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Published Tuesday September 11th, 2007
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Hankering for a Frappuccino or a Vanilla Latte?

Then have we got good news for you: The Starbucks kiosk in McAllister Place, the first of its kind in Atlantic Canada, is aiming to be open next week.

The 27-square-metre coffee stand, located near the mall's food court, will be a microcosm of the coffee company's standard stores.

But Patrick Keefe, vice-president of operations for Coffee Vision Atlantic, said the kiosk will carry the brand's full line of beverages and merchandise, from brewing equipment and mugs to whole coffee beans.

"It will be a little oasis in the mall - a great place to have a great beverage, great service and sit down and relax after walking the mall doing back-to-school shopping," he said.

Coffee Vision Atlantic, an authorized licensee of Starbucks Coffee Company, operates four locations in Dartmouth and one in Newfoundland. The kiosk will be the company's first foray into New Brunswick, but not its last.

Last week, the company announced it would be opening an additional location in Saint John: a full-service store with a drive-through in the East Point Shopping plaza, Saint John's newest retail location. The coffee store is expected to open by the end of the year and will employ between 20 and 25 people.

A team of 15 employees will operate the kiosk in McAllister Place.

"We basically follow our customers," Keefe said. "We listen to their feedback and we open stores where they would like to see us. We've been looking at Saint John for a long time and the right location became available so we decided to open."

It just happened that the McAllister Place opportunity arose first.

Over the summer, the company was busy training its new team and preparing the kiosk - hidden behind partitions to curious shoppers in the mall. The kiosk will feature 15 of the company's signature comfy chairs. "It will be a Starbucks experience at a kiosk," Keefe said.
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No westside Wal-mart, at least for now

September 11, 2007 - 5:05 am
By: Graham Brown-News 88-9 staff

Saint John- Don't expect a Wal-mart in West Saint John anytime soon.
Wal-mart has put a moratorium on investments for a number of Atlantic Canada projects. The company says it wants to focus on its super store concept for Alberta and Ontario.
Mayor Norm Mcfarlane tells our newsroom however, it doesn't mean the end of a shopping centre project for Fairville Boulevard."So it doesn't mean in the future they won't be back for us. in other areas there are 3 or 4 for they had for New Brunswick. It does not mean they are gone completely."
Mcfarlane says plans to relocate the Saint John transit building. He adds that council and city staff are still optimistic about the project.
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Wal-mart is a big loss for the west side. Wal-mart would of drawn a lot of attention to that part of town, also it would of provided a much needed source of employment.

The announcement at 10 am at Duke & Water street was for the new cruise ship welcome center, which will begin in October and end in July. It will be at the bottom of Duke street and they spoke of adding retail outlets, but there will be a park and a large clock ( see article in telegraph journal)

The Leinster project is almost finished. They just need to complete the inside of the building.

The Saint John energy building is looking huge and I cannot wait to see that when its finished.

All the foundations are up at Bentley crossings for phase II.

And the 14 million dollar housing development on the west side on Lancaster avenue is moving along quite well.

Will they ever be done with the bridge ???
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I'm getting used to having the white tarps there, looks like it's a part of the bridge now.
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Making waves Funding to be announced today for new Bay of Fundy Cruise
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Published Tuesday September 11th, 2007
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SAINT JOHN - Funding for a new cruise ship terminal and surrounding waterfront development will be announced this morning.

The entire area will be known as The Bay of Fundy Cruise Welcome Centre.

Federal Veterans Affairs Minister Greg Thompson, the regional minister for New Brunswick; Supply and Services Minister Roly MacIntyre, the minister responsible for the province's Regional Development Corporation, and Mayor Norm McFarlane are expected to attend the 10 a.m. press conference at Pugsley Terminal. Then, at 12:30 p.m., the Saint John Port Authority will host the grand opening of its new cruise ship facility at Long Wharf with a luncheon and ribbon- and cake-cutting ceremonies.

A Carnival Victory cruise ship out of New York City is also scheduled to make the inaugural call at Long Wharf today, with an estimated 3,200 passengers arriving at 9 a.m. and leaving at 9 p.m.

Officials from the port, the Saint John Waterfront Development Partnership and all three levels of government were tight-lipped on Monday about the announcement.

But the new Pugsley terminal, to be located at the foot of Duke Street, is expected to be a two-storey, 16,000-square-foot facility with a walkway connecting it to the existing state-of-the-art hydraulic gangway system, which automatically adjusts to the rise and fall of the tides.

The terminal is expected to cost up to $11 million.

Construction is slated to begin after the final cruise ship of the season departs at the end of October and should be completed by the time the first cruise ship ties up next June.

Other plans for the welcome centre include a large park space at Pugsley Park, which is currently a parking lot.

The entrance of the park will feature a clock tower that will help tourists orient themselves and remind them of the local time so they don't worry about missing their ship's departure.

The park area, including trees and benches, will snake its way south along the water's edge.

It will also include private development, with everything from restaurants, to coffee shops, and shopping being possible, depending on the response to a call for proposals.

Last spring, the storage shed at Long Wharf was torn down and a tent erected to serve as a second cruise terminal when the port hosts more than one ship at the same time.

Nearly 140,000 passengers are scheduled to make port in the city this year, up from 88,000 last year. The estimated economic impact will be more than $14 million.

Next year is already shaping up to be a record year, with at least 150,000 passengers expected to visit.

An increase of 10,000 should mean almost $1 million more being pumped into the local economy, according to industry estimates, which suggest passengers spend an average of about $85 each. Those numbers do not take into account spending by crew members.

Within five years, Saint John Port Authority president and CEO Capt. Al Soppitt has said he hopes to attract up to 200,000 passengers.

The cruise ship industry, which started in Saint John in 1989, accounts for about 15 per cent of the port authority's revenue.

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The design better not be the one on the first page (the one in today's paper), if it is than it will be a waste of money and a huge dissapointment. That eight story high rise sounds nice but i''m not a fan of Rocca or the east side, he never seems to get things done. Any news on the Irving Oil HQ?
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The design better not be the one on the first page (the one in today's paper), if it is than it will be a waste of money and a huge dissapointment. That eight story high rise sounds nice but i''m not a fan of Rocca or the east side, he never seems to get things done. Any news on the Irving Oil HQ?
I don't think the official final design has been released to date and the rendition in the paper you refer to is simply a 'concept' to create an idea of what it could look like (hopefully!) - and I agree with you, I hope it's not the one in the paper today. Looks like it will be a 2 story building though, with offices for the Port Authority and perhaps some small scale leasing. Whatever they build will need to encompass the future as I think we can all agree that cruise ships will not be calling on Saint John forever and ever. Still though, it is great to see some capitol funding happening and to see that the area is finally moving forward. This has been talked about for years.
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I am excited to see this all completed I think the parks and walkways will do as much for the presentation of the city as the building. If the building is not the greatest they can make up for it with some landscaping.

For possible retail I would like to see Keg startup on water street and maybe starbucks open up down there as well to.
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I am excited to see this all completed I think the parks and walkways will do as much for the presentation of the city as the building. If the building is not the greatest they can make up for it with some landscaping.

For possible retail I would like to see Keg startup on water street and maybe starbucks open up down there as well to.
I absolutely, completely agree with you on that comment. These are exactly the types of establishments that will drive the city core (uptown) and create excitement and hype. Combine those with the recent announcements (ie. Cruise welcome center) and we have the potential makings of something really great.
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I am excited to see this all completed I think the parks and walkways will do as much for the presentation of the city as the building. If the building is not the greatest they can make up for it with some landscaping.

For possible retail I would like to see Keg startup on water street and maybe starbucks open up down there as well to.



I think this is what were going to see is a keg and starbucks down there. Hopefully by next year. It will bring a cool vibe to that area of the city.
Time will tell i guess
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I think this is what were going to see is a keg and starbucks down there. Hopefully by next year. It will bring a cool vibe to that area of the city.
Time will tell i guess

I think the port should partner up with the Keg and Starbucks and integrate the m into the new welcome building along with other businesses. This probably isn't possible considering the new security measures at the port.. I like the way everything is coming together around the city though.... The paved sidewalks in the uptown and in the South End still bug me to no end, and the North End is still the North End, but things are chaning for the better.. I think i'll drive around and take some pics over the next few days... I"ll post them up on Sunday....
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Hello to everyone back in Saint John from here in St. John's. I made the move 2 weeks ago, so I'm going to rely on this board to keep me up-to-date on development in the city while I'm gone. Keep up the good work!

All of these recent announcements are good, although many are in the East Side (which I despise), but I guess there's nothing I can do about that. I honestly don't expect to see that Rocca development get built, he's just too slow/inconsistent to get much done. Also, am I the only one that thinks it is strange that Starbucks decided to build its first two locations in New Brunswick, only a 45 second drive from each other (not including traffic lights of course)?

I'm glad the cruise ship terminal is finally getting built, although it sounds fairly small, but I'll take anything over those tents, so I'm very excited. As many have said, it is the park area that will be just as exciting because it benefits locals not just tourists. Any word on whether they will take down that awful barbed wire fence where Pugsley Park used to be?

Finally, expect some announcements or talk about both the Courtenay Bay Forebay, and the Cold Brook flood plain soon. There are a couple big companies (I think you know who I mean) who are looking to create wetland and park area that could be using those areas....

Thanks again, and keep the updates coming!
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I think the port should partner up with the Keg and Starbucks and integrate the m into the new welcome building along with other businesses. This probably isn't possible considering the new security measures at the port.. I like the way everything is coming together around the city though.... The paved sidewalks in the uptown and in the South End still bug me to no end, and the North End is still the North End, but things are chaning for the better.. I think i'll drive around and take some pics over the next few days... I"ll post them up on Sunday....
I Also am Not a fan of the not paved roads and the unkept sidewalks. I'll be looking for the pictures.

Kwajo I'll try to keep you up to date good luck with your masters.





SO what is everyone's Thoughts of the University story I personally think it's crazy. We would be the only city in Canada of our size without one. I Didnt think that a city could go backwards and be even more blue collar. I mean we need engineers and technical training but we also need culture, doctor's, and business man. I have no idea how people in this area would be able to go to school we already struggle with poverty with a university here it makes it able to some of the people who couldnt afford it otherwise. I couldnt see people sending there kids away to school and going 40,000 in debt to do so.

Many of my profs are in outrage and the scary part of this is that this study has been going on for 8 months pretty much unnoticed by the public. How could we possible attract more immigration with the university being one of our largest contributors. If this school switches I know I will have to leave and I know many other people who may have stayed here will also leave. It angers me because I vote liberal that Graham would push for this. This may not all be fact but I know some of this is true from people extremely close to the situation.


There is a protest at 1:00 at Kings Square Monday.
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Published Friday September 14th, 2007
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Converting three of New Brunswick's university campuses to polytechnic institutes would harm post-secondary education and hamper research and development in the province, say two prominent business leaders.
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David Ganong, president of Ganong Bros. Ltd., says separating the University of New Brunswick's Saint John campus from the Fredericton campus would cause irreparable harm to UNB as a whole.

"The University of New Brunswick is the only national university in New Brunswick and it is only there by the skin of its teeth," said Ganong.

A national university, he said, offers a broad range of programs, ranging from traditional undergraduate offerings to engineering and law as well as a large amount of research and development work.

"It's important for New Brunswick that (UNB is) in that league," he said. "Once it is not, we would see a diminishment of the quality of teaching, the quantity and quality of research and development as (UNB) kind of wound down to be a 'regional' institution."

Ganong is a member of UNB's board of governors.

Carving off UNBSJ from UNB to create a new polytechnic institute in the Port City, would leave UNB without the resources to maintain its status as a national-level university, he said.

Ganong, who has written an opinion piece in today's edition, said he is reacting to published reports about potential recommendations from the provincial commission on post-secondary education.

Ganong was reacting to a growing controversy kicked off by Jacques L'Écuyer, co-chairman of the New Brunswick Commission on Post-Secondary Education.

L'Écuyer suggested two weeks ago in an interview with francophone media in northern New Brunswick that the commission was considering recommending that UNBSJ be allowed to "fly on its own wings."

The commissioner mused that UNBSJ could cater its programs to energy-related fields to take advantage of the expected development of the Port City into Atlantic Canada's energy hub.

He said the Saint John campus could be structured to resemble polytechnic schools that operate in Quebec.

The Commission on Post-Secondary Education is slated to release its final recommendations to the provincial government this morning in Fredericton.

Interestingly, the report is being released while Premier Shawn Graham is out of the province.

According to media reports, UNBSJ isn't the only campus facing a potential transformation into a polytechnic.

The Universite de Moncton's Shippagan and Edmundston campuses may also face a radical change.

Denis Losier, Assumption Life's president and chief executive officer, said Thursday fragmenting New Brunswick's universities could harm research and development efforts in the province.

"If we don't concentrate the research, if we don't concentrate the dollars, we'll have too many people fighting for the same dollars," he said. "I think it is going to have a negative impact on the capacity for New Brunswick to develop a lot more research."

Losier has helped raise funds for the Université de Moncton.

He is also a member of the advisory council for the post-secondary education commission, said he doesn't support converting UNBSJ or the two UdeM campuses to polytechnic institutes.

"I've argued against that (at) the commission," he said. "I haven't seen the final report"¦but the way it is presented, I don't agree, at all."

"We're a small province and there is no need to duplicate structures and institutions," he said.

"Normally in North America there is one institution for 750,000 people. In New Brunswick, we're already at four plus a private one."

Losier said universities have a major impact on the development of societies.

"We should strive to make them stronger, not weaker."

The notion of turning UNBSJ into a polytechnic has stoked anxiety and emotions on campus by students, faculty and staff.

Hundreds packed into a closed assembly on Wednesday to hear UNB president John McLaughlin and UNBSJ's vice-president Kathyrn Hamer, give short, off-the-cuff and impassioned speeches.

The speeches were followed by a question and answer session.

Eric Savoie, vice-president external for the student union at UNBSJ, said the meeting was "emotional."

"Saint John has fought to have this campus here and for some students this is their only opportunity to get a university education," he said.

"They feel threatened that maybe that could possibly be taken away from them."

Students, alumni, faculty and citizens in Saint John have bombarded local municipal, provincial and federal politicians with letters, calls and e-mails over the past few days.

Hamer, who was in Moncton Thursday at a press conference by the Atlantic Cancer Research Institute, said it's vital for UNBSJ to remain part of UNB.

"It's critical not only for UNBSJ but for UNB as an institution," she said.

Keeping the two campuses together helps UNB maintain its status as a national-calibre university, she said.

"You can't do that when you start fragmenting universities and chopping them up into smaller and smaller pieces."
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Well I remember hearing about this university thing back in May I think, and I wasn't surprised at all when I heard the report's findings. I know the profs are upset, but let's be honest, some of the departments at UNBSJ (specially the Arts department) are in horrible shape. The faculty is of middling quality and the programs have so little money that they can't hope to improve any time soon. The whole university is a mess and needs an overhaul very badly (but that doesn't mean they should give up on the idea of being a full university). The university administration has been managing the campus badly for decades, and the people at the top siphon off money from contracts to their friends and themselves. What they need to do is fire the administration, disintegrate the whole organization, and start a new one from scratch because the institution is past the point of repair. Get a new name, a new structure, a new vision, new administration, use the same buildings, many of the same faculty, and give the students and community real change, not just the appearance of change.

The longer UNBSJ stays the same, the worse the city will be. But change should not eliminate liberal arts and pure sciences, those are essential driving forces behind social growth and public confidence in education.
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