MIAMI | Development Thread

[Vinu007]

Empire World Towers looks kind of same like the World Trade Center

[VisionMIA]

and you are right..they are to commemorate the WTC. which is why their setup is similar to the WTC. they are inspired from exactly that!

[Rebeldon]

Including completed and topped-out buildings, the "Greater Miami Area" which includes Miami, Miami Beach, and Sunny Isles Beach, ranks 3rd in North America for buildings over 500 feet (32), 3rd in buildings over 400 feet (78), and 3rd in buildings over 300 feet (123).

Within the Miami city limits, which does not include the beaches, Miami ranks 4th in North America in buildings over 500 feet (25), 3rd in buildings over 400 feet (54) and 7th in buidlings over 300 feet (82).

Can anybody name the six cities in North America that have more buildings than the Miami city limits over 300 feet? I'll start the list...

New York City (606)
Chicago (291)

[NewAtlantisMiami]

Originally Posted by Rebeldon

Including completed and topped-out buildings, the "Greater Miami Area" which includes Miami, Miami Beach, and Sunny Isles Beach, ranks 3rd in North America for buildings over 500 feet (32), 3rd in buildings over 400 feet (78), and 3rd in buildings over 300 feet (123).

Within the Miami city limits, which does not include the beaches, Miami ranks 4th in North America in buildings over 500 feet (25), 3rd in buildings over 400 feet (54) and 7th in buidlings over 300 feet (82).

Can anybody name the six cities in North America that have more buildings than the Miami city limits over 300 feet? I'll start the list...

New York City (606)
Chicago (291)

San Francisco
Houston
Dallas
Los Angeles?

I'm impressed with your stats and knowledge of the area. I thought I was the only one looking at the numbers that closely and came up with the same results you did. Few people outside of South Florida know that Miami Beach is not in Miami, but is its own separate city.

[lviz]

I included the shot of Mary Brickell Village as you can see the podium for Skyline.

[vanlaw]

http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Investment/10204522.html

Nakheel arm buys stake in Miami resort for Dh1.37b Staff Report
Published: April 10, 2008, 19:28


Dubai: Nakheel announced yesterday that it has invested Dh1.37 billion ($375 million) with Fontainebleau Resorts LLC, a privately-held Las Vegas based resort developer, in exchange for a 50 per cent stake in the US company's Font-ainebleau Miami Beach resort.

Nakheel Hotels, a business unit of Nakheel, will recreate the Fontainebleau Miami Beach in partnership with Fontainebleau Resorts, with a $500 million renovation. The project is expected to open in the last quarter of 2008.

On seven hectares of oceanfront, the Fontai-nebleau is regarded as the crown jewel of Miami Beach resorts. The "new" resort will include more than 1,500 luxury rooms and suites, a 40,000 square foot spa, multiple marquee restaurants, a signature nightclub and ultra-lounge, lush poolscape and approximately 200,000 square feet of meeting, convention and ballroom facilities.

"This transaction provides Nakheel with a premier entrance into the Miami resort market, via the world-renowned Fonta-inebleau. We are always seeking to diversify our portfolio and add to our existing investments in North America, Asia and Europe. Miami, as one of the Unites States' major gateways, has been a key target, which we are pleased to have now," said Joe Sita, CEO Nakheel Hotels.

Nakheel Hotels was launched in November 2007 as the new name for Istithmar Hotels after Dubai World consolidated its hotel business under one banner to create a fully integrated hotel investment company. The hotels business now has a global hotel property portfolio worth $3 billion.

[futuresooner]

So how is Met 2 coming along? I suspect Met3 will not happen until the market improves. Actually, how is the whole development coming along, I think Met1 is open for occupancy.

[Complex01]

Great shots. Still lots happening. I really wanted Met 3 to happen, it was and still will look awesome...




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[Juan_M2118]

for some reason i think that miami is so similar to chicago, i mean both cities have very modern buildings, a river, BAYSIDE would compare to navy pier, only navi pier is WAY better. The american airlines arena can sometimes be like the united center. I dont know, but their skylines are similar, only chicago has way more buildings, and WAY TALLER ones too,, but i just hink they are??? what do people think???

[NewAtlantisMiami]

Originally Posted by futuresooner

So how is Met 2 coming along? I suspect Met3 will not happen until the market improves. Actually, how is the whole development coming along, I think Met1 is open for occupancy.

When I spoke with the sales office of Met3 in December, they said they were starting construction in the first quarter of 2008, and there is activity on the site that looks like the beginning of foundation work. One of the other Miami forumers on SkyscraperCity said that one of the sales ladies told him they were scaling it down, but I don't know how true that is because then they would have to start all over from scratch with sales. I'm sure a lot of the sales they made were with the upper floors where the great views of Miami would be, so we will see. You can never really be sure what you're going to get until a building actually tops.

[NewAtlantisMiami]

Originally Posted by Juan_M2118

for some reason i think that miami is so similar to chicago, i mean both cities have very modern buildings, a river, BAYSIDE would compare to navy pier, only navi pier is WAY better. The american airlines arena can sometimes be like the united center. I dont know, but their skylines are similar, only chicago has way more buildings, and WAY TALLER ones too,, but i just hink they are??? what do people think???

Many of us feel this way. The city really is shaping up to be a smaller version of Chicago. We have a long linear skyline spread along Biscayne Bay just as Chicago's skyline is long and linear along Lake Michigan, and we have skyscrapers along the Miami River just as Chicago has skyscrapers along the Chicago River. Having lived in California, I think Miami is a lot like a smaller version of L.A. as well, so it really is going to be a cross between the two I think, and crossing Biscayne Bay from South Beach reminds of crossing the San Francisco Trans Bay Bridge from Oakland into downtown San Francisco. So I thinik Miami is going to be a cross between these three cities. Miami is definitely more like California than any other east coast city and our mayor views Chicago as the model for what he wants Miami to be.

[Juan_M2118]

Originally Posted by NewAtlantisMiami

Many of us feel this way. The city really is shaping up to be a smaller version of Chicago. We have a long linear skyline spread along Biscayne Bay just as Chicago's skyline is long and linear along Lake Michigan, and we have skyscrapers along the Miami River just as Chicago has skyscrapers along the Chicago River. Having lived in California, I think Miami is a lot like a smaller version of L.A. as well, so it really is going to be a cross between the two I think, and crossing Biscayne Bay from South Beach reminds of crossing the San Francisco Trans Bay Bridge from Oakland into downtown San Francisco. So I thinik Miami is going to be a cross between these three cities. Miami is definitely more like California than any other east coast city and our mayor views Chicago as the model for what he wants Miami to be.

You are right, I was raised in chicago, and i recently moved to miami, after going to downtown miami, i realised how its so similar to chicago, especially with all the cranes and buildings made out of glass, soon, I think miami will win over LA, in sense of # of buildings, I think its going to be
1.New York
2.Chicago
3.MIami (number of buildings, not how big it is, because of course LA is way bigger than miami
But yes miami is similar to LA, especially with the weather, and the palm trees
Thanks!!!

[Siriusly]

Originally Posted by Juan_M2118

for some reason i think that miami is so similar to chicago

Originally Posted by NewAtlantisMiami

Many of us feel this way. The city really is shaping up to be a smaller version of Chicago.

I don't see the similarity:









Maybe in this one:

[VisionMIA]

Ah yes!LOL!!! poor trees! I remember that photo. one of my favorites..

and yeah there is similarities but can't compare Miami to Chicago...
only in the fact that both cities are on the edge of land with a river rippin through..but Miami has come a long way in that pic. to think that 75% of Miami's buildings are no more than 4 years old is amazing.. and It's already almost half the size of Chicago..Miami has come a long way from what is was 4 years ago.. and in that pic of Miami you can clearly see that.

[NewAtlantisMiami]

Originally Posted by VisionMIA

Ah yes!LOL!!! poor trees! I remember that photo. one of my favorites..

and yeah there is similarities but can't compare Miami to Chicago...
only in the fact that both cities are on the edge of land with a river rippin through..but Miami has come a long way in that pic. to think that 75% of Miami's buildings are no more than 4 years old is amazing.. and It's already almost half the size of Chicago..Miami has come a long way from what is was 4 years ago.. and in that pic of Miami you can clearly see that.

I think the two cities are similar in the way that I said, if not much more than that. And I do see those similarities somewhat in those two great pictures of each city above. WOW! Thanks! Some other people see other similarities at ground level.

[Siriusly]

Originally Posted by VisionMIA

It's already almost half the size of Chicago.

Half the size how? Skyline? Judging from the two examples, I would say it's about a quarter of Chicago.


Miami is definitely America's Dubai though when it comes to the pace of growth, congrats, but how come no supertalls?

[NewAtlantisMiami]

Originally Posted by Juan_M2118

You are right, I was raised in chicago, and i recently moved to miami, after going to downtown miami, i realised how its so similar to chicago, especially with all the cranes and buildings made out of glass, soon, I think miami will win over LA, in sense of # of buildings, I think its going to be
1.New York
2.Chicago
3.MIami (number of buildings, not how big it is, because of course LA is way bigger than miami
But yes miami is similar to LA, especially with the weather, and the palm trees
Thanks!!!

Miami's area is 36 sq miles while Los Angeles is 469 sq miles in area, but it terms of the number of buildings that have made it to construction thus far, that you can't even see in a photo yet because they have not yet gone vertical, Miami is already 3rd. That is how big our most recent boom was. And yes, we are also similar to L.A. with regard to the Hispanic influence as well as the film industry influence. I have not lived in Chicago to compare both cities at ground level as Juan-M2118 has, but I have lived in Los Angeles and I do Find Los Angeles and Miami to be similar. Miami is going to be a smaller cross between Los Angeles and Chicago.

[NewAtlantisMiami]

Originally Posted by Siriusly

Half the size how? Skyline? Judging from the two examples, I would say it's about a quarter of Chicago.


Miami is definitely America's Dubai though, congrats, but how come no supertalls?

You are probably right that it is more like a quarter of the size of Chicago from that pic, but we do have supertalls in the plannning stages, two of which visionMia and I feature in our avatars, the twin Empire World towers. The developer says he will build them in the next five years if the market wants them. There are also skyscrapers off to the left that are not in this picture, and we have more planned to the left of that picture that will make the skyline even longer. One Bayfront Plaza is another supertall that is planned to be our signature building. It will look like the Chrysler building with a Dubai twist to it.

[Siriusly]

Originally Posted by NewAtlantisMiami

You are probably right that it is more like a quarter of the size of Chicago from that pic, but we do have supertalls in the plannning stages, two of which visionMia and I feature in our avatars, the twin Empire World towers. The developer says he will build them in the next five years if the market wants them. There are also skyscrapers off to the left that are not in this picture, and we have more planned to the left of that picture that will make the skyline even longer. One Bayfront Plaza is another supertall that is planned to be our signature building. It will look like the Chrysler building with a Dubai twist to it.

That's good to hear about the future supertalls on their way. I always thought Miami would be perfect to become the Chicago/Manhattan of the South, years ago I thought that it would be Atlanta...

[NewAtlantisMiami]

Originally Posted by Siriusly

That's good to hear about the future supertalls on their way. I always thought Miami would be perfect to become the Chicago/Manhattan of the South, years ago I thought that it would be Atlanta...

It is certainly on the way to becoming what I call the Subtropical New York and the Chicago of the South. Private message me with an email address, and I will send you some of my favorite pics of the new Miami that I've copied for my files.