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wwmiv · #**9521** Posted **Nov 11, 2011, 4:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by austin242

If they plant trees like that I like it too. Third and Brazos Right?

Yeah, at the old Whitley Printing site.

The ATX · #**9522** Posted **Nov 11, 2011, 8:31 PM**

This is not unexpected given the economy, but the 21C Austin project is no longer listed as a future project on the 21C website. Also, the press releases for the Austin projects have been removed.

http://www.21cmuseumhotel.com/futureprojects/press/articles.aspx

The ATX · #**9523** Posted **Nov 11, 2011, 8:48 PM**

This will probably face neighborhood oppostion because it's East of I35:

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/print-...wntown-to-be-redone.html?s=image_gallery

Downtown_Austin · #**9524** Posted **Nov 11, 2011, 9:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hill Country

This will probably face neighborhood oppostion because it's East of I35:

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/print-...wntown-to-be-redone.html?s=image_gallery

That master plan is pretty discouraging. It's interesting that the fugly parking is what stands out most. That expansive chunk of asphalt topped out with cars doesn't seem attractive nor appropriately scaled. Much less good for the environment. This site should have greater impervious cover restrictions, and HS&A should be master planning with more vertical density. It's possible to get variances. Heck there's already a tower there.

The ATX · #**9525** Posted **Nov 11, 2011, 9:14 PM**

I should have probably added that in addition to facing neighborhood opposition that anybody with good taste and common sense would be against it as well.

Jdawgboy · #**9526** Posted **Nov 11, 2011, 11:42 PM**

Don't like it at all.

wwmiv · #**9527** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 12:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hill Country

This is not unexpected given the economy, but the 21C Austin project is no longer listed as a future project on the 21C website. Also, the press releases for the Austin projects have been removed.

http://www.21cmuseumhotel.com/futureprojects/press/articles.aspx

That's a bummer, but not unexpected at all.

On the other hand, this probably means that the property is on the market (or already sold, for that matter) and will be developed by someone else in the near future. Perhaps we'll get a better project than the 21C proposal (not likely, but let's be hopeful!).

Cloud92 · #**9528** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 2:45 AM**

the article did say there were five proposals hoping the others look better

KevinFromTexas · #**9529** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 5:16 AM**

I remember there was a story on this years ago and they stated it could support a 10-story tower.

http://www.statesman.com/business/heirs-of-peanuts-creator-to-sell-prime-commercial-1963630.html

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Heirs of Peanuts creator to sell prime commercial parcel near downtown

By Shonda Novak
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Updated: 11:06 p.m. Friday, Nov. 11, 2011
Published: 7:57 p.m. Friday, Nov. 11, 2011

For the first time in 40 years, the family trust of late "Peanuts" comic strip creator Charles Schulz is marketing a prime parcel just south of downtown that's now home to a Hooters restaurant and a parking lot.

A half-dozen local and out-of-town developers and investors have submitted offers to buy or lease the property, said Harry Whittington, the Austin attorney for the California-based Schulz family trust. The developers are considering building residential, office, retail or hotel projects on the space, Whittington said.

The 1.4-acre triangular tract is bounded by Barton Springs Road, South First Street and West Riverside Drive. Schulz, who died in 2000, bought the land — roughly the size of a city block — when it housed a Pelican's Wharf restaurant.

Whittington said that the site is zoned for commercial, residential or hospitality uses and that height is capped at 60 feet.

The ATX · #**9530** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 6:32 AM**

Here's the entire article about the RBJ makeover from the ABJ. There're no pictures of the other four proposals.

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/print-edition/2010/10/29/rbj-site-seeks-makeover.html?page=all

migol24 · #**9531** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 8:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Downtown_Austin

That master plan is pretty discouraging. It's interesting that the fugly parking is what stands out most. That expansive chunk of asphalt topped out with cars doesn't seem attractive nor appropriately scaled. Much less good for the environment. This site should have greater impervious cover restrictions, and HS&A should be master planning with more vertical density. It's possible to get variances. Heck there's already a tower there.

this looks like something you'd see developed in a houston suburb.

nixcity · #**9532** Posted **Nov 13, 2011, 2:13 AM**

Yea, hopefully the other 4 are WAY better than that one, that is a sweet spot for something special. Also, I've always wanted that Hooters/parking lot to go away. Outside of dt I would say it is one of the best pieces of property to redevelop.

TTU Arch · #**9533** Posted **Nov 14, 2011, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Downtown_Austin

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That master plan is pretty discouraging. It's interesting that the fugly parking is what stands out most. That expansive chunk of asphalt topped out with cars doesn't seem attractive nor appropriately scaled. Much less good for the environment. This site should have greater impervious cover restrictions, and HS&A should be master planning with more vertical density. It's possible to get variances. Heck there's already a tower there.

I'm neither here nor there on the design. But just looking at the rendering you can see the parking garages are masked by what will probably be residential buildings. The 'Texas Wrap' as many like to call it. This is clearly a sketchup model, and the horizontal lines are just the floor lines. At first glance, its easy to read it as one large garage, but study the rendering a little more and you can till there are roof lines on the building wrapping the garage(s).

JoninATX · #**9534** Posted **Nov 16, 2011, 11:35 AM**

Project Type New Construction
Site Work
Building Use Hotel / Motel
Multi-Residential
Museum
Restaurant
Reported 10/12/2011
Status Pre-Construction/Negotiated
Sector Private
Location Austin, TX
Est. Start Date March 2012

Site work and new construction of a mixed-use tower in Austin. Working drawings call for the construction of a 16-story, 243-suite hotel, a 44-story tower to house 209 guest rooms, 200 condominium units, a restaurant, an art gallery, museum space...

https://www.bidclerk.com/project.622895.html

Sounds like the once proposed 21C hotel???

StoOgE · #**9535** Posted **Nov 16, 2011, 4:43 PM**

So,

construction halted at the F1 track again yesterday.

Tavo Helmund and F1 seem to be looking for more cash from race promotors, as Talvo has not yet sold the rights to the race to the circuit. So, construction halted, state hasn't handed over the 25 million and says it won't until the contract is concerned.

And Bernie Eccelstone Head of the FIA, F1s governing body) is now saying he doubts the race. I said it before, that NJ race announcement was bad news for Austin.

ahealy · #**9536** Posted **Nov 16, 2011, 4:43 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoninATX

Project Type New Construction
Site Work
Building Use Hotel / Motel
Multi-Residential
Museum
Restaurant
Reported 10/12/2011
Status Pre-Construction/Negotiated
Sector Private
Location Austin, TX
Est. Start Date March 2012

Site work and new construction of a mixed-use tower in Austin. Working drawings call for the construction of a 16-story, 243-suite hotel, a 44-story tower to house 209 guest rooms, 200 condominium units, a restaurant, an art gallery, museum space...

https://www.bidclerk.com/project.622895.html

Sounds like the once proposed 21C hotel???

where???

BevoLJ · #**9537** Posted **Nov 16, 2011, 5:08 PM**

That sounds like the Manchester hotel next to the convention center. It is supposed to have two parts like that and each about that height right?

Edit: Oh, never mind. Just remembered the room counts is to low to be that one.

Austin1971 · #**9538** Posted **Nov 16, 2011, 5:48 PM**

Don't be surprised if one or both of the new convention center hotels doesn't break ground. Flop1 was one of the economic engines driving the hotel boom. Without Flop1 I'd find investors weary of dumping money into such large projects.....Hopefully they'll get their act together and fix this mess.....

ahealy · #**9539** Posted **Nov 16, 2011, 6:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Austin1971

Don't be surprised if one or both of the new convention center hotels doesn't break ground. Flop1 was one of the economic engines driving the hotel boom. Without Flop1 I'd find investors weary of dumping money into such large projects.....Hopefully they'll get their act together and fix this mess.....

Minus the positive economic impact F1 would've had, I'm kinda glad it got nixed. I can only imagine the assholes it would bring to Austin....

Jdawgboy · #**9540** Posted **Nov 16, 2011, 7:02 PM**

Its not nixed yet, there are negotiations going on as I type this. It does not look good but there is still some time left to get this corrected. If these people really want F1 to happen here they will find a way to make it happen, if they don't care then we will know in a few weeks.