Regina Construction III

[Stormer]

I don't think the CBC building is ugly at all. Interesting that much of it is up for lease:

http://www.cushmanwakefieldregina.com/wp...CBC-Office-Building-Regina-June-2017.pdf

I do not see a big difference between CBC being on the fringes of the Park and Conexus, for example. CBC may be a Crown, but it is also commercial enterprise that competes with the private sector. I do not think SaskPower, SaskTel or SaskEnergy should be in the Park, but mostly because they are too large and I want them downtown.

[Missinglink]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

The only reason the CBC is being brought up is because its a common target of right-wing attacks and conspiracy theories. It really has nothing to do with this conversation, even if I did agree the building is ugly (i.e. two wrongs don't make a right).

Unlike you I have absolutely no allegiances to any politician. My only statement is that the park should be for green space and that only. You take offence when your special interest is attacked. So please explain how does the CBC get a pass, as I'm not in favour of any construction where do you get two wrongs. I just simply pointed out that the CBC should never been built there but you think its just ducky. One wrong doesn't make it right.

[pappcam]

Originally Posted by Stormer

I don't think the CBC building is ugly at all. Interesting that much of it is up for lease:

http://www.cushmanwakefieldregina.com/wp...CBC-Office-Building-Regina-June-2017.pdf

Interesting. I demand only tenants with socialist values be allowed there. We can't have the tentacles of capitalism tightening their grip on our large concrete office building on a major road on the edge of our park.

[NOD_Born]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I have no allegiances to any politician. I follow my values and don't put labels on myself though I definitely lean left. I also have no allegiances to the CBC or any particular news source. I believe getting your news from a variety of sources is the best way to be informed. What I do have an allegiance to is critical thinking and to facts. Most of the hate I hear against the CBC from the right is not at all supported by facts or reason and as such, I am happy to call it out. Seriously though, WTF does the CBC have to do with this Brandt deal? It has absolutely nothing logical to add to this conversation. The CBC building is already there. Funny how all this talk about how it too doesn't belong in the park was only brought up after the Brandt and Conexus development scandals...

Literally signed up for an account to point out that CBC DEFINITELY contributes to culture in Regina, which is a key pillar of the "5 Guiding Principles" of the park. Programming, documentaries, involvement in the community.. etc. They are an active champion, platform, and content contributor to local culture.

As per CBC's mandate: "actively contribute to the flow and exchange of cultural expression, "

THAT, is why the CBC building shouldn't bother local citizens, and how it is completely different, even from CNIB's presence in the park (which probably shouldn't be there in the first place).

[NotToScale]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I don't see the CBC covering too many left-wing pieces like we are seeing coming out of the new crop of Democrats in the US, like free college tuition, pharmacare, Green new deal, taxing the wealthy more, etc. I also didn't see the recent truck convoy story covered very accurately, especially its pathetically small size and their clearly racist and conspiracy-theory/anti-"globalist" roots. Remember, the CBC has to appeal to conservatives to try and stave off the inevitable funding cuts if they take office. But if you want to keep believing the right-wing memes/propaganda, be my guest. CBC isn't perfect, but its nice to have another option for traditional media that isn't corporate-controlled and blatantly right-wing (remember when Leader-Post/Star-Phoenix/etc. ran full-front-page ads with a bright yellow background warning everyone about voting for the Liberals in the last federal election?).

haha I don't base my thoughts on memes... but great rant though.

[Missinglink]

Originally Posted by NOD_Born

Literally signed up for an account to point out that CBC DEFINITELY contributes to culture in Regina, which is a key pillar of the "5 Guiding Principles" of the park. Programming, documentaries, involvement in the community.. etc. They are an active champion, platform, and content contributor to local culture.

As per CBC's mandate: "actively contribute to the flow and exchange of cultural expression, "

THAT, is why the CBC building shouldn't bother local citizens, and how it is completely different, even from CNIB's presence in the park (which probably shouldn't be there in the first place).

So what does the CBC mandate according to you have to do with taking up what was green space in the park? Would this not have been doable say across the street? Were they not doing that when they were downtown?
Sorry just because they are your pet corporation doesn't give them a pass. It wasn't right when they built then and it doesn't make it right now. And trust me if this forum or the internet had existed then many would have been protesting it just like the current projects.

On one hand there is a group that say they are against these current developments but when its one of their pet causes it fine. Sorry that don't
work either its a park for green space or its not. Quit being phonies. And anybody who wants to paint me with a political brush couldn't be more wrong, as I'm about a green park and that's it.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

I wonder if the city completing the new paved walking path from Mosaic to downtown is apart of the 2020 Grey Cup bid proposal? I hope so!

[Rodo Regina Lover]

How about a restaurant on the 4th floor of the Brandt "tower",( love it when people call a 4 story building a "tower"!) overlooking the lake, park and Leg with floor to ceiling windows? It would have stunning views not available anywhere else in the city! Bet you ALL would be pretty proud to take out of town visitors there! As to the amount of people out to these protests to these projects if that all you can muster I say that about says what the rest of us feel about this situation!! If the residence of this city were truly so against what's happening there would thousands out protesting not the hand full you see now!!

[LittleBoy]

Originally Posted by Rodo Regina Lover

]If the residence of this city were truly so against what's happening there would thousands out protesting not the hand full you see now!!

This is incredibly stupid and you are so out of touch. People in North America, and specifically Canada are extremely apprehensive to protest anything, and the size of a protest is not indicative of how the general public feels about something.

If this were France or another country where protests are common and publicly supported maybe I would agree, but people in Saskatchewan won't protest extremely important things, let alone a Wascana Park project. Just because people don't want to go protest in -30 degree weather doesn't mean they aren't passionate about something.

Also, governments in Canada (mostly Provincial) don't listen to citizens of Regina, hence the construction of the Bypass, Mosaic Stadium, and the GTH despite significant public pressure otherwise. Why would I waste my energy protesting something that has already been decided and won't be affected by public outcry.

[Rodo Regina Lover]

Well that's ONLY your opinion on why the people of thiscity are not out on mass protesting this situation and ONLY your opinion! And I don't appreciate u calling my opinion stupid just because u don't agree with it!

[LittleBoy]

Originally Posted by Rodo Regina Lover

Well that's ONLY your opinion on why the people of thiscity are not out on mass protesting this situation and ONLY your opinion! And I don't appreciate u calling my opinion stupid just because u don't agree with it!

Perhaps I was too abrupt but your logic and expectations are completely out of proportion. Good luck finding thousands of people to protest anything in Regina.

The Occupy Toronto movement had around 3000 protestors, and the Occupy Ottawa movement had about 800 protestors. These two protests were centered around economic equality and corporate greed.

The Justice For Our Stolen Children Camp had only a couple hundred protestors at its peak, and focused around systematic racism and recent racial issues.

You really think that a protest about Wascana Park construction in the middle of winter in Regina is going to get thousands of participants?

Frankly, the fact that there even was a protest says a lot, and the clear disapproval from multiple posters in this thread speaks wonders.

[pappcam]

Originally Posted by LittleBoy

Perhaps I was too abrupt but your logic and expectations are completely out of proportion. Good luck finding thousands of people to protest anything in Regina.

The Occupy Toronto movement had around 3000 protestors, and the Occupy Ottawa movement had about 800 protestors. These two protests were centered around economic equality and corporate greed.

The Justice For Our Stolen Children Camp had only a couple hundred protestors at its peak, and focused around systematic racism and recent racial issues.

You really think that a protest about Wascana Park construction in the middle of winter in Regina is going to get thousands of participants?

Frankly, the fact that there even was a protest says a lot, and the clear disapproval from multiple posters in this thread speaks wonders.

Lol. You'll notice the loudest protesters in here all lean a certain way politically. Anyway, the anonymous internet isn't a gauge of anything.

[Festivus]

Also let's be real, there isn't going to be a restaurant in the building, it's likely going to be medical offices or something similar.

[LittleBoy]

Originally Posted by pappcam

Lol. You'll notice the loudest protesters in here all lean a certain way politically. Anyway, the anonymous internet isn't a gauge of anything.

Can everyone just grow tf up and stop playing these stupid political binaries? How about we actually discuss the points and merits of something like adults instead of refining it down to how you decided to vote? I'm genuinely interested in both sides of this debate and I think we could all benefit from a more neutral, apolitical viewpoint.

[pappcam]

Originally Posted by LittleBoy

Can everyone just grow tf up and stop playing these stupid political binaries? How about we actually discuss the points and merits of something like adults instead of refining it down to how you decided to vote? I'm genuinely interested in both sides of this debate and I think we could all benefit from a more neutral, apolitical viewpoint.

OK. The CNIB is getting a nice new office building exactly where their old one was and it's not costing anyone a dime. That sounds fine to me. I don't buy the slippery slope argument at all. I'm quite sure that the PCC understands how people feel about the park and infringing anymore than they have won't fly.

[pappcam]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

Lol you contradicted yourself in two sentences. Typical for a hyer-partisan dinosaur from Riderfans who think they represent the prevailing opinion.

Lol. Stay on topic.

[NOD_Born]

Originally Posted by Missinglink

So what does the CBC mandate according to you have to do with taking up what was green space in the park? Would this not have been doable say across the street? Were they not doing that when they were downtown?
Sorry just because they are your pet corporation doesn't give them a pass. It wasn't right when they built then and it doesn't make it right now. And trust me if this forum or the internet had existed then many would have been protesting it just like the current projects.

On one hand there is a group that say they are against these current developments but when its one of their pet causes it fine. Sorry that don't
work either its a park for green space or its not. Quit being phonies. And anybody who wants to paint me with a political brush couldn't be more wrong, as I'm about a green park and that's it.

LOL. Phony here.

The idea is that as long as the CBC development falls within the agreed upon scope (cultural), that there would be merit to them being built in the park. You can debate if those "5 key guiding principles" of the park are proper, or if you would rather see NO development at all (which it sounds like you are advocating for), but within that framework, you can make a decent argument for that building being built (and I personally believe it does contribute to those principles).

Most people here aren't against development within the park. Like, if they're gonna build a new University building, museum, recreational sport facility, etc, I don't think you'll see a lot of people protesting (maybe you will?). I'd argue that most people are in favour of facilities that contribute to those guiding principles. It's just dumb that a committee developed a number of principles, and then the provincial government decides that they can just totally disregard them at their whim to skirt their financial responsibilities (maintenance of the College Avenue Campus) or to give their donors a nice gift / revenue opportunities.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time

I wonder if the city completing the new paved walking path from Mosaic to downtown is apart of the 2020 Grey Cup bid proposal? I hope so!

That would be awesome, although they are really touting the all in one venue thing. Everything will be at Evraz place from concerts to team host parties. There is still a need for the path though as people will want to visit downtown restaurants and will be staying at hotels. At least we will have Uber and Lyft this time.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

Originally Posted by Stormer

That would be awesome, although they are really touting the all in one venue thing. Everything will be at Evraz place from concerts to team host parties. There is still a need for the path though as people will want to visit downtown restaurants and will be staying at hotels. At least we will have Uber and Lyft this time.

Does the new Mosaic Stadium have an Uber/Lyft drop-off/pickup spot in its planning?

[pappcam]

Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time

Does the new Mosaic Stadium have an Uber/Lyft drop-off/pickup spot in its planning?

Why would it? Uber wasn't even on the map for Regina when it was built. Does Mosaic even have a cab stand at all? If they do I assume that's where Uber or Lyft will be.