trade services sector increased significantly (+2,800). This was partly due to the opening of the East Point Mall.

In addition, refurbishing the Point LePreau Nuclear Plant and developing the Canaport LNG facility has contributed a significant increase in the manufacturing sector’s employment (+1,400) over the past twelve months. Finally, the utilities sector has, according to Statistics Canada, more than doubled in size over the past year, adding approximately 1,000 new jobs.

Despite a modest deterioration in affordability, housing demand in Saint John has escalated sharply over the past year. According to the Canadian Real Estate Association, year-to- date sales of existing homes are up by 27.8% over last year. Meanwhile, prices have risen by 12% over the same period. This healthy increase in housing demand has also triggered a spike in new construction.

Year-to-date housing starts in Saint John are up by 17.8%. This is primarily due to a 40% year-to-date increase in multiple-unit construction. The boom in residential construction has been complemented by a surge in non-residential building, the value of which is up 16.8% year-to-date in 2007.

In the first half of this year, industrial construction increased by 300% year over year. This was mainly due to the development of the aforementioned nuclear plant and LNG plant, as well as new gypsum wallboard plant by J.D. Irving Ltd.

In addition, the downtown redevelopment by CenterBeam and Commercial Properties Ltd. will boost commercial construction in Saint John over the next several quarters.

Looking forward, there are increased risks to the outlook, due to recent financial market volatility. Growing concerns about the impact on Canada of the collapse of the U.S. housing market are also a factor. Given that current major projects are underpinning Saint John’s economy and should continue for the next few years, economic growth in the CMA should remain strong well into 2009.

John Clinkard has 30 years experience as an Economist in international, national and regional research and analysis with leading financial institutions and media outlets in Canada.


YEAH!!! Go Saint John !!
Thats what i like to hear
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Starbucks

In todays paper....

When a Starbucks moves in, it's a good thing


Shawna Richer
Telegraph-Journal
Published Saturday September 15th, 2007
Appeared on page F1

Word that American coffee colossus Starbucks was finally coming to Saint John was not news on the level of Jesus returning, but to coffee connoisseurs of a certain persuasion it might have felt like something rather close.
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Starbucks will open a stand-alone retail store, complete with drive-thru - the first in New Brunswick - at the East Point shopping complex on the city's East Side before the Christmas holidays, a fantastic gift to the city. Rich hot chocolate, pumpkin lattes and Guatemala Antiqua, hot beverages made for a Saint John winter, might never taste so perfect.

A Starbucks kiosk was scheduled to open in McAllister Place on Friday.

While the company has operated outlets in Chapters bookstores in Dieppe and Fredericton for some time now, this is bigger and better - a full-on Starbucks coffee bar and retail store, 2,000-square-feet with all the cozy amenities the chain has become famous for - double-sided fireplaces and comfy, overstuffed chairs for lounging and reading and sipping. The drive-thru, standard now on most detached Starbucks stores, puts it over the top as a daily destination.

Even more exciting is news that company officials have already said they plan to move forward with possibly two more locations in Saint John; an embarrassment of riches after a Starbucks drought.

The company with the ubiquitous green, topless, twin-tailed mermaid logo was founded in Seattle in 1971 as a local coffee bean roaster in the famous Pike Place Market and named in part after Starbuck, Captain Ahab's first mate in Moby Dick.

The chain exploded in the United States and made inroads into Canada in the late '80s and early '90s - spreading their bold, exotic coffees and steaming espresso drinks in warm and cheerful coffee bars, airports, shopping malls, bookstores and even Target stores across America. Sacks of Starbucks coffee appear alongside Folgers and Maxwell House on grocery shelves. The words tall, grande and vente have become common language. Starbucks' recent partnerships with rock stars as big as Bob Dylan and Paul McCartney and its recent partnership with Apple's iTunes store further cements the company's place in our culture as one of the most successful lifestyle brands of this generation, its influence extending far beyond its original product category - a simple cup of coffee.

In 2006 the company posted $7.78 billion (U.S.) in revenues and as of today numbers 150,000 employees and 13,168 stores and outlets in 40 countries across the planet.

The company opened its first Canadian store in 1987 in Vancouver, and in 1995 formed an alliance with the bookstore chain Chapters, where until now the only New Brunswick outlets existed. There are more than 500 Starbucks - full-scale to kiosk counters - across the country, and it may be only a slight overstatement to say that getting a massive Starbucks puts Saint John on the map in a strange way.

When Starbucks moves in, it's a good thing. Here's why.

Starbucks' expansion strategy only seems like an uncontrolled and widespread explosion of green logos and cardboard cups. The company does not open stores unless it believes it can thrive. In other words, Starbucks goes where things are hot, or at the very least, heating up. Toronto real estate agents use Starbucks openings in that city to gauge the next trendy neighbourhood.

Starbucks arriving in Saint John may be some of the most interesting evidence yet that the city is on the verge of a boom.

The other day I fell into conversation with someone who protested the arrival of Starbucks, citing the old offensive corporate monster argument. With all due respect to our own java juggernaut, Tim Hortons isn't?

Like everything that achieves massive mainstream success based on quality and taps into our culture and value system and taste, Starbucks is one of the great modern social dividers. In Canada, when it comes to coffee, you are Starbucks or Tim Hortons. In America, you are a Starbucks person or a Dunkin' Donuts person.

I have never been a Tim Hortons person, even though the company was founded in Hamilton in the '60s, just a few years before I was born in the same city.

When I first moved to Halifax from Toronto in 2002, I was disappointed to discover no Starbucks downtown, though I soon located a small one in Chapters in a big-box complex on the edge of town. It didn't take the Starbucks card, and it didn't have a fireplace, and it was a 15-minute drive from home. But it would do.

One time, on a road trip to Philadelphia I used my Starbucks card to pay for my grande skim latte. The balance was just enough to cover the cost, and the barista asked if I would like to reload my card.

"No, that's okay," I said. "I actually live where there aren't any Starbucks."

"Where do you live?" he asked. "On the moon?"

I had already left for a year in America - a Starbucks on every corner - before the first two stand-alone stores would open in downtown Halifax.

When I was at this newspaper in 1993, a new group of reporters and editors hired from Toronto and Ottawa and Vancouver were depressed by the takeout coffee choices in the city. So one day a colleague and I telephoned a Starbucks in Vancouver, ordered 20 pounds of coffee and sold the bags of beans in the newsroom.

My own passion for Starbucks is robust but my best friend borders on obsessive. For the longest time, she was reluctant to travel from Manhattan to Halifax to visit, until I discovered the Chapters kiosk.

One time, on a February drive to Plaster Rock, she asked sincerely if there might be a Starbucks on the way. I nearly drove into the ditch. On the way to Maine one Boxing Day, she made me drive all over Saint John looking for a latte, to no avail.

She once made a pilgrimage to Seattle and Pike Place Market so she could say she went to the first Starbucks. In our frequent BlackBerry correspondence, she refers to it by its NASDAQ symbol - SBUX.

I have fortunate friends who own stock in the public company, which just posted a 20 per cent revenue growth in its third quarter on the strength of 1,369 store openings over the past 12 months.

Cozy coffee bars, inviting armchairs, wireless Internet, wonderful baked goods, perfect and consistent lattes, Americanos and espressos. What is not to love and throw money at?

After all, Starbucks is hot, and they think Saint John is, too.

I am off to inquire whether we can arrange daily deliveries to the newsroom.

Shawna Richer is weekend editor of the Telegraph-Journal.
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East Point Shopping to make more news

On Wednesday, East Point Shopping will announce what's it's calling another "first for the province of New Brunswick."

Officials are refusing to say exactly what store might be locating at the East Side shopping complex, except to say it's a national retailer. East Point is located on Fashion Drive and the announcement will be made there at 11:30 Wednesday.
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East Point Shopping to make more news

On Wednesday, East Point Shopping will announce what's it's calling another "first for the province of New Brunswick."

Officials are refusing to say exactly what store might be locating at the East Side shopping complex, except to say it's a national retailer. East Point is located on Fashion Drive and the announcement will be made there at 11:30 Wednesday.

Hmm... If its a first for NB, Its something Halifax has but Moncton doesnt....
Hmm.... I would have to guess.... American Apparel, or Abercrombie & Fitch
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I will be excited to see what this is I wonder in what building starbucks will be going in probably the one on the end that is vacant....and if another store is on the horizon does this mean they will begin stage two of the buildings I hope so.

The bestwestern is already on its 4th floor and the saint john energy building Is massive I think it will look nice for people just getting into the city considering its viewing the highway. Also hampton inn is looking better by the week at some point I want to do a picture update but my Gateway is broke and my mac wont load the pics from the sony camera so I will have to make some adjustments but I will try nonetheless.
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One last thing I think I will be able to stop my complaining soon the bridge looks to be on its last leg.
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I'm thinking Starbucks may either have their own building or will be incorporated into phase two.
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I'm thinking Starbucks may either have their own building or will be incorporated into phase two.
Its going On depot drive, next to home depot. it said that in the paper last week. ans showed a rendering of the building. Its a pretty slick looking building to,
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IF they plan on opening by December they had better have their groundbreaking any day now, and have alot of workers on site.
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IF they plan on opening by December they had better have their groundbreaking any day now, and have alot of workers on site.
I doubt it will take long, its only a coffee shop, and the land is already developed. 2 months is all it will take... tops...
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Guess what?
Starbucks is now open for business
Score !
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I've never heard so much commotion over a coffee shop in my entire life
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Did anyone attend the rally yesterday?
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