MIAMI | Development Thread - Page 45

Siriusly · #**881** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 3:21 AM**

Nice pics Vision...

In this pic, is that cluster of buildings on the right side that look further forward than the main cluster on their own peninsula?

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NewAtlantisMiami · #**882** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 3:34 AM**

In case he doesn't answer, that cluster is on the tip of South Beach. Here, you are seeing both the Miami skyline and the Miami Beach skyline from out to sea. Miami Beach along with Surfside and Bal Harbour are on a barrier island which technically could be considered the beginning of the Florida Keys. One of the pics on the previous page from very high up shows how they are related to each other and connected by the causeways. When I lived on Miami Beach, sometimes I went for weeks without ever leaving South Beach. Sometimes, with my bay view, I never left my apartment for a whole weekend. For New Year's Eve, the Fourth of July, or any occasion, I would just stand on my balcony and get invited to parties.

VisionMIA · #**883** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 3:35 AM**

yes you have a mix of both skylines there that would be the Miami Beach skyline which goes all the way north on the beaches.

here is another skyline of Miami. Sunny isles. I call this the sleeper skyline of Miami..

Siriusly · #**884** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 3:43 AM**

Thanks for answering Atlantis & Vision...

I'm so confused trying to place where everything is at in relation to downtown. Sunny Isles, Miami Beach, South Beach, it's too much...

NewAtlantisMiami · #**885** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 4:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Siriusly

Thanks for answering Atlantis & Vision...

I'm so confused trying to place where everything is at in relation to downtown. Sunny Isles, Miami Beach, South Beach, it's too much...

We have the distinction here in Miami-Dade county of having 3 noteworthy skylines all separate from each other. The Sunny Isles Beach skyline could hold its own along side the skylines of a lot of other major American skylines. So far, it has 8 buildings over 500 feet tall, and God knows how many in the 400 and up range. It is because of NIMBYS on Miami Beach though that the Miami skyline and the Sunny Isles Beach skylines are as big as they are. The Miami Beach development boom of the 1990s sparked an antidevelopment movement. But it would be so great if Miami Beach had all the buildings on Sunny Isles Beach and was actually part of the city of Miami. Then we would have two great skylines on both sides of Biscayne Bay in the same city. Well, you can't have everything in life. At least they are all in the same county.

NewAtlantisMiami · #**886** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 5:44 AM**

Are you Chicago guys familar with Helmut Jahn? You should be. He's a Chicago architect. He had planned to build 3 Towers over 600 feet tall on South Point in South Beach in the 90s, but the NIMBYS shot the project down saying we weren't Chicago. I wanted to kill somebody. One of the "Save Miami Beach" people asked me to sign a petition before I knew who they were, and I asked "What are you trying to save Miami Beach from?" When they said they were trying to save it from sky rises (a lot of Latins call them that). I said "But I like sky rises!" He just looked at me like I was weird.

Cityseed · #**887** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 1:04 PM**

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sky rises (a lot of Latins call them that)

Cityseed · #**888** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 1:51 PM**

http://www.miamiherald.com/460/story/500447.html

I'd much rather go here for an event than bayfront. Its got a great view to downtown.

NewAtlantisMiami · #**889** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 6:18 PM**

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http://www.miamiherald.com/460/story/500447.html

I'd much rather go here for an event than bayfront. Its got a great view to downtown.

I agree with you! I like that place. Maybe they can get it going again.

NewAtlantisMiami · #**890** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 6:50 PM**

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Half the size how? Skyline? Judging from the two examples, I would say it's about a quarter of Chicago.

From the two examples, you are right, but based on what has made it to construction thus far and has not yet gone vertical, Miami's skyline will be a little more than a third of the size of the Chicago skyline as well as third in the U.S.. We will look a lot more alike then.

Tom In Chicago · #**891** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 8:13 PM**

I'm not going to delete all the off topic Chicago/Miami/New York comparisons for two reason. . . 1 - there's just too many and 2 - the conversation has not gotten mean-spirited. . . but let's keep this thread back on topic. . . this is about Miami projects and construction. . . please keep it that way. . .

. . . and yes. . . everyone knows who Helmut Jahn is here in Chicago. . .

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NewAtlantisMiami · #**892** Posted **Apr 18, 2008, 8:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago

I'm not going to delete all the off topic Chicago/Miami/New York comparisons for two reason. . . 1 - there's just too many and 2 - the conversation has not gotten mean-spirited. . . but let's keep this thread back on topic. . . this is about Miami projects and construction. . . please keep it that way. . .

. . . and yes. . . everyone knows who Helmut Jahn is here in Chicago. . .

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Thanks! I really enjoyed the pics of the Chicago though

. Have never seen perspectives like that. I never knew what the city really looked like until now!

Sometimes, it just happens that way.

GREGGYMIAMI305 · #**893** Posted **Apr 21, 2008, 9:15 PM**

Check Out The Videos Of Downtown Miami Construction I Posted In The Found City Video Section !!!!

Rebeldon · #**894** Posted **Apr 22, 2008, 2:24 AM**

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over 700' over 600' over 500' over 400' over 300'
Dallas 5 6 17 26 54
Miami (city limits only) 3 9 25 54 82
Greater Maimi (w/ beaches) 3 9 32 78 123

I went back to look at the thread and noticed my info was incorrect.

Corrected info...

Dallas 5 11 17 26 54

NewAtlantisMiami · #**895** Posted **Apr 24, 2008, 7:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago

I'm not going to delete all the off topic Chicago/Miami/New York comparisons for two reason. . . 1 - there's just too many and 2 - the conversation has not gotten mean-spirited. . . but let's keep this thread back on topic. . . this is about Miami projects and construction. . . please keep it that way. . .

. . . and yes. . . everyone knows who Helmut Jahn is here in Chicago. . .

. . .

Our current second tallest tower (which was our tallest for 20 years) is the Wachovia building, and it was designed by the prestigious Chicago architectural firm of Skidmore, Owings, and Merrill. It was so far ahead of its time, that fits right into the new Miami skyline with architecture that speaks well to the area in which we live. The elegant design of its terraced top creates a beautiful inverted triangle of squares at the top of one of its corners as viewed from the Rickenbacker Causeway. From that angle, it says MIAMI so exquisitely! What a great job they did for us! It would be so nice if we could have another one like that from Chicago.

Rebeldon · #**896** Posted **May 1, 2008, 3:26 AM**

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Our current second tallest tower (which was our tallest for 20 years) is the Wachovia building, and it was designed by the prestigious Chicago architectural firm of Skidmore, Owings, and Merrill. It was so far ahead of its time, that fits right into the new Miami skyline with architecture that speaks well to the area in which we live. The elegant design of its terraced top creates a beautiful inverted triangle of squares at the top of one of its corners as viewed from the Rickenbacker Causeway. From that angle, it says MIAMI so exquisitely! What a great job they did for us! It would be so nice if we could have another one like that from Chicago.

It is very similar to Chicago's Three First National Plaza, in design, height, and was built around the same time and designed by the same firm.

drew11 · #**897** Posted **May 7, 2008, 4:05 AM**

Has anyone seen that the developer building met three is chopping it down 25 floors. There was an entire discusion on ssc about it, they said it would end up from 42-56 floors and there might be a design change. Really dissapointing it could have been an iconic tower for the city.

Cityseed · #**898** Posted **May 7, 2008, 1:46 PM**

Sad news indeed. Are they changing from residential to mixed use?

drew11 · #**899** Posted **May 7, 2008, 4:02 PM**

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Sad news indeed. Are they changing from residential to mixed use?

I don't really know i think it will stay the same. I would have liked it to stay at 849'. The developer must be

Complex01 · #**900** Posted **May 7, 2008, 7:54 PM**

I agree, i was very much looking forward to this tower standing out from that location. Its one of my favorite projects out there. Sad news. They better do something good with it...