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Old Posted Dec 6, 2006, 4:24 PM
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Well, the paper confirmed our suspicions this morning. Prairie Wind is a mere 15 meters tall. The original design called for 35! I am really feeling ripped off as of late.
     
     
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That's no minor discrepancy. What happened to the other 20 meters? We need answers.
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2006, 5:21 PM
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great hoar frost.....the river doesnt freeze in saskatoon?
how is that possible?
Sorry I am so late on this post...it is my first one, and I just read the thread. Answer to your question is pretty simple.
-last year was a warm winter
-usually it does freeze over but does so downstream from south downtown because the QE powerstation uses river water in their process and returns warm/hot water to the river.
-the same can also be said for where the wast treatment plant north of the city returns the treated water to the river.

The steam coming off the water on a cold winter day is quite an eery sight.
     
     
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I happened to be downtown last evening and got to see (from my car) "Prairie Wind" all lit up. Even though I'm still disappointed that the sculpture isn't larger, I have to admit that it looked quite nice with the lighting. What I'm wondering though is if it is covered by graffiti yet or not. I can't imagine a target like that will fare well without getting all marred up fairly quickly.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 7, 2006, 3:33 PM
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/\ I caught a glimpse of it this morning coming over the Vic Bridge. I have to admit it does look quite nice when lit up. I still think it looks kind of sad in the day light.
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Old Posted Dec 7, 2006, 6:25 PM
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***CAVE PERSON ALERT***

High-rise condominium would mar Broadway area
heritage advocate
Pam Cradock, The StarPhoenix
Published: Thursday, December 07, 2006
The Northern Paints building on Broadway Avenue has a rich history worth saving, says the Saskatoon Heritage Society, but some business owners argue replacing the building with a high-rise would improve the area.

The heritage society may be fi ghting a losing battle to preserve the building at the corner of Broadway Avenue and Ninth Street. The zoning for the land already permits high-density residential use and a private developer has drawn up plans for a 12-storey condominium development.

The company had originally planned for 17 or 18 storeys, but scaled back plans due to high construction costs.

Twelve storeys are still too many, said heritage society president Victoria Neufeldt. Neufeldt believes four storeys is the most the area can handle.

Neufeldt is also concerned that the new development requires demolishing the 77-year-old Northern Paints building.

One of fi ve similar structures built by Safeway in 1929, it's now one of three that are still standing, said Neufeldt. Mayfair Drugs on 33rd Street and the Pleasant Hill Bakery occupy the other two buildings, she said.

Architecturally, the building is fi lled with decorative Spanish villa touches, said Neufeldt. She said there are turrets at the roofl ine and clay roof tiles along the facade. The building has Tyndall stone, or "grey stone," that was also used in the creation of parts of the University of Saskatchewan campus, she said.

Neufeldt said much of the building's charm is hidden by siding, while paint has rendered the Tyndall stone unidentifi able. She doesn't know what kinds of repairs are needed, but thinks the structure could be reused or restored.

"But if that's not possible, it needs to be replaced with something that fits in," she said.

According to Neufeldt, rather than fi tting in with the charm of Broadway, the new condo highrise will "cast a shadow" on the neighbourhood. Its height will block the sunlight from residential backyards, she said.

"It (also) sets the precedent for further development of that sort," she said.

But Nutana Cafe owner Norm Thai likes the condo's design and said it will bring more people to the area. As well, the Northern Paints site is ugly, he said.

"It's dead down there," said Thai.

"I think (a new development) will be better for business." Nino Agioritis, owner of Nino's Restaurants, said it was "about time somebody put something (like that) in the area." "Broadway's a nice neighbourhood. It's a great place for (development)," said Agioritis, who's excited about the possibilities the condominium could bring.

The Nutana Community Association will hold an open meeting at 7 p.m. on Jan. 9 to discuss Broadway's zoning, the development and its effects on the surrounding neighbourhoods.

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That's the building they're trying to protect??! Talk about hardcore NIMBYs, that building is ugly!

You guys have to make your opinions heard, or the city might give in to the NIMBYs and BANANAs. I hope you guys get this tower built
     
     
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That's the building they're trying to protect??! Talk about hardcore NIMBYs, that building is ugly!

You guys have to make your opinions heard, or the city might give in to the NIMBYs and BANANAs. I hope you guys get this tower built

I don't believe opposition is actually that strong, it's just they have the ear of the media (or more accurately the Star Phoenix).

Within 4 blocks of this site there already 5 high rises, including two that are 12 stories. The whole out of scale arguement doesn't wash.

The city is growing. Increasing the density of core neoghbourhoods is a no brainer. We can handle it.
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2006, 5:35 AM
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I can't believe Ms. Neufeldt can have her picture taken standing in front of that horrific looking building and be dead serious about saving it. Did she see herself in the paper this morning in front of that disgusting box of a building and realize how ridiculous this is? I doubt it. Flatten the northern paints store. Build the MoB.... PLEASE!!!
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2006, 3:28 PM
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No kidding. Maybe the Star was playing her on that one....

A more sane viewpoint

Northern Paint building not worth the fight
Murray Lyons, The StarPhoenix

Published: Friday, December 08, 2006

Even though I recently watched a Ken Burns documentary on the life and work of renowned architect Frank Lloyd Wright, I realize that doesn't qualify me as an architectural critic.

Nevertheless, it's hard for me to get my head around the idea that the Northern Paint building on Broadway Avenue should somehow be seen as a beloved heritage site. Developers Ken Achs and Karl Miller want to knock it down to build a condominium tower.

Spanish-tile trim from the 1920s Safeway is long gone. The billboards that now sit on top of the building are indicative of how subsequent owners squashed that "heritage." The fact that Mayfair Drugs on 33rd Street, a former Safeway building from the same era, retains most of the original facade suggests there isn't much reason to save a similar building that was long ago modernized.

The other complaint some Broadway residents have is the proposed height of the Achs-Miller condo proposal. There are several apartment and condo towers clustered near Nutana Collegiate and there's the rather disappointing-looking apartment condo building that was put up at Five Corners in the 1980s.

Achs and his young partner, Miller, have shown in the recent past they are respectful of neighbourhood design.

In the meantime, if every squat one-storey building that originally had some decorative trim on it is to be classified as a heritage property, nobody will invest any time, money or effort in renewing the old neighbourhoods of Saskatoon.

As for Safeway's once unique corporate architecture, if you want to fight for a heritage building -- and the only remaining grocery store in the Mayfair-Caswell area -- the Safeway on 33rd Street is probably worth fighting to preserve. It's the only remaining unaltered example in Saskatoon of the early 1960s Safeway arched roof design, incorporating laminated wood beams. The store at Cumberland and Eighth has the same interior, but the distinctive arch on the exterior was hidden by stucco during a later renovation.

How did the heritage groups let that happen?
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2006, 5:41 PM
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She is probably not thinking straight anymore. That is the only rational explanation I can think of. Maybe she needs to be put on some sort of medication so that old brain can functions properly. Trying to save that old ungly building makes as much sence as trying to save an outhouse on my grandfathers farm. Knock the f*$^&#g peace on s@#t down and please build the condo!!

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I can't believe Ms. Neufeldt can have her picture taken standing in front of that horrific looking building and be dead serious about saving it. Did she see herself in the paper this morning in front of that disgusting box of a building and realize how ridiculous this is? I doubt it. Flatten the northern paints store. Build the MoB.... PLEASE!!!
     
     
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Maybe they could incorporate the old pile of s**t into the new design. Keep the lovely facade of the heritage building. Would that make the old battle axe happy?
     
     
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Maybe they could incorporate the old pile of s**t into the new design. Keep the lovely facade of the heritage building. Would that make the old battle axe happy?
now THATS a sexy skyscraper

     
     
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I think I see a new avatar....
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2006, 8:54 PM
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^^LOL, I wish the Star Kleenex could get a hold of that and publish it... Awesome work ReginaGuy!
     
     
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I can't believe Ms. Neufeldt can have her picture taken standing in front of that horrific looking building and be dead serious about saving it. Did she see herself in the paper this morning in front of that disgusting box of a building and realize how ridiculous this is? I doubt it. Flatten the northern paints store. Build the MoB.... PLEASE!!!

I heard much about this fabled historic gem in the "historical architectural loss" thread. I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.

Good luck with your tower Toon town.
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Karl Miller of Meridian Developments said on global news tonight that drawings for the MoB should be ready early january... let's cross our fingers
...i wasnt aware of the townhouses meridian is building by the marr residence on 11th
     
     
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I knew something was going on there. I believe that's a reno, not new townhouses. The building sold a while ago now there are gutting it. I suspected but didn't know for sure that Meridian was involved. I know now. Thanks.
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oh k i guess it may be just a reno but the clip on the news sure made it look like a demo.. they were ripping something down
     
     
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I stand corrected. I just swung by there on the way home and it's half way to rubble now. They'll be starting fresh. Maybe the Villagio experience has shied them away from renos.
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