New subdivision developments

[BlackRedGold]

Originally Posted by Multi-modal

Its actually a nice N-S cycling corridor...

If you are heading south from Maple Grove Road, you can cross Hazeldean to Victor Street, then you are on a pathway all the way to Abbott Street and the Trans Canada Trail.

But you're still going from a regular road to a regular road.

[Multi-modal]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold

But you're still going from a regular road to a regular road.

I'm not sure I understand. There are many reasons someone might take this route... recreation, to bike to stittsville, or high school for instance.

I'm not saying the change is that much better for cyclists... other than slightly less traffic on the route. I'm just saying it's nice they are at least preserving it as a north-south route that doesn't require biking on an arterial. These "neighbourhood bikeways" are common in Vancouver.

Keeping a ped and cycling grid (as much as there is one in the suburbs) is good. A vehicular grid is also good for distributing traffic and transit, but it's not as important in my mind. I wouldn't have made this change if I ruled the world, but it's not the worst change caused by neighbourhood complaints I've seen.

P.s. they should totally connect stittsville to maple... So silly.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold

But you're still going from a regular road to a regular road.

Why do you think cyclist need to stay off of roads? As Multi-modal said it is keeping a route open for pedestrians and cyclists that is being closed for automobiles. It would also be a good dog walking path for those who live nearby.

[BlackRedGold]

Originally Posted by Multi-modal

I'm not sure I understand. There are many reasons someone might take this route... recreation, to bike to stittsville, or high school for instance.

I'm not saying the change is that much better for cyclists... other than slightly less traffic on the route. I'm just saying it's nice they are at least preserving it as a north-south route that doesn't require biking on an arterial. These "neighbourhood bikeways" are common in Vancouver.

Keeping a ped and cycling grid (as much as there is one in the suburbs) is good. A vehicular grid is also good for distributing traffic and transit, but it's not as important in my mind. I wouldn't have made this change if I ruled the world, but it's not the worst change caused by neighbourhood complaints I've seen.

This isn't a grid. This is literally a path to nowhere. It doesn't connect any bike paths with any other bike paths. South of Hazeldean there appears to be lots of paths through Stittsville. But this doesn't connect to them.

[zzptichka]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold

What is the purpose of a pedestrian/bicycle path that leads to nowhere?

It's a park. The path just happens to be there.

[Multi-modal]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold

This isn't a grid. This is literally a path to nowhere. It doesn't connect any bike paths with any other bike paths. South of Hazeldean there appears to be lots of paths through Stittsville. But this doesn't connect to them.

You know cyclists can bike on both roads and paths right? So it's a path that connects two roads that are part of a larger network of roads and paths. Roads are not "nowhere" to cyclists. And us others have pointed out the point is not the path, but the park and the (debatable) traffic calming.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by Multi-modal

You know cyclists can bike on both roads and paths right? So it's a path that connects two roads that are part of a larger network of roads and paths. Roads are not "nowhere" to cyclists.

Agreed, and John Woods street is a decent street to ride on. Maple Grove, not so much anymore though, as it is rapidly becoming a major collector, but Rosehill will be a better cycling route. There will also be links to the path from Sweetbay Cir, Escallonia Ct and Mika St.

And us others have pointed out the point is not the path, but the park and the (debatable) traffic calming.

Also, the path will probably be used more by pedestrians than cyclists. In my neighbourhood, the pedestrians greatly outnumber the cyclists. Dog walkers especially like paths as you don't need to worry about cars or people complaining that your dog is peeing on their lawn.

[roger1818]

from: https://shadqadri.com/2017/11/03/joh...sure-update-2/

Johnwoods Closure Update

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ON NOVEMBER 3, 2017 BY SHADQADRIIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, WEEKLY COLUMN



I have received a number of questions and comments from residents regarding the Johnwoods Street Closure which will be taking place on November 15th. For background, including information on the decision to close the road, I encourage residents to ensure they have reviewed the information posted on my website here.

Working with City staff, the following responses have been prepared for some of the questions that have been raised. I am continuing to work with City staff on the questions that have been raised and will share more information with the community in the coming weeks as we move forward in this process.

There have been requests for a delay to the closure and at this time there are no plans to delay the closure of the road. It is anticipated that this entire project will be completed by the end of June 2018.

Linear Park Design Comments:

• Some residents have requested an extension to the comment deadline for the design details of the park. The deadline for design comments has been extended until November 30th, 2017.
• Following the deadline of November 30th, comments will be consolidated and reviewed. Responses and any revisions will be posted in my eNewsletter.

Road Inquires:

• Residents have raised concerns with some of the road conditions in the area. Santolina and the portion of Rosehill within the Fairwinds West subdivision is complete with top lift of asphalt. Top lift on the remaining portion of Rosehill is estimated for summer 2018 due to continuous work on the Poole Creek subdivision. The barricade on Rosehill will be open without the top lift being completed. A request has been placed with Tartan to help fix some of the potholes near Rosehill and Warmstone to provide a better driving condition.
• There have been inquiries regarding the classifications of roads in this area and on the map it notes that Maple Grove Road is a Major Collector Road and that the southern portion of Johnwoods and Rosehill are classified as Collector Roads. A reminder that an extensive list of all road classifications in Stittsville is available on the “Ward Maps” section of my website under the “Community” header or by clicking here.
• Rosehill and Santolina were designed to accommodate transit service and this was also noted in the purchase and sales agreements of the homes on these streets.

Rosehill Traffic Calming:

• Rosehill Drive will have traffic calming measures installed on the street. Please see the map available here, showing the location of the permanent and temporary traffic calming measures planned for the street.
• The long term permanent plan is to have traffic calming chicanes installed on the street. These will be installed once the entire street receives the top lift of asphalt in 2018. The final design for these is in the process of being completed and will be shared with the community once complete.
• In the interim, by November 8th there will be flex stakes placed in 5 locations on Rosehill Drive. These will remain in place until the snow falls this season and if necessary will be re-installed in the Spring 2018 before the chicanes are installed.

Traffic Counts for Johnwoods

• Transportation staff are reviewing the traffic data submitted by the community. This data is being compared to the City’s existing data as well as data which I contracted to have done on the street. The City’s Transportation Department has also recently taken a traffic count during Ottawa Senators home games and this data is currently being processed.

Closure Notice Signage

• Portable visual messaging signage (PVMS) has been installed in a number of locations as of November 2nd to advise commuters of the road closure.

Update to Mapping Programs

• The City’s mapping program will be updated and the City has also been in contact with mapping agencies such as Google Maps.

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by roger1818

Agreed, and John Woods street is a decent street to ride on. Maple Grove, not so much anymore though, as it is rapidly becoming a major collector, but Rosehill will be a better cycling route. There will also be links to the path from Sweetbay Cir, Escallonia Ct and Mika St.



Also, the path will probably be used more by pedestrians than cyclists. In my neighbourhood, the pedestrians greatly outnumber the cyclists. Dog walkers especially like paths as you don't need to worry about cars or people complaining that your dog is peeing on their lawn.

20+ years ago when the area around the Scotia Bank Place was rapidly being expanded etc, many on Johnswood feared their street would be filled with cars using it as a shortcut. One resident ranted and ranted about it, got speed bumps put on the road to slow down cars and basically bellowed and bellowed to bully his way through the system. Eventually he ran for City Council and lost, but in the end became the Councillors assistant. A number of years ago though he passed away.

https://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/...o-rourke-dies/

Could the issues he raised been the impetus for the road closure?

[rocketphish]

Stittsville subdivision open house Nov. 30

by Brian Dryden, Stittsville News
Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 11:05 AM



More residential development in the ever-growing community of Stittsville that could eventually involve about 1,100 housing units will be the focus of an open house and public meeting on Nov. 30.

The meeting starts with an open house at 6:30 p.m. at the Goulbourn Recreation Complex in Hall A at 1500 Shea Rd. on that date, with a presentation about the project to start at 7 p.m.

According to plans released by the city, “the Plan of Subdivision proposes the development of approximately 1120 detached, townhouse, stacked townhouse, and low-rise apartment residential units.

“The subdivision also includes blocks for commercial development to accommodate a range of small scale retail, restaurant, and service commercial uses and automobile dealerships. A secondary school (OCDSB) and parks, including the Kanata West District Park, are also proposed,” the city’s description of the proposal states.

The proposed plan of subdivision by Shenkman/Cavanagh is in relation to a property at 195 Huntmar Drive that is located west of Huntmar Dr. and south of Hwy. 417.

Stittsville Coun. Shad Qadri is asking residents seeking more information about the proposal to contact his office or contact Ottawa city planner Louise Sweet at 613-580-2424, ext. 27586, or via email at [email protected].

“If a person or public body does not make oral submissions at the public meeting or make written submissions to the City of Ottawa ... then they are not entitled to appeal the decision of the City of Ottawa to the Ontario Municipal Board,” once the city makes a decision about the proposal, city staff point out.

by Brian Dryden
Email: [email protected]

https://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/...-house-nov-30/

[Marshsparrow]

WOW - sprawl, sprawl, sprawl...

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

WOW - sprawl, sprawl, sprawl...

If only the City of Ottawa had, like, plans and policies that officially disfavoured sprawl or something.

[waterloowarrior]

re: 195 Huntmar (above) - meeting was just postponed to Jan 10 2018

There is supposed to be a revised plan posted in the future.
https://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans...appId=__0AH1LJ

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

re: 195 Huntmar (above) - meeting was just postponed to Jan 10 2018

There is supposed to be a revised plan posted in the future.
https://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans...appId=__0AH1LJ

That application has a new report submitted I've never heard of before: A Meanderbelt Width Assessment....which I gather is a report determining how much a river will deviate from its current path.

This application I'm sure is guaranteed to get the residents who live to the south in a later about density, traffic, schools etc....despite the fact that they live in similar densities.

[rocketphish]

Jeepers, you'd think there were already enough car dealerships in the area:

[Uhuniau]

Why, in this supposedly enlightened era, are we still building residential street layouts like that?

[Multi-modal]

The only thing about this layout that really bugs me is that Palladium doesn't extend to Stittsville Main. I got nothing against parks, but why does the district park block the logical grid-connection of those two collectors...

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Jeepers, you'd think there were already enough car dealerships in the area:

My only thought is they are wanting all major auto makers in the Auto Mall. Inside the current Mall there are:

• Toyota
• Volkswagen
• Hyundai (though not Kia)
• GM
• Honda
• Chrysler (Fiat?)

There is only room for one more, but notably absent, but nearby are:

• Ford (on Terry Fox)
• Nissan (in Bells Corners)
• Kia (on Terry Fox)

Having those dealerships move to the park would be beneficial as the land they are currently on (especially on Terry Fox) could be better used for something else.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by Multi-modal

The only thing about this layout that really bugs me is that Palladium doesn't extend to Stittsville Main. I got nothing against parks, but why does the district park block the logical grid-connection of those two collectors...

I am not sure why the extension needs to be aligned with Palladium Drive specifically in a grid-connection. The most important thing is it to have an efficient connection to the Palladium drive interchange.

IMHO, the best way to do that would be to make Stittsville Main connect into that new roundabout. It would mean redesigning the western neighbourhood to eliminate the intersections on the south side (they could be on the north side instead.

[daud]

was driving terry fox this weekend and saw an billboard for metric homes development at Trail View:

http://www.metrichomes.com/project.php?id=17

The billboard immediately caught my eye for the tag line "No Vinyl Siding!".

I just wanted to commend that approach as I personally can't stand vinyl siding and i wish the city would really limit the amount of it used in suburban developments. I know the alternatives can be more expensive but that siding can really look awful over time and whole neighbourhoods of vinyl siding built in the 80s don't look good at all.