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Old Posted Nov 8, 2006, 3:51 AM
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Great post SASKFTW! Thanks...

I like the idea of eliminating the overpass.... I think it will make the area way more pedestrian friendly. However, I also like the look of the pedestrian ramps in option 2. They remind me of LRT stations in Calgary and Vancouver... More of a big-city look.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2006, 4:14 AM
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thanks SASKFTW...
i like the plan and i think the streetscaping will look great.
ugggh i always hated the toys r us being downtown... it would look more at home in the suburbs BUT if it attracts shoppers downtown thats a good thing. i just wish it fit in a bit better. plus that midtown village on idylwyld and 20th seems to be only used now for office space. that parcel of land could be put to much better use i think (including the toys r us!)
     
     
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It was a pleasure to spread the information.

After careful consideration, I think Option 2, or Option 5 may fit nicely.

Option 2:

Pros:
-No Need to demolish current 1st ave Southbound on ramp to Senator Sid Buckwold Bridge(saves money for the Big City pedestrian structure to be built?)
-Adds unique walkway(as mentioned previously "Big City" feel) to the area
-Allows pedestrians to move freely without waiting for traffic lights to change
-Less contact with automobiles

Cons:
-More Costly than Option 5(increased maintenence,initial construction,???)
-obstructs viewing angles???
-confines pedestrians to specific area

Option 5:
Further developed Option 5:
Pros:
-Increases viewing angles for pedestrians(by demolishing on-ramp and installing traffic signals to control traffic flow from 1st ave SB to Sid's Bridge)
-People must use sidewalks/streets(more vibrant surrounding area?)
-less maintenence costs than option 2(???)

Cons:
-Lose the unique "Big City" feel, to a more traditional form of infrastructure( a subjective arguement, this point could fit under Pro for some people)
-Pedestrians are more likely to be involved in an accident with fast moving traffic???
-Pedestrians are forced to wait for traffic lights
-traffic must wait for pedestrians crossing
-traffic lights would impede vehicle traffic flow at 19th and 1st

Looking at the different aspects of each, it seems some elements are acceptable depending on who you ask(pedestrians or commuters/drivers).

I do enjoy the look and feel of both, the "big city" spiriling pedestrian structures are nice, but the demolishing of the 1st ave SB on ramp and grading/leveling 19th street would also do wonders for the areas image.

It comes down to cost, if the city can save money by doing the less expensive project and putting that money to better use somewhere else(lots of Art) within River Landing, I'd prefer they do that. Unfortunately, cost estimates were not available for each proposal, maybe City/Stantec will release futher information on this issue shortly(I should have asked, I was too busy taking pictures, and listening to the seniors complain to the urban designers, one particular man was complaining about tree'd boulevards on 22nd because it ties traffic up when they have to prune them, give me a break!).

I like option 5, because the feeling of openess is apparent, yay for the Sun! As well I think it's much more pedestrian friendly, and as someone who cycles/walks regularly through downtown automobile traffic/river path pedestrian traffic, it seems the best fit. I hate dodging pedestrians/cyclists when cycling around blind corners, as might be the case with the spiraling structure.

On another note, I have a concern related to Phase II of River Landing, specifically the Terrace seating, and surrounding stage area directly adjacent to Sid's Bridge. I included three pictures of the future terrace and stage area in my post above, and my concern is about traffic noise. I don't see sound attenuation highlighted in the proposal, are they overlooking this, or do they not see this as an issue. If groups/organizations wish to have actual live events hosted at the stage, they will definately be competing with the surrounding noise coming from traffic on the bridge. I'll be mentioning this in my reply to Stantec, and I hope others do the same.

I am quite impressed, and one thing is certain, to experience River Landing in it's entirety will bring/continue the transformation of Saskatoon as a great city.
     
     
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Construction on Persephone Theatre Set to Begin

Written by Linsay Rabyj
Thursday, 09 November 2006

The new 450 seat Persephone Theatre is on track to opening its doors in just over a year.

This week the theatre's Board of Directors approved the overall project.

Artistic Director Tibor Feheregyhazi says all the estimates have arrived and Wright construction has been contracted to do the work.

He says in two weeks the concrete piles will go in then construction of the building will start.

The final price tag is not known but it could be one to two percent higher than the projected total of 11 million.

The grand opening of Persephone's new theatre at River Landing is set for December 2007.

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I think option 5 is fantastic. Nothing divides neighborhoods more than elevated freeways. Even though the Idylwild ramps will still be in place, this will really help open the area up. Plus, by making 1st Ave a two way street, it will bring more traffic down to 19th Street - which is good. The whole River Landing is going to need lot's of people and traffic to be successful. The ped overpasses looks cool, but the one across the freeway ramp probably wouldn't be well used. Those ramps generally don't get used well unless they follow a pedestrians natural travel path (long approach ramps that are in line with where they're going). In other words, all the spiralling ramps add a lot of extra distance. We have some nice ped overpasses down here, and people generally just jay walk across the road beside the overpass because they can't be bothered with all the ramps. That's why I don't push for them in any of my projects.

I'm coming home next week for my sister's wedding, I'm anxious to see how much got built this past summer. I think I'll go see Borat at the new theatre.
     
     
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Hot off the press....

City plans to scrap freeway on-ramp
Downtown business group praises $4.5 million master plan
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Does anyone honestly use those on-ramps much? I have found no practical use for them. Not to mention they just reopened the victoria bridge.

Anyways I have word on a brand new development the city is considering, I'll try and get some info up here soon.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2006, 12:00 AM
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^ I use it from time to time, but an intersection there would not bother me. About your new development, that is just mean to say that! what a tease...
     
     
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hey,
today i was looking over some of the Local Area Plans that the city has prepared for many core neighborhoods. i took particular interest in the LAP for the warehouse district. the details of the warehouse district "master plan" is nothing new to this forum but further discussion can't hurt.

for me, reading the warehouse district LAP excited me. i cant wait to see development and progress in the area take off in the years to come. a catalyst for the development will be the consolidation of the city yards and the 25th street extension (yes... we all knew about this already) however, something i wasnt aware of was the plan to re-locate the bus terminal that is currently at its infamous 23rd st location. i think the removal of the bus station from 23rd would do wonders to improve the reputation of the area. it would great to see a mixed use development replace the bus terminal. ooooh and something big for the midtown plaza parking lot (ok... pure fantasy talking now) and what's this "consolidation" of the city yards? how bout re-locate the entire city yards altogether? hmm and in its place... a downtown stadium, condo developments and all the bells and whistles. haha ok now thats a bit far-fetched but its nice to think about the potential for the area. Potential is something the warehouse district certainly has and i look forward to watching it change in the future (and just maybe some of my "fantasies" for the warehouse district will come true!)
     
     
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Saskatchewanians welcome here -- even the gophers
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Published: Saturday, November 11, 2006

EDMONTON - Gainer the Gopher can check into an Edmonton hotel any time he likes.

The Saskatchewan Roughriders mascot, denied field level access at last weekend's western semifinal in Calgary, is the focus of a new campaign designed to bring more visitors to Edmonton from the neighbouring province.

Ads appearing in Saskatoon and Regina newspapers this weekend carry the message: "Yes! Edmonton hotels are gopher-frendly." The ads are part of winter campaign by Edmonton Tourism and Destination Marketing Hotels of Edmonton that uses the theme: "Edmonton. It's Cooler Here."
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"We want all our friends in Saskatchewan, including Gainer the Gopher, to know they are warmly invited to choose Greater Edmonton as their winter holiday destination," said Ken Fiske, Edmonton Economic Development Corp.'s tourism vice-president. "We hope the campaign ... encourages our neighboring province to take a serious look at our great amenities and attractions."

The campaign is promoting attractions and events in Edmonton, including the Canadian Finals Rodeo, culture and sports.


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Old Posted Nov 12, 2006, 8:36 AM
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hey does anyone know if there are any plans for the continental hotel and the capri across from the galaxy theater? they're a real eyesore
     
     
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hey does anyone know if there are any plans for the continental hotel and the capri across from the galaxy theater? they're a real eyesore
Don't know, but that Old Yale Club/bar, or whatever it is has a for lease/sale sign, who knows??? After enjoying a movie and video games at the Galaxy theater, I wondered why they didn't incorporate a bar into the upstairs seating area, lots of business they would have I am sure, don't know about bylaws and such though???
     
     
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There was a sold sign on the Continental a while ago, but that's since been replaced by the current For Sale/For Lease sign. Perhaps the deal fell through.
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Expression of interest has been released for the third avenue roundabout art installation
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Whoa! I didn't realize they were constructing a roundabout around "Prairie Wind". I thought people were encouraged to walk through, and around "Prairie Wind", I don't think a traffic roundabout is going to encourage that sort of activity. I suppose we should let some cars into the area???
     
     
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"The final award of the commission will be decided by the Jury but the final decision may rest with the City of Saskatoon City Council. The value of the commission will be a maximum $90,000 and this covers all costs associated with the commission." Call For Submission-Third Avenue Roundabout Art Installation
     
     
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Roundabout art

Prairie Wind is located at the end of 2nd Avenue, not 3rd. The 3rd Avenue roundabout is at the foot of the Victoria Bridge.

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Whoa! I didn't realize they were constructing a roundabout around "Prairie Wind". I thought people were encouraged to walk through, and around "Prairie Wind", I don't think a traffic roundabout is going to encourage that sort of activity. I suppose we should let some cars into the area???
     
     
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Prairie Wind is located at the end of 2nd Avenue, not 3rd. The 3rd Avenue roundabout is at the foot of the Victoria Bridge.

Actually I believe a prairie wind will indeed be at the center of a turning circle, at the corner of 2nd and Spadina. The road will be/is paving stones and will ideally be closed frequently and only used by delivery vehicles etc. but it will be an actual road. I forget which councillor it was that gave the impassioned speech about how he would love to be able to 'drive right up to our river bank and see this great development'.

If you stop by the river landing at the end of the victoria bridge you can see the road that goes up to priarie wind, and it does look fairly pedestrian friendly, kindof like a street in granville island or something like that, but still open to cars.
     
     
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Those of us who regularly check in on the Meridian Development website in the faint hope of finding any news on MOB will no doubt have noticed a new line announcing a 'new and improved' website coming in December, 2006. Could an announcement on the long awaited MOB finally be on the horizon, or is this just another teaser from the people that told Swilley a rendering would be released in June?

Time will tell.
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^^^^ By June, I think he meant June 2010.
     
     
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