Urban vs Suburban - 2 styles enter, one style leaves!

[fusili]

Originally Posted by Full Mountain

Be interesting which one would net you more:

3 detached narrows on 24' lots (3x 700k) - 2.1M
2 semi detached & 1 detached (2x 600k, 1x 700k) - 1.9M
2 detached on 36' lots with accessory suites (2x 900k) - 1.8M

Prices are WAG's based on Mt. Pleasant, particularly the last as I don't know of many if any of these that have been built.

You might want to add costs to that.

[Full Mountain]

Originally Posted by fusili

You might want to add costs to that.

Right, those are as you pointed out only the sale prices not any input costs something I'd only be guessing at.

[suburbia]

Happy to learn bylaw enforcement has taken on "unidriveways". Some of these areas were starting to look like green-free stretches of inner city!
http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/122...eways-to-date/

Move your ride or face a fine.

That’s the message Calgary bylaw officers have sent to 63 homeowners, who’ve been found to date with what have been dubbed “unidriveways.”

[Design-mind]

A document given to developers/builders by the CHBA and rammed down our throats. Not sure if the City of Calgary has a similar document showing homeowners where the tax-payers money is going. Page 26 is worth a read.

http://www.smartergrowth.ca/sites/de...great-city.pdf

[Full Mountain]

Originally Posted by Design-mind

A document given to developers/builders by the CHBA and rammed down our throats. Not sure if the City of Calgary has a similar document showing homeowners where the tax-payers money is going. Page 26 is worth a read.

http://www.smartergrowth.ca/sites/de...great-city.pdf

I wonder if a similar levy applies to the addition of homes in the inner city, seems that if you add a door similar impacts would be felt, I doubt that the cost would be the same but I would think that this needs to be considered. I'd like to see a portion of the levy go into a fund that the community could use for improvement projects (tree planting, etc.).

[Riise]

Originally Posted by Full Mountain

I wonder if a similar levy applies to the addition of homes in the inner city, seems that if you add a door similar impacts would be felt, I doubt that the cost would be the same but I would think that this needs to be considered. I'd like to see a portion of the levy go into a fund that the community could use for improvement projects (tree planting, etc.).

Developments in the Centre City pay the Centre City Levy.

[Full Mountain]

Originally Posted by Riise

Developments in the Centre City pay the Centre City Levy.

What about the rest of the inner city (i.e. inner ring suburbs)?

[Spring2008]

I finally found the perfect community for suburbia!!

A gated island in the burbs!


http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...ities-mahogany

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Spring2008

I finally found the perfect community for suburbia!!

A gated island in the burbs!

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...ities-mahogany

You're confused.

[milomilo]

Originally Posted by Spring2008

I finally found the perfect community for suburbia!!

A gated island in the burbs!


http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...ities-mahogany

I don't understand how people can be so paranoid - I've never lived anywhere that feels as safe as Calgary does, especially in the far suburbs.

What are they afraid of?

[Ramsayfarian]

Originally Posted by milomilo

I don't understand how people can be so paranoid - I've never lived anywhere that feels as safe as Calgary does, especially in the far suburbs.

What are they afraid of?

I think this a gated community more for exclusivity than for security.

When you think you're part of the 1%, the last thing you want is the unwashed going for a Sunday drive in your neighbourhood.

[jawagord]

Originally Posted by Ramsayfarian

I think this a gated community more for exclusivity than for security.

When you think you're part of the 1%, the last thing you want is the unwashed going for a Sunday drive in your neighbourhood.

If it had a drawbridge instead I'd buy a lot!

[Ramsayfarian]

Originally Posted by jawagord

If it had a drawbridge instead I'd buy a lot!

Drawbridge and adult only and I would buy a place. Only children allowed would be those employed as help.

[RyLucky]

How do gated communities work for EMS and recycling trucks?

[milomilo]

From the article:

Area kids know it as the street that throws opens its gates every Halloween, and some homes hand out full-sized candy bars. One five-bedroom home with a heated three-car garage on the island is currently listed for sale at $2.5 million.

Full size candy bars, holy shit! These guys must be ballin', freaking rock stars!

[Bigtime]

The Economist weighs in on the suburbs:

http://www.economist.com/suburbs

Discuss.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

The Economist weighs in on the suburbs:

http://www.economist.com/suburbs

Discuss.

I'll need more time to read the entire article, but it looks interesting and the economist is always quite thoughtful about its coverage so I'm looking forward to it. Flipping through quickly, man that photo of Phoenix is sad!

Anyway - a major point I'd like to raise (again, sadly) is that we really need to set terms of reference in discussions like this. Arguably, anything within the ring-road or even the municipal boundary depending on whom you talk to is not suburb in the global sense. When you look at reports from the US, you're generally talking about places an hour out - maybe 40 km from centre. The Chennai example in the report is no different. The suburb they are talking about is Thiruvallur, which is actually not Chennai. Our touchstone would be Cochrane. We speak of these as commuter communities. In the global sense, Calgary would be seen as largely a success, having (till now) limited numbers and magnitude of those commuter communities, what others call suburbs. This is of course changing now, and that's a real shame. I'm within the same ring road that you're within.

[Bigtime]

Very true suburbia, later in the article they touch on Phoenix and I think that is a better comparison than the India one they are using at the beginning of the article. Latter section gets into London and its suburbs.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Very true suburbia, later in the article they touch on Phoenix and I think that is a better comparison than the India one they are using at the beginning of the article. Latter section gets into London and its suburbs.

Looking at the google maps view, the part of Phoenix that is built-up and comparable is 80km east-west by 65km north-south (over 5K sqkm IE 5 times built-up Calgary), and then there are commuter (suburb) communities like Maricopa, Cada Grande, Coolridge, San Tan Valley, Florence, Fountain Hills, way out from there - mostly south and east. Most of these commuter (suburb) communities don't look they have any industry / job market of their own whatsoever.

[DizzyEdge]

This reminds me of a debate I had with someone on facebook this week. He was comparing the map of NYC proper to Calgary, and showing that one had 1.2 million and the other 11 million.

I agree Calgary needs to densify, but the thing is that super dense NYC is the middle of a gigantic metro. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nties_2013.png

A lot of cities get a bye with density because the lowest density portions are 'across the street' in a differently named municipality.