Stadiums & Arenas of Canada, Part 3

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by drew

^ big stadium music tours are pretty rare these days. And the Bell Centre is a massive indoor facility in it's own right (close to 20k for concerts)

Between one-off sporting events - Rugby, men's and women's soccer, etc,- and concerts, Vancouver hosts around 20 events per year. That's on top of the 10 Lions games and 18 - 20 Whitecap games per year. There are also the Trade Shows.

Vancouver already has 7 concerts booked this year with potentially more to come. I think they had 7-8 last year.

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

The stadium replaced the 60 year old Winnipeg Stadium, which needed replacing. Price tag? $200 million. So we get a CFL team, University teams, the occasional heritage NHL game, and a few special events. They also host the Valour FC. The stadium also was host to the Grey Cup game once, and they plan on doing it again in 2025.

I'm not sure you are thinking this clear, since Olympic Stadium has been full of structural problems, and costs probably close $2.7 billion when the roof is completed, as opposed to $210 million at IG Field. Not to mention they only play host to an MLS Soccer team, as well as the occasional CFL playoff game in Montreal.

Not sure where you get the idea the stadium was going to attract 3-4 concerts per year, but just like the old stadium, it hosting one or two per year. We also hosted the Women's FIFA tourney in 2015.

This was a direct quote from a higher-up in the Bomber organization when the stadium was being constructed - 3 - 4 concerts per year. I remember it quite clearly...reading it in the Free Press. Of course, the stadium was needed regardless of what grandiose claims were made as the old one was in need of replacement 10 years earlier. By the way, it cost closer to $240 million after necessary alterations were made thanks to hiring an architect with no experience designing stadiums.

My point is selling this nearly $1 billion roof replacement is not going to lead to some sort of sudden boom in concerts, sports and trade shows compared to 10 - 20 years ago. It will likely lead to a similar number of events per year at Olympic Stadium as occurred in 2000- 2010 or 2015. Nothing to write home about...

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by thurmas

In this interview from yesterday in french on rdi with the quebec tourism minister and head of the olympic park they intend to try and attract pro teams as tenants of the big o once the renovation is complete. I know the Alouettes lease ends in 2027 at McGill they may need to move back to the big O if it can provide suite revenue and has the lower bowl renovation and use it like the Lions do at BC place so they can compete with Hamilton and Ottawa revenue wise as Molson is so bare bones.

Here is the interview:

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/info/vid...inistre-proulx

I guess they forget the Als nearly folded while playing at the stadium 25 years ago mainly due to the distance from downtown and lack of intimacy in the dome. A new roof doesn't change those factors.

[northernlights99]

Lego needs to Resign over this. $ 870 million, a complete waste of money. Disrespect to taxpayers. I will start a Recall petition. This is a stupid proposal. Close the Stadium for Four years ? Are you serious ?
Was someone drunk when they proposed this idea ? First off, look at the roof, how will it hold snow ? It will cave in. It looks like the roof on So Fi Stadium in Los Angeles ! Rudiculous ! In our winter weather ??? All you have to do is Reinforce the concrete overhang and do some other improvements and you have a perfectly suitable Open air stadium that can be used April to October and save taxpayers half a billion dollars. Instead we have to deal with this stupid Pie in the Sky proposal ! Now there is No chance Taylor Swift will return to Montreal. If they were just to reinforce the technical ring and do some more 'lipstick' improvements we could have this show next summer. Of course the Mayor is happy with it, she received hush money from Lego to say nice things about this stupid idea. This Government has to go. Look how they treated the Teachers and Nurses during those negotiations and all along they were planning on wasting $ 870 million on this goofball roof proposal ? At what point did Lego sign off on this ? Did he sign off on this garbage while negotiating with the teachers and nurses ? Is this why there was no quick contract resolution ? So he withholds money from teachers and nurses and all along he had this plan to blow A Billion on a roof and eliminate any possibility Taylor Swift can come here. No wonder the strikes went on so long. This is pretty underhanded. This has to bring down the Government. What a debacle. Would you help me with this petition ? And can the next Government cancel this proposal ? This Government has to go. The Premier must Resign over this. Close the Stadium for Four years ? I heard it mentioned this would be done in Three phases. Why can't they just take off thay pathetic roof they have now and reinforce the ring and have events there next year ? Complete mismanagement. How do I start a Recall petition ? Legault has to go over this. Disgusting.

[steve61]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

Lego needs to Resign over this. $ 870 million, a complete waste of money. Disrespect to taxpayers. I will start a Recall petition. This is a stupid decision. Close the Stadium for Four years ? Are you serious ?
Was someone drunk when they proposed this idea ? First off, look at the roof, how will it hold snow ? It will cave in. All you have to do is reinforce the concrete overhang and do some other improvements and you have a perfectly suitable Open air stadium that can be used April to October and save taxpayers half a billion dollars, instead we have to deal with this stupid Pie in the Sky proposal ! Now there is no chance Taylor Swift will return to Montreal. If they were just to reinforce the technical ring and do some more 'lipstick' improvements we could have this show next summer. Of course the Mayor is happy with it, she received hush money from Lego to say nice things about this stupid idea. This Government has to go. Look how they treated the teachers and nurses during those negotiations and all along they were planning on wasting $ 870 million on this goofball roof proposal ? At what point did Lego sign off on this ? Did he sign off on this garbage while negotiating with the teachers and nurses ? Is this why there was no quick contract resolution ? So he withholds money from teachers and nurses and all along he had this plan to blow A Billion on a roof and eliminate any possibility Taylor Swift can come here. No wonder the strikes went on so long. This is pretty underhanded. This has to bring down the Government. What a debacle. Would you help me with this petition ? And can the next Government cancel this proposal ?

What's with the Taylor Swift angle on every second post in this thread? I'm hoping you're not serious and it's some kind of schtick but either way it's getting a bit tired.

[Djeffery]

I started playing the Lego Taylor Swift drinking game anh gjo owsa WJmnbg ajdhhyk....

[northernlights99]

What's the point of this expense if you can't have the Big concert next year ? She won't be touring like this in 4 years.

This was our window of opportunity. Now with stadium being closed for 4 years, she won't come.

As for the rinky dinky CFL, I doubt the League will even be around in 4 years. They are so weak financially they had to cancel a whole season over covid, couldn't afford to play without ticket revenue.

Taylor Swift earns more money in ONE show than all the CFL teams are collectively worth.

What is with this Obsession there needs to be a Complete roof ?

As I've preached before, this Stadium was Open air for 11 years from 1976 to 1987, it worked then as a fine Open air venue.

Why can't it now ?

It can work as an Open air venue, you just need to put the effort into marketing it as a fantastic summer venue and stop with these mindless proposals of glass roofs.

For the extra amount of money that this translucent roof will cost, keep Olympic as Open air and with that money you save keeping the opening open, replace the seats, lights, sound system, upgrade the concourses, etc.

And Re open the stadium for 2025 with a repaired partial roof, as should be done. Not this idiocy of closing for 4 years.

This roof is an idiotic proposal. The glass can crack and shatter under snow load. Look what's happening in the Maritimes right now. You want to run that risk ?

What works for So Fi stadium in Los Angeles doesn't work here in winter. What nutcase dreamed up this glass roof proposal ? And Cabinet embraces this ?

Furthermore, what is this about the roof lasting 50 years ? The stadium is already almost 50 years years old.

Are we supposed to believe the structure will still be standing in 2074 ? STOP marketing the roof as being good Only cause it will last 50 years. It is a bad idea. The stadium needs to be opened for next year.

It was suggested that we will look through this roof and see stars at night ? With lights on in the stadium how do you expect to see stars ?

All of this is complete idiocy. The Government is treating us as fools.

Legault needs to go.

[Tvisforme]

Originally Posted by steve61

What's with the Taylor Swift angle on every second post in this thread? I'm hoping you're not serious and it's some kind of schtick but either way it's getting a bit tired.

Getting???

Originally Posted by northernlights99

What's the point of this expense if you can't have the Big concert next year ? She won't be touring like this in 4 years.

This was our window of opportunity. Now with stadium being closed for 4 years, she won't come....

Why did you even bother with the rest of this post, everyone knows it's all about Ms Swift with you.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

As for the rinky dinky CFL, I doubt the League will even be around in 4 years. They are so weak financially they had to cancel a whole season over covid, couldn't afford to play without ticket revenue.

Taylor Swift earns more money in ONE show than all the CFL teams are collectively worth.

That's the second time, you've thrown that in. This account appears out of nowhere, changes its name, looks like it was thrown together by AI at first (before it gets called out) and keeps going if for no other reason than to antagonize the posters in the thread. Still looks like one big troll op to me.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by steve61

What's with the Taylor Swift angle on every second post in this thread?

She snubbed Celine at the Granny Rewards, it's all over in Quebec for her now. A phony after show picture won't fix it either.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

except it will cost an 'estimated' Half a Billion anti-heros to demolish the Stadium (roof and bowl) section by section, and then you have NO Large stadium left (which itself is a problem), so Cabinet is facing a damned if you do, damned if you don't, either way the decision they make won't be popular with many people.

What does the bolded part mean? I googled it and got a predictable result, is that all part of the troll?

[elly63]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

Lego needs to Resign over this. $ 870 million, a complete waste of money. Disrespect to taxpayers. I will start a Recall petition. This is a stupid proposal. Close the Stadium for Four years ?

They do that in California not Canada

[northernlights99]

maybe you should learn how to spell, its Not the Granny Awards, it's spelled Grammy, shows how much interest you have in music.

Originally Posted by elly63

She snubbed Celine at the Granny Rewards, it's all over in Quebec for her now. A phony after show picture won't fix it either.

Why do we need a roof to last 50 years when the Stadium has about 20 years left ?

The "budget breakdown" allocates 30 % for dealing with the current roof, why can't this work be accomplished in 12 to 18 months ? Then have the next phase happen after 2025.

And can the writer not Add properly ? 18 plus 12 plus 69 is 99 per cent, not 100 per cent. Likely has a fetish for the number 69 :

The new design features a fixed roof with a translucent strip and a skylight, enhancing the stadium’s aesthetic appeal and functionality. The project’s budget breakdown includes 18% for dismantling the old roof, 12% for constructing the technical ring, and 69% allocated for the assembly and installation of the new roof. The new roof is expected to last 50 years.

https://tnc.news/2024/02/06/taxpayer...reals-stadium/

anyone think this roof will actually happen ? I don't.

[harls]

I hope Taylor Swift reads this thread.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

As for the rinky dinky CFL, I doubt the League will even be around in 4 years. They are so weak financially they had to cancel a whole season over covid, couldn't afford to play without ticket revenue.

Doubt the CFL will be around in 4 years? Pretty dumb stupid prediction. To think the CFL has been around for so long, was able to withstand a lost season due to pandemic, and bounces back if not better than before the pandemic. Call it a rinky dink, it’s a great league full of great players that’s one of very few institutions that unites this country.

[Oilkountry]

Absolutely embarrassing news coming out of Montreal

I cannot be more clear when I say the mismanagement of public funds in that city and province is utterly embarrassing.

They could build 5 tim hortons fields for the same price they are paying for a Fking roof to a 50 year old tenantless stadium. This budget will swell over 1.2Billion. 1 disaster after another for Quebec. NHL arena in quebec city for a team that was never coming. And now Billion dollar reno for a billion dollar white elephant....and the only difference is you will see some natural lighting....holy christ....Enjoy your view of the tower from your 50 year old seats.

Most expensive stadium budgeting in the country and you got a 100 year old concrete high school set of grandstands for the CFL (worst in its league), A base model honda civic with 2 different colour fenders of a soccer stadium (worst in its league) and an outdated ugly monstrosity that serves no purpose for the community either than this internal sense of pride by city councilors at the price of....2.2 Billion if it comes in on budget....What an absolute joke for Montreal, I hope the public revolts at the thought of this catastrophic failure and the city retracts this ridiculous use of public funds for their billion dollar boat show bunker

An stfu about taylor swift

[elly63]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

anyone think this roof will actually happen ? I don't.

Anyone think you'll stop this whack troll, I don't. What happened to your California Recall did you forget it at the Granny Rewards.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

Why do we need a roof to last 50 years when the Stadium has about 20 years left ?

Maybe you should go back to the automation and teach it how to punctuate. There's no space between the last letter of a word and a question mark.

Also someone should inform the Rose Bowl, USC and Berlin Stadiums that they should have crumbled 30 years ago according to your ignorance.

[Oilkountry]

Originally Posted by elly63

Not until they can get the seats closer to the field and reduce capacity for ticket scarcity. It was earlier discussed if there could be a stadium within a stadium, ie temp seats like Empire Stadium.

Despite the crazy cost, and I have wavered on this, I think it is a good idea. This is an iconic structure, it is to Montreal what the Eiffel Tower is to Paris. I think from what little I have learned so far that the design is right. I think the four years of anticipation will create a goodwill and the former sense of failure will be replace by a pride in the structure. BC did it and they did it right, no reason why Montreal can't. This is also a part of revitalizing that section of town not just the stadium. I think it will work.

You did not just compare the Eiffel tower to the big O. People journey from all over the world to see the tower, Nobody comes/has come/will come to Montreal to see that stadium, Nobody....its never happened in history ever and will continue that legacy

BC did it yes, For significantly less money....WITH 2 FULLTIME TENANTS...And it was a full Stadium Renovation, Every corner of the fan experience was renewed. This is a roof....A roof that costs almost as much as an NFL stadium, A roof that costs triple the Rogers Centre reno budget

Iconic Structure

What planet do you live on? Nobody Outside of Montreal could tell you what country that stadium is in...period

They would have been much better to come out with a 1.2 Billion plan and said they would renew the stadium completely. The public would have been a little more understanding than just "hey were gonna stab a sunroof in this crown victoria and call it a mustang"

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

You did not just compare the eiffel tower to the big O. People journey from all over the world to see the tower nobody comes to montreal to see that stadium, Nobody....its never happened in history

BC did it....For less money....WITH 2 FULLTIME TENANTS AND TOUCHED EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE STADIUM.

First of all using childish emoticons to try and create a convincing argument is lame and obviously childish.

And to deny The Big O as a tourist attraction is as trolling as our AI friend.

Tourisme Montreal

Today, the Olympic Stadium, designed by renowned French architect Roger Taillibert, ranks among Montréal’s top tourist attractions. Its iconic shape with the Montréal Tower – the highest inclined tower in the world – can be seen from far and wide.