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Old Posted Nov 23, 2023, 10:28 PM
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Are we sure that the route isn't to Edmonton? It doesn't specifically mention YYC.

Would be cool to see them here nonetheless.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2023, 12:03 AM
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Speaking of Icelandair in a recent media presentation, they listed YYC as a possible 321LR destination.

https://ml-eu.globenewswire.com/Resource/Download/80eaaf3d-6c29-453f-a234-0a4378d44e63
(Its on slide 60/65).
Not exactly. There’s a line that could possibly be pointing to YEG, YYC or even YWG. My bet would be a return to YEG.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2023, 3:40 AM
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Speaking of Icelandair in a recent media presentation, they listed YYC as a possible 321LR destination.

https://ml-eu.globenewswire.com/Resource/Download/80eaaf3d-6c29-453f-a234-0a4378d44e63
(Its on slide 60/65).
Two thoughts:

1. WS starting YYC-KEF (+all the other routes to Europe it serves) will negatively impact the chances of FI starting YYC.

2. FI doesn’t need the A321LR to start YYC. The Max is more than capable of flying the route today.

I see YUL is on there as well. Highly doubt they’re going to come back to Montreal, after recently having exited the market. So I’ll take that map with a grain of salt.

Some other interesting slides on there though. Especially the ones that compare all the airlines based on their EBIT and RASK/CASK ratios. AC seems to be killing it this year!
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2023, 6:13 PM
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Two thoughts:

1. WS starting YYC-KEF (+all the other routes to Europe it serves) will negatively impact the chances of FI starting YYC.

2. FI doesn’t need the A321LR to start YYC. The Max is more than capable of flying the route today.

I see YUL is on there as well. Highly doubt they’re going to come back to Montreal, after recently having exited the market. So I’ll take that map with a grain of salt.

Some other interesting slides on there though. Especially the ones that compare all the airlines based on their EBIT and RASK/CASK ratios. AC seems to be killing it this year!
I indeed agree the chances of FI flying here are pretty slim, hence why I said "possible". The dot could even be YEG, but it seemed a bit too south.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2023, 9:21 PM
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It does seem very south especially when you look at it compared to vancouver and seattle.

If the WS flight does well this year maybe we could see them try to get some action on the route though.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2023, 5:04 AM
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Not exactly. There’s a line that could possibly be pointing to YEG, YYC or even YWG. My bet would be a return to YEG.
Seems way too far away to be YWG. But I can certainly see how it looks like it's YYC (almost at its actual location) or YEG, although they probably wouldn't go head to head with WS now.
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Looks like the AC Ottawa flight is seasonal and not year-round based on the schedule. Wikipedia however seem to refuse to accept that fact, no matter how many times to prove it to them
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2023, 8:21 AM
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WS filed a pretty big S24 schedule update this week. As well as extended its schedule into next winter.

As expected DTW is going daily, ATL going close to double daily. A few surprises too like DEN also going daily too. Will summarize later.

The biggest noteworthy thing is it looks NRT might be going year-round, with the schedule pushed into November at least 2x weekly. BCN also extended into the first 2 weeks of November too like FCO.
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WS booking page shows nothing bookable past 8 October next year, and the schedule doesn't show any of the changes you've mentioned.

Where are you getting your info from?
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2023, 4:10 PM
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WS booking page shows nothing bookable past 8 October next year, and the schedule doesn't show any of the changes you've mentioned.

Where are you getting your info from?
The OAG. You can see the schedule changes using flight view.

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Old Posted Nov 25, 2023, 5:37 PM
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WS filed a pretty big S24 schedule update this week. As well as extended its schedule into next winter.
So looks like it was only modified to June 30. I guess they are updating it in batches now.

*These changes were filed in the OAG / should hit WS booking site later today. They already appear in the GDS via DL codeshares. OAG schedules can viewed here: https://www.flightview.com/flighttracker/ by route & date*

ATL - Up to 2x daily
DTW - 1x daily (Changed to morning dep)
DEN - Up to 1x daily
BNA - Up to 1x daily
PHX - Up to 3x daily
LAS - Up to 4x daily
ORD - Up to 5x weekly
BOS - Up to 5x weekly
AUS - Resumes April 28
IAD - Resumes May 20
SEA - Changed to noon / 19:30 dep
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2023, 10:35 PM
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SEA - Changed to noon / 19:30 dep
Hopefully on the 737 again and not on the Q400!
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2023, 11:39 PM
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Hopefully on the 737 again and not on the Q400!
Yes, SEA is still double daily 737. Even PDX has mainline flights in June too.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2023, 3:34 AM
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Yes, SEA is still double daily 737. Even PDX has mainline flights in June too.
Timed nicely for all the connections to Europe.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2023, 7:39 AM
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So looks like it was only modified to June 30. I guess they are updating it in batches now.

ATL - Up to 2x daily
DTW - 1x daily (Changed to morning dep)
DEN - Up to 1x daily
BNA - Up to 1x daily
PHX - Up to 3x daily
ORD - Up to 1x daily
BOS - Up to 5x weekly
AUS - Resumes April 28
IAD - Resumes May 20 / reduced to 2x weekly
SEA - Changed to noon / 19:30
PDX - 4x weekly 737 mainline added
SFO - Increased to 20x weekly
I’ve corrected this now that’s it’s live in the reservation system.

DTW/BNA/ORD/DEN were all upped to daily. PDX has only 4 weekly 737 flights and still has 2x daily Q400 Encore scheduled. (So there’s 3 daily flights Thu - Sun scheduled).

WS1505 YYC 10:30 - 11:19 PDX 737 4567
WS1500 PDX 12:30 - 15:16 YYC 737 4567
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I’ve corrected this now that’s it’s live in the reservation system.

DTW/BNA/ORD/DEN were all upped to daily. PDX has only 4 weekly 737 flights and still has 2x daily Q400 Encore scheduled. (So there’s 3 daily flights Thu - Sun scheduled).

WS1505 YYC 10:30 - 11:19 PDX 737 4567
WS1500 PDX 12:30 - 15:16 YYC 737 4567
Also looks like PSP reduced to 3x weekly, SAN goes up to 1x daily, and MCO goes 4-5x weekly.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2023, 7:05 PM
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Another interesting new addition for S24. WS 787 Service to LAX.

Effective April 28:
WS1510 YYC 09:20 - 11:23 LAX 789 14567
WS1511 LAX 13:25 - 17:18 YYC 789 14567

There is no frequency change to the route, so it still runs up to 3x daily.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2023, 11:31 PM
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^Ironically enough UA has IAD scheduled randomly Oct. 27-Nov.17 next year. I'm guessing that will get axed in the coming months.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2023, 11:49 PM
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^Ironically enough UA has IAD scheduled randomly Oct. 27-Nov.17 next year. I'm guessing that will get axed in the coming months.
How did IAD do for WS this past summer? I think WS is only scheduling it twice or three times a week next summer.
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I wonder if that discourages them from launching PHL in the future. At least UA hasn't cut the route yet but I wonder why WS hasn't-they've been big on the 'cut everything that doesn't stick' recently
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