ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 462

bigstick · #**9221** Posted **Jan 17, 2014, 11:47 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by forj

i think this design from back in 2008 ( or earlier? not sure ) looks fantastic... it's basically a box but has enough variation in the facade to make it interesting.. who knows if the final product will look anything remotely like this. i think at this point i just want to see what they are thinking. just gotta be patient i guess

AMAZING.

SwimAtl · #**9222** Posted **Jan 18, 2014, 12:18 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigstick

AMAZING.

yeah, I loved that proposal. But it's dead and the new building will look nothing like that unfortunately.

Jarod Apperson · #**9223** Posted **Jan 18, 2014, 12:18 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigstick

AMAZING.

I really like the 2008 design as well. This didn't look anything like that. There was zero variation in the facade. Just completely flat walls and glass with balconies jutting out.

On the plus side, I do think that the renderings they have done to date are probably preliminary. So, hopefully, they will come up with something better.

The reason I didn't snap a picture is they didn't put the full building rendering up for long. Instead, most of the discussion centered around the treatment of the parking structure which will make up the lower floors. On the north and south sides, the parking structure will be 100% concrete with no openings. The committee was concerned about how that might negatively impact the neighboring Atlanta Women's Club and the Opera patio. They asked that the developer consider some aesthetic improvements to the north side. They were less concerned about the south side because it abuts another parking deck.

There was a lot of discussion around the Crescent frontage (west side). Because Crescent is a small street, the parking structure will be what most people are able to see. The discussion indicated that at the last DRC meeting it was all concrete with some air holes. They came back with a new design. In my humble opinion it was hideous. They claimed it was some sort of weaving pattern which would be made from stucco, but basically, it is just like the "redesign" of the Skyhouse South parking deck. Minor enhancements are made, but ugly is ugly.

If they are doing a 50-story tower, they should take a page from the Perkins + Will partnership with Ned Kahn. Or even copy one of the Miami decks that look super green because huge plants are growing out of them. It seems to me there are some relatively inexpensive things (in the scheme of a $70M+ project) that can be done to make a deck look good with creative designers. These architects seemed to lack creativity.

forj · #**9224** Posted **Jan 18, 2014, 5:38 AM**

Uuuuuh what a bummer. I was just thinking halfway through your post, "they should just hand this one off to Perkins + Will. This thing is going to be very visible on the skyline. It's 2014. It isn't THAT hard to come up with an interesting design for a tower like this within their budget. Were there any actual negative comments on their design during the review? I would have had a hard time refraining from negative remarks if it is as uninspiring as it sounds. Sigh

thebigATL · #**9225** Posted **Jan 18, 2014, 5:50 AM**

Here's another old rendering of 1138 peachtree:

thebigATL · #**9226** Posted **Jan 20, 2014, 3:30 AM**

***QUESTION OF THE DAY***

-1138 peachtree ???????
-191 peachtree (3 MEGA TOWER PROPOSAL)??????
-777 spring st ??????
-when will the streetcar will be ready or any updated pictures???
-Any other tower proposals besides 811 and others we know about???
-Anyone knows about the (GWCC PROPOSAL) tower proposal next to the falcons new stadium, any confirmation.???
Any tall towers arriving or about to be proposed in atlanta??? (40 or higher stories)?????
Anything new that you know that I dont know??

DID YOU KNOW
(PROBABLY LATE BUT WHATEVER)

Did you know the Georgia Multi model will be adding 20+ stories around it, also this will be great dense for this side of downtown adding to this the PROPOSAL OF (GWWC) TOWER.

*****PLEASE ANSWER*****

1lifealex · #**9227** Posted **Jan 20, 2014, 6:57 AM**

Well I know more than 90% of the tracks is complete for the streetcar and testing is pushed back till the end of April because of weather the maintenance garage is complete they are almost done with the tracks that will be used for parking the streetcars when not in use or being worked on with is separate from the maintenance garage.

bryantm3 · #**9228** Posted **Jan 20, 2014, 10:25 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebigATL

-191 peachtree (3 MEGA TOWER PROPOSAL)??????

whoa— what's that about? 191 peachtree has been there for years. are they planning on eliminating those lousy lots behind it?

bryantm3 · #**9229** Posted **Jan 20, 2014, 10:29 AM**

excuse me, i meant parking decks. i was thinking of the lots behind peachtree center a couple of blocks north.

AtlantaMustang · #**9230** Posted **Jan 20, 2014, 2:00 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantm3

whoa— what's that about? 191 peachtree has been there for years. are they planning on eliminating those lousy lots behind it?

I don't think they mean 191. There hasn't been any proposal that I'm aware of. Probably meant the 14th street project supposedly being designed by Arquitectonica.

thebigATL · #**9231** Posted **Jan 20, 2014, 3:58 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

I don't think they mean 191. There hasn't been any proposal that I'm aware of. Probably meant the 14th street project supposedly being designed by Arquitectonica.

Sorry youre right *****CORRECTION 98 14 st ********
I was thinking about that area, at that time i posted this

7even6ix2wo · #**9232** Posted **Jan 21, 2014, 5:58 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarod Apperson

It is a square, all glass box with balconies sticking out. Thhere are no flourishes, no crown, nothing that stands out. The windows are a deep blue hue.

It may eventually change, but the current rendering is just boring. This is probably the closest to what it looks like:

There's nothing wrong with plain buildings. The crowns on our existing buildings are quite decorative and if every future tall building tries to out-do the others, that will not leave the best skyline. For example, I do not care for the empty/hollow crown on the newer building at Peachtree and 14th.

kingkool · #**9233** Posted **Jan 21, 2014, 10:04 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by forj

So were the 1138 renderings that poorly received that they aren't posting them or something? All I've read is that the design is "uninspired" for a 50 story building. There has to be someone who was there who can at least give us a better description than that. Maybe draw us a picture? Haha I'm sorry but the suspense is killing me - 50 stories is a big deal in Atlanta

Just an FYI, you can get their application with all attached data from City Hall. If they formally submitted the rendering they showed to the DRC, it is publicly available and not difficult to get. However, at this stage of the development, the rendering is probably going to change significantly before it gets built anyway...

briantech · #**9234** Posted **Jan 23, 2014, 5:10 PM**

Here's what the Spring St student apartments look like currently:

Pretty big hill they've made there ...

PremierAtlanta · #**9235** Posted **Jan 23, 2014, 9:26 PM**

The 26 story Skyhouse Buckhead apartment building (U/C) is now on Webcam:

Webcam: http://oxblue.com/open/SkyHouseApartments

atlantaguy · #**9236** Posted **Jan 24, 2014, 5:55 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by gttx

Um....wtf does this mean?

Exactly!

thebigATL - You need to dial it back a little. I understand your enthusiasm, but get real. There are no unknown supertall proposals, nor is there a demand for anything like that at the moment with the exception of the residential proposals we are all already aware of.

When you look at the big picture, the growth and changes here over the last several years - despite the recession - have been astounding.

We are finally in full recovery mode. You need to understand that things take time. There are simply not multiple "secret" proposals weekly for new skyscrapers. The city is in the process of bulking up with impressive low & midrise density, which is exactly what needs to be happening. Sit back, relax and take it all in.

cityenthusiast · #**9237** Posted **Jan 24, 2014, 6:34 AM**

Really? Wtf haha

netdragon · #**9238** Posted **Jan 24, 2014, 7:55 AM**

Riverview Landing on the Chattahoochee (Jamestown developer) is actually in Smyrna. The developer recently annexed the land into Smyrna because they liked how Smyrna was a progressive community in favor of walkable communities.

Frankster87 · #**9239** Posted **Jan 24, 2014, 10:26 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by netdragon

Riverview Landing on the Chattahoochee (Jamestown developer) is actually in Smyrna. The developer recently annexed the land into Smyrna because they liked how Smyrna was a progressive community in favor of walkable communities.

I had no idea Smyrna was any of those things

Terminus · #**9240** Posted **Jan 24, 2014, 11:01 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankster87

I had no idea Smyrna was any of those things

Actually, the City of Smyrna is quite progressive. I've done projects there and they were as supportive as an intown area with regarded to allowing mixed-use and higher density development.