1047 Richmond Rd | 112+121m | 36+38f | U/C

[Admiral Nelson]

Originally Posted by RogueNacho

While I greatly appreciate the architecture, am I the only one who thinks this proposal is kind of crummy? I'm really not a fan of how tight they want to pack those 3 tall towers together without much breathing space or height variation. I'd certainly hate to have my apartment within that inside canyon/well and get virtually no sunlight since the southern most tower will block most of the day's light.

Not to pick on this particular project, which is far from the worst offender, but for some reason Ottawa - which is one of the most sprawling, geographically huge cities in Canada - just can't get enough of superdense postage-stamp-sized residential tower concentrations that compromise residents' privacy, views, and access to sunlight.

To its credit, this proposal uses an off-angled tower to reduce the effect. Pity the unfortunate souls living facing their neighbours head-on on the wrong sides of Claridge Plaza 1-4 and SoHo Champagne/Envie. Yeesh, people deserve dignity in where they live

[movebyleap]

Very banal and boring development. That's my opinion and I agree with it!

[905er]

These are really pretty towers.. very nice for Ottawa!

[Ottawacurious]

It'd be interesting to see how the proposal at 100 new orchard (14 stories?) would appear against these.

Is there a site somewhere that does 3D visualizations of all the as-built and proposed buildings for all of Ottawa?

Originally Posted by rocketphish

UDRP Presentation (April 1, 2022)

New Renderings:

[Kitchissippi]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

UDRP Presentation (April 1, 2022)

New Renderings:

This would be way more interesting with a much taller tower in the back and a shorter one on Richmond. A bit of floor swapping:

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Ottawacurious

It'd be interesting to see how the proposal at 100 new orchard (14 stories?) would appear against these.

Is there a site somewhere that does 3D visualizations of all the as-built and proposed buildings for all of Ottawa?

The City of Ottawa and Carleton University are working on that.

[originalmuffins]

Can't wait to see the shovels hit the ground for this one. Definitely one of my most anticipated projects. If all those developments from Bayshore to Carling get built, that'll really make our skyline pop.

[Harley613]

Originally Posted by originalmuffins

Can't wait to see the shovels hit the ground for this one. Definitely one of my most anticipated projects. If all those developments from Bayshore to Carling get built, that'll really make our skyline pop.

If Trinity Centre is scrapped, the three Ambleside projects including this one gets built, the four towers at Bayshore get built, and the tabletop continues across Lebreton, then our Western skyline is going to be more interesting than our Downtown skyline. A variety of heights makes all the difference.

[OTSkyline]

Now we just need to improve the retail, streetscape & pedestrian life in that area.

Would love to see redeveloped high density nodes at both Lincoln Fields & Carlingwood along with a revamped streetscape along that stretch of Carling Ave and the north side of Richmond Rd.

Right now it's too disjointed and a "towers in a park" situation.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Admiral Nelson

Not to pick on this particular project, which is far from the worst offender, but for some reason Ottawa - which is one of the most sprawling, geographically huge cities in Canada - just can't get enough of superdense postage-stamp-sized residential tower concentrations that compromise residents' privacy, views, and access to sunlight.

To its credit, this proposal uses an off-angled tower to reduce the effect. Pity the unfortunate souls living facing their neighbours head-on on the wrong sides of Claridge Plaza 1-4 and SoHo Champagne/Envie. Yeesh, people deserve dignity in where they live

I have lived in the densest tallest part of Ottawa (several different Centretown apartment buildings), and have never understood where this fixation on sunlight comes from, other than an entitled and suburban perspective.

I have never lacked sunlight, I don't know anyone who has, and despite decades of urban exploration in this town, I have yet to find a property or a building which has been cast into the mythologized "perpetual" darkness.

Yes, buildings cast shadows. They do this regardless of how tall they are. However, the earth continues to rotate about its axis.

[silvergate]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

I have lived in the densest tallest part of Ottawa (several different Centretown apartment buildings), and have never understood where this fixation on sunlight comes from, other than an entitled and suburban perspective.

I have never lacked sunlight, I don't know anyone who has, and despite decades of urban exploration in this town, I have yet to find a property or a building which has been cast into the mythologized "perpetual" darkness.

Yes, buildings cast shadows. They do this regardless of how tall they are. However, the earth continues to rotate about its axis.

Used to live in the tower at Laurier and Bay, low level north-facing unit, right across from another highrise. There was...not a lot of sun there, WFH would have been rough.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

Now we just need to improve the retail, streetscape & pedestrian life in that area.

Would love to see redeveloped high density nodes at both Lincoln Fields & Carlingwood along with a revamped streetscape along that stretch of Carling Ave and the north side of Richmond Rd.

Right now it's too disjointed and a "towers in a park" situation.

Richmond needs to lose a lane on the north side, where possible. The current sidewalk hard against the road is pedestrian-hostile.

[bartlebooth]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

I have lived in the densest tallest part of Ottawa (several different Centretown apartment buildings), and have never understood where this fixation on sunlight comes from, other than an entitled and suburban perspective.

I have never lacked sunlight, I don't know anyone who has, and despite decades of urban exploration in this town, I have yet to find a property or a building which has been cast into the mythologized "perpetual" darkness.

Yes, buildings cast shadows. They do this regardless of how tall they are. However, the earth continues to rotate about its axis.

Is it really that hard to imagine/believe? I lived in an early twentieth century walk-up about 8 years ago that was in an old, central neighbourhood. The building had an interior courtyard which my north-facing unit opened onto. I got zero direct sunlight regardless of the time of day or year. It was depressing. While this problem was more about building design than surrounding density, not having access to direct sunlight in my home sucked. I'm know many people blow this problem out of proportion but it's not entirely an entitled view (I didn't live in the suburbs then and don't live in the suburbs now). Access to natural light is a basic human need so I get why people care. We can push for density and still have human spaces/places. Developers generally don't care, I feel like 99% of them would not want to live in the places they create but we should push them to care.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by bartlebooth

We can push for density and still have human spaces/places. Developers generally don't care, I feel like 99% of them would not want to live in the places they create but we should push them to care.

Yes, we can.

But the fact that such a space, or a private residence, is cast into a shadow at certain times of day or year, is not much of a reason, or shouldn't be, to oppose what someone else does with their own land.

The shadow debate and NIMBY bone of contention is almost always nonsense and entitlement. But hey, if people are entitled to that sunshine, the best way of giving more people more of it is... to build up in way more places.

[LRTeverywhere]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Richmond needs to lose a lane on the north side, where possible. The current sidewalk hard against the road is pedestrian-hostile.

I've got good news for you!

Richmond (Roughly McEwen Ave to Redwood Ave) will become 2 lanes for the most part with 2 metre cycle tracks and 3 metre sidewalks. These will be built as the road is reconstructed towards the end of LRT construction.

Another project will tackle Redwood Ave to Golden Ave, but the details are less clear at this stage.

[FutureWickedCity]

Richmond (Roughly McEwen Ave to Redwood Ave) will become 2 lanes for the most part with 2 metre cycle tracks and 3 metre sidewalk

That's awesome. It's such an unpleasant experience walking there right now. Narrow, brittle sidewalks flush up against cars hurtling down the road like a highway.

My mother is currently living in the nursing home tucked between this parcel and the SJAM (New Orchard Lodge). The building has already way outlived its lifespan. I was told it's actually the oldest nursing home in Ottawa. My mom would actually be facing this development. So I hope the facility is demolished and relocated before this development goes up.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by LRTeverywhere

I've got good news for you!

Richmond (Roughly McEwen Ave to Redwood Ave) will become 2 lanes for the most part with 2 metre cycle tracks and 3 metre sidewalks. These will be built as the road is reconstructed towards the end of LRT construction.

Another project will tackle Redwood Ave to Golden Ave, but the details are less clear at this stage.

Interesting that there is a bi-directional cycling crossing on the south-east side of Richmond to allow those riding south-west along the Byron Linear Park to cross Woodroffe without having to cross Richmond twice. It would have been nice if they had, while digging the trench for the O-Train anyway, had a slightly wider trench there to allow cyclists to ride under Woodroffe. Maybe there wasn't enough room along that stretch though.

[originalmuffins]

Just checked the DevApps on this, comment period ended on March 22, 2022. So, as long as there wasn't an onslaught of NIMBY's, then this is probably set to be good to go soon.

[rocketphish]

1047 & 1079 Richmond Road was purchased by 1047 Richmond Nominee Inc. (Fengate Capital) from Rimosa Investments Ltd. for $24,200,000 or $221 per square foot. It is zoned Traditional Mainstreet.

http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ne...arch-Sales.pdf

[originalmuffins]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

1047 & 1079 Richmond Road was purchased by 1047 Richmond Nominee Inc. (Fengate Capital) from Rimosa Investments Ltd. for $24,200,000 or $221 per square foot. It is zoned Traditional Mainstreet.

http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ne...arch-Sales.pdf

huh? why the sale??