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Old Posted Nov 10, 2014, 8:41 PM
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http://www.calgarytransit.com/plans-projects/lrt/plans-and-projects-red-line

According to this website, the last of the station upgrades to 4-car capacity will be completed in late 2014, but they aren't expecting to start 4-car trains until late 2015. Why the 1 year delay?
They basically need a minimum of three new vehicles before they can have a 4-car train, without reducing the number of trains, as the new LRVs wont be compatible with the old ones. After the delivery of the first LRV they can start training drivers while they wait for a few more.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2014, 9:03 PM
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The new LRVs start arriving in August 2015. After arriving, they have to be inspected and have final preparations done here. Then we have to wait until there is 3-4 here, and they will arrive approximately one a week. Essentially, it will be October before they have enough new cars in sevice to Start having some 4 car trains. After that, it will till take a while before even a majority or trains are 4 cars - well into 2016. Even the current order doesn't have enough new vehicles to make every train in the system a 4 car train - after some retirements happen.

The order that starts arriving next year will bring in 60 vehicles. Essentially, the city will need another 120 or more new vehicles on top of that in the next 10 years, just to move to 4 car vehicles and replace retiring vehicles - never mind growth. All of the U2s will be retired, and the oldest SD160s are getting close to the end of their service life, as they are more than 20 years old now.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2014, 9:37 PM
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The new LRVs start arriving in August 2015. After arriving, they have to be inspected and have final preparations done here. Then we have to wait until there is 3-4 here, and they will arrive approximately one a week. Essentially, it will be October before they have enough new cars in sevice to Start having some 4 car trains. After that, it will till take a while before even a majority or trains are 4 cars - well into 2016. Even the current order doesn't have enough new vehicles to make every train in the system a 4 car train - after some retirements happen.

The order that starts arriving next year will bring in 60 vehicles. Essentially, the city will need another 120 or more new vehicles on top of that in the next 10 years, just to move to 4 car vehicles and replace retiring vehicles - never mind growth. All of the U2s will be retired, and the oldest SD160s are getting close to the end of their service life, as they are more than 20 years old now.
I don't believe the first new car arrives until the fall now, and the testing and commissioning is about 6 weeks for the first car, then drops by about 50% for each subsequent car (near the end of the order, the commissioning process should take days, as most of the bugs should already have been worked out).

They don't start arriving one-a-week until later in the process - it gives CT and Siemens a chance to work out the bugs in the commissioning process for the first one or two, so any major corrections are made at the factory, rather than having major changes to be made to LRVs sitting in Calgary already.

As for the SDs, they are due for their mid-life refurbishment, so the oldest SD160s will start being overhauled (they're supposed to have a 30 year life span) - this will introduce new technology, and make them compatible with the Series 8s (CCTV, new dashboard, etc.)
     
     
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Gas Tax Fund offers $2.3B to Alberta municipalities over 10 years

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/g...a-municipalities-over-10-years-1.2830341

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Alberta municipalities will receive $2.27 billion over the next 10 years for infrastructure projects from the Gas Tax Fund Agreement with the federal government.

This year $208 million will be made available from for local projects across the province including:

$62 million to Calgary,
$44 million to Edmonton,
$5.3 million to Red Deer

The long-term agreement will allow municipalities to better plan larger projects, said Jason Kenney, federal minister of employment and social development.

They money is also indexed, protecting the funds from inflation, he said.

The fund, allocated on a per capita basis, will provide stable funding for Canadian municipalities for projects such as public transit, water and sewage, roads and bridges, tourism and recreation, said Rona Ambrose, federal health minister and regional minister for Northern Alberta.

“We know the importance of infrastructure projects to communities across Alberta, many of which are experiencing record levels of growth,” she said.

Edmonton has already committed its share of the money to expanding the LRT.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2014, 6:24 PM
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Better than nothing but not by much. While I'm glad to see the deal renewed this amount of money coming back to the cities is a drop in the bucket compared to what they need to even begin to catch up with infrastructure.
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Any idea what Calgary will be using its funding for?
     
     
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Can go to anything on the capital plan list really. Doesn't matter what it is spent on, as long as funds add incremental projects and don't divert planned capital expenditures supported by taxes to operating.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2014, 7:25 PM
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Can go to anything on the capital plan list really. Doesn't matter what it is spent on, as long as funds add incremental projects and don't divert planned capital expenditures supported by taxes to operating.
It would be great if these funds could go towards the Green Line.. but I'm guessing it's not enough to make any meaningful impact? Even with the $52M/yr of other funds dedicated to it?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2014, 7:44 PM
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It would be great if these funds could go towards the Green Line.. but I'm guessing it's not enough to make any meaningful impact? Even with the $52M/yr of other funds dedicated to it?
I have heard that some of the initial work is getting started next year on the Green Line. Specifically (and one of the most important parts) the 4th Street SW transit only-lane reversal from 4th Ave to 12th Ave so that Southbound buses no longer use 5th Street SW.

EDIT: I may have gotten confused on the start date. The lane reversal is set for Phase 1, but that may only be starting 2018. Anyone can confirm?
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2014, 7:28 AM
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My girlfriend takes transit back and forth to work on a regular basis. Since the new transit website launched this week she has been using the trip planning feature on it to see if perhaps the real time GPS info/different trip planning software might provide better suggestions on how she goes about her daily commute. For her, the results have been extremely disappointing. One example is the trip planning software telling her to walk 20 minutes from Sunnyside to Downtown to catch the Saddletown Train even though we live a 2 minute walk away from the Sunnyside LRT station. It also doesn't even recognize the routing that she has used for the last several months as a possible option even though the last generation of trip planner suggested it as the quickest way and through her own experience it has proven to be...

Just curious if any of the other frequent transit users on the forum have come across similar frustrations and irregularities with the new trip planning software being used on the new Calgary Transit Website? Perhaps newer isn't necessarily better in this particular respect.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2014, 1:05 PM
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Its probably because it uses Google's algorithms(a guess). I suspect its going to be one of the major drawbacks, that CT won't have much control over fixing things like this.

I've found the GPS tracking to be OK so far. Going into downtown, the bus usually shows up 2 minutes later than it is supposed to(when I check the website 8 minutes before leaving). From downtown, its about 2 minutes early (5 minutes after checking). I suspect whatever timing methods they use need a little tweaking. It will be interesting to see how it works when downtown is gridlocked....
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2014, 2:23 PM
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OK, scratch that... this morning when the bus was 5 minutes away, I left. Its a 2 minute walk to the bus stop. Of course I see the bus coming, 2 minutes early. I run, get about 10 feet form the back door and eat it just as someone is getting off. As I'm getting up the @$%^@$&^ bus driver takes off. Not impressed.

So the problem with the GPS system is it still relies on bus drivers to somewhat stick to their schedule. I'd imagine this guy managed to get a bunch of green lights that threw off the average trip time. Maybe the buses should beep at the driver, every 4 stops or so to tell them when they should leave a stop. Obviously having them use a clock is to complicated.

The best part is having the timing stop at the start of 6th ave, so everyone going to west downtown gets to sit on the bus for 10 minutes.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2014, 9:08 PM
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Why can't they just make that map available that shows you where the bus is? I can judge better if I have time to hop in for a coffee etc. if I know where the bus is.
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2014, 9:20 PM
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You can actually see them, only the ones before the stop you select. eg.
http://www.calgarytransit.com/nextride?stop_id=5144
     
     
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Why can't they just make that map available that shows you where the bus is? I can judge better if I have time to hop in for a coffee etc. if I know where the bus is.
Yeah, I hate this scheduled stuff. If it's real time, let me know how far the bus is on a map. It may seem trivial but on a gridlocked street like 6th ave a bus that's only 10 minutes away may take 30 to come by. I'd also like it if they included Google's live-traffic data on the sites map.
     
     
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You can actually see them, only the ones before the stop you select. eg.
http://www.calgarytransit.com/nextride?stop_id=5144
Well, better than nothing I suppose, but again, if I could see all the buses on a route, I can gauge things like bus bunching etc. I also wish I do my route selection on a map, like what they used to have before they pulled the Google service.
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2014, 9:40 PM
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My girlfriend takes transit back and forth to work on a regular basis. Since the new transit website launched this week she has been using the trip planning feature on it to see if perhaps the real time GPS info/different trip planning software might provide better suggestions on how she goes about her daily commute. For her, the results have been extremely disappointing. One example is the trip planning software telling her to walk 20 minutes from Sunnyside to Downtown to catch the Saddletown Train even though we live a 2 minute walk away from the Sunnyside LRT station. It also doesn't even recognize the routing that she has used for the last several months as a possible option even though the last generation of trip planner suggested it as the quickest way and through her own experience it has proven to be...

Just curious if any of the other frequent transit users on the forum have come across similar frustrations and irregularities with the new trip planning software being used on the new Calgary Transit Website? Perhaps newer isn't necessarily better in this particular respect.
The real-time system hasn't been reliable for me. For example, I was waiting at a bus stop for several minutes, and impatiently I called Tele-ride which told me the next bus was 60 seconds out. 7 minutes later, I impatiently called again, and it said the next bus was 7 minutes out. It then came in 60 seconds.

Although another explanation is that my bus stop contains part of the tesseract from Interstellar.
     
     
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Taking transit’s tech to task

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You know how on Facebook they have the option to say that you’re in complicated relationship? You’ve probably wondered who would ever actually admit to that? Well, me. I’m in a complicated relationship…with Calgary Transit.

For years I’ve made excuses for them, even in this here column. Whether it’s trying to explain to someone why Calgary Transit busses aren’t able to handle typical Calgary snowfall or how the displayed C-Train arrival times being as accurate as throwing an ant at a dart board. “Hey, it’s better than nothing.” I would say.

But it’s getting harder and harder to defend what feels more and more like an arranged marriage.

Earlier this week, after years of public outcry, Calgary Transit launched a redesign of their website. According to reports, it took more than a year to build and cost $500,000. Which is fine, websites can be expensive. But while I was tinkering on the website, I noticed that the website is actually just using Google Maps. Which, let’s be honest, anyone that’s been burned by CalgaryTransit.com before, was already using.

And how did the website do? Well, it crashed. And it didn’t just crash on it’s first day of operation, it crashed on Nov. 10, which would have been one of their slower days, since many people took the day off to give themselves a four-day weekend.

And sure, if Calgary Transit was a small business, it would be mean of me to mock them for having a website crash on its first day. But when the website is basically a rebranded version of Google Maps and it’s something that should have been put in place years ago, well then, enough is enough. Not to mention that Calgary Transit is hardly a small business. With a staff of more than 3,000, they are the largest, most public facing business unit in the City of Calgary.

But it’s not just the website. We’ve been promised e-fare payments since 2010. But due to some more glitches, the costly project was scrapped in 2012 and then revitalized earlier this year, even though an implementation date has yet to be set. What is taking so long? There is clearly a problem somewhere down the line. Who is going to take responsibility for yet another fumble? It’s important to point out that a city like Lethbridge has had e-fare payments since 2011.

And let’s not forget that Calgary Transit will also be increasing fees next year to $3.15. Fine. If you have to raise fees for better service, there’s not much we can do about that. But what really irks me is that Calgary Transit has never done anything to earn or deserve customer loyalty. Did you know that we’re the only major city in Canada that doesn’t offer discounted fares — such as making it cheaper to ride at night, weekends or when you buy tickets in bulk? I don’t know a ton of about business, but Calgary Transit has to be the only place where buying something in bulk like a 10-pack of tickets results in absolutely zero discount.

I, for one, am done celebrating Calgary Transit’s small victories. Why should we celebrate something that Calgarians deserved to have 10 years ago? We have to stop treating Calgary Transit like we don’t deserve better. Like a real relationship, this is about trust and respect. And after years of using Calgary Transit, can anyone really say they deserve us?
     
     
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^ the beta advanced trip planner uses a Google base map, but the rest is built off City of Calgary GIS, and in house programming.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2014, 4:06 AM
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^ the beta advanced trip planner uses a Google base map, but the rest is built off City of Calgary GIS, and in house programming.
Don't you typically run your beta in parallel to your production version? Seems kinda premature to push this out if it's still in beta.
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