The Great Canadian Skyline Thread! II

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by Doug_Cgy

As far as I'm concerned there's a "Big 2" in Canada, and that BARELY includes Montreal. Vancouver is too far off, population wise, to be lumped in with Toronto, IMO.

Toronto, to me, is the only city in Canada that truly feels BIG. Doesn't take away from how great any other city in the country is though. I'm incredibly happy with Calgary in it's current form/size and don't feel we're any better or worse off from being part of a "big" category or not.

TO 6M 50% larger than Mtl
Mtl 4M 60% larger than Van
Van 2.5M 90% larger than Calgary

[Doug_Cgy]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

TO 6M 50% larger than Mtl
Mtl 4M 60% larger than Van
Van 2.5M 90% larger than Calgary

I wasn't making this a competition. I agree, Calgary should not be lumped in the category. What I'm saying is there's a HUGE difference between a city of 6M and a city of 2.5M. About 3.5M people difference, and it's noticeable.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by kw5150

This is all my fault!!!!!!

I don't see how you figure that? I agree with you entirely, and you can see in my numbers I included the beltline from the start, as it is very much a part of the skyline.

What needed to be corrected were numbers that were deliberately misrepresented to show Vancouver as smaller and Calgary as larger by using one set of parameters for Calgary and one for Vancouver.

Like I said in my first post, both are in the same ballpark, but when someone is dishonestly providing facts I felt like it should be pointed out.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

TO 6M 50% larger than Mtl
Mtl 4M 60% larger than Van
Van 2.5M 90% larger than Calgary

We've done this before. Like 2 weeks ago.

Doug is right, the big 3 is somewhat silly, but it is commonly used. Lets leave it at that.

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by Doug_Cgy

I wasn't making this a competition. I agree, Calgary should not be lumped in the category. What I'm saying is there's a HUGE difference between a city of 6M and a city of 2.5M. About 3.5M people difference, and it's noticeable.

It's not a competition, it's the reality. unpretentious

The big 3 is somewhat silly but it is commonly used. lets leave it at that.

no problem

[Doug_Cgy]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

It's not a competition, it's the reality. unpretentious

Well technically, Metro Van is approx 50-60% larger than Metro Calgary, so it's not reality based on your #'s.

All I'm trying to point out is that in a country as sparsely populated as Canada, it's hard to have a grouping like this AT ALL, as the difference between the first and 3rd is too substantial to be in the same category.

FWIW - I've had amazing experiences in each of the city's in this discussion, and am not trying to start a pissing war. Just want to make that clear...

[GreaterMontréal]

http://www.lesolano.com/les-vues

the huge parking lot in front of gare Viger will likely disappear in 2014.
http://www.mtlurb.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13025&d=1388113637

[niwell]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

How do you figure?

The distance between 14th Street SW and 6 Street SE is over 3 KM, and the distance between Eau Claire Market and 25 Avenue SW is 2.4 KM... how is that overly generous? The Mission skyline shouldn't be excluded just because it's separated by 3 blocks, especially if Vancouver's Broadway and SE False Creek skyline isn't excluded. Even still, Eau Claire to 17th Ave is 1.6 km.

There is no way Mission should be included in Calgary's main skyline IMO. It's several smallish highrises clearly separated from the main cluster. Similarly I would never measure the skyline starting at 14th st just because there are a few outlying buildings - 11th st SW to 3rd or 4th SE seems more realistic. Using that criteria Vancouver gets huge, and who knows how far Toronto (or even Montreal) would extend.

[Calgarian]

Mission is a tough one. There are a couple buildings on the south side of 17th and one or two on 18th that have similar height as most of the Beltline, but then it dies off until you you get to about 23rd where there is some pretty good density again.

[Tone]

I wonder how serious is the Viger project though.

Nice picture!

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by Tone

I wonder how serious is the Viger project though.

Nice picture!

Should start in 2014. $250-275 million

[dleung]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/maps/?cityID=1

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/maps/?cityID=3

Not to be a dick, but....

[ZeDgE]

Originally Posted by Delirium

Montreal is one of those few cities that actually looks good covered in snow. great shot.

here's 3 shades of Vancouver

Photo by Dan Deakin on Flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandeakin/


Photo by Dan Deakin on Flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandeakin/


Photo by Dan Deakin on Flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandeakin/

Close the thread, Vancouver wins.

DAMN

[Calgarian]

I like how you include other areas in Vancouver and it's suburbs but leave the Calgary map just as downtown, way to keep it apples to apples. BTW this isn't about how many highrises are in a city, it's about how many are downtown and what the boundaries of the downtown urban area (with highrises obviously) are.

Everyone knows the GVR is bigger than Metro Calgary, so what's the point?

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

TO 6M 50% larger than Mtl
Mtl 4M 60% larger than Van
Van 2.5M 90% larger than Calgary

How is Van 90% bigger than Calgary when it's only 2 1/2 times the size? By that logic Toronto should be 90% bigger than Montreal too.

[SignalHillHiker]

Originally Posted by ZeDgE

Close the thread, Vancouver wins.

DAMN

Argh, if I had thought of that phrasing first, I'd totally have done it for 20 minutes for a laugh. lol

[middeljohn]

Well, I've got chance to move to move to Calgary next month. It'll be my fourth city in three years (Christ that feels weird to type). Right now I'm in London which is a third the size of Calgary. However my theory is that with London being so close Toronto and Detroit it actually feels bigger than it is due to that proximity. It'll be interesting to see how Calgary feels due to it being so isolated from other large cities. Even Edmonton is 4 hours away - a trip which at the very least takes some planning ahead of time. At the same time, due to that isolation it could very well be that Calgary feels bigger than its size since everything would be centralized there. I'm excited to see, assuming I get the job there.

[middeljohn]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

How is Van 90% bigger than Calgary when it's only 2 1/2 times the size? By that logic Toronto should be 90% bigger than Montreal too.

2.5 - 1.4 = 1.1

1.1 / 1.4 = 0.78 = 78%

So Vancouver is 78% larger than Calgary, not quite 90%

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by middeljohn

Well, I've got chance to move to move to Calgary next month. It'll be my fourth city in three years (Christ that feels weird to type). Right now I'm in London which is a third the size of Calgary. However my theory is that with London being so close Toronto and Detroit it actually feels bigger than it is due to that proximity. It'll be interesting to see how Calgary feels due to it being so isolated from other large cities. Even Edmonton is 4 hours away - a trip which at the very least takes some planning ahead of time. At the same time, due to that isolation it could very well be that Calgary feels bigger than its size since everything would be centralized there. I'm excited to see, assuming I get the job there.

Edmonton is only 3 hours away from Calgary not 4. Unless of course you do 70 on the QE2.

[ZeDgE]

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

Argh, if I had thought of that phrasing first, I'd totally have done it for 20 minutes for a laugh. lol

Haha.