HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Alberta & British Columbia > Vancouver > Downtown & City of Vancouver


Villa Cathy Care Home in the SkyscraperPage Database

Building Data Page   • Vancouver Skyscraper Diagram

Map Location

Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #61  
Old Posted May 30, 2023, 3:42 PM
WarrenC12's Avatar
WarrenC12 WarrenC12 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East OV!
Posts: 24,338
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpongeG View Post
there was a woman on CKNW this morning who was against this building and was from some organization down there, I don't think she lived in that area and she was quite annoying to listen to so I changed the station but I did hear something she said and that was she is only willing to accept 100% low rent units at that site and they do not want condos in the area.
I guess they'll be happy with the useless concrete lot for a few more decades.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #62  
Old Posted May 30, 2023, 8:24 PM
VancouverOfTheFuture's Avatar
VancouverOfTheFuture VancouverOfTheFuture is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 3,481
Perfect is the enemy of good... as they say.

people are annoying af. i think these kinds of people must be against density at this point. there is no real world reason for these people to think like this.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #63  
Old Posted Jun 12, 2023, 4:47 PM
Jimbo604 Jimbo604 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,888
105 Keefer Development Permit Board Meeting today at 3pm, *Continued from May 29, 2023 Meeting

Agenda, how to watch meeting, etc: DPB Web page on City of Vancouver Website

Google Search for 105 for news stories in the last week: Google

48 of 73 registered speakers were heard at the May 29th meeting leaving 25 for today. Source: Vancouverisawesome.com

Can new speakers still register to speak today or is the list now closed?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #64  
Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 12:42 AM
seamusmcduff seamusmcduff is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 591
Appears to be about 50-100 people protesting this one, never seen such passion for an empty parking lot
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #65  
Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 1:02 AM
VancouverOfTheFuture's Avatar
VancouverOfTheFuture VancouverOfTheFuture is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 3,481
Quote:
Originally Posted by seamusmcduff View Post
Appears to be about 50-100 people protesting this one, never seen such passion for an empty parking lot
its because it has no affordable senior housing!!! it must have that!!!

oh wait, it doesnt have that because they protested that the first time.

get it approved and built already.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #66  
Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 4:24 PM
Jimbo604 Jimbo604 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,888
No decision Monday on controversial Chinatown condo project at Vancouver City Hall
Link By Simon Little & Kristen Robinson Global News
Posted June 12, 2023 10:01 pm Updated June 13, 2023 1:07 am

"The land at the corner of Keefer and Columbia streets has sat empty for years.

Developer Beedie Living's condo tower was originally voted down by the city’s development permit board in 2017.

However, a challenge in BC Supreme Court, plus a shift in community sentiment, has given the project new life.

The nine-story, mixed-use commercial building—with plans for retail, a senior living centre and 111 residential units—is expected to be approved.

Vancouver Tenants Union has expressed concerns about the project’s lack of social housing, but seven legacy groups, including the Chinatown Business Improvement Association, have signed a letter of support for the development.The battle over a controversial proposed condo project in Vancouver’s Chinatown was back at city hall again Monday with no decision reached for a second time.

All registered speakers were heard but the final decision has now been deferred to June 26 at 3 p.m.

The city’s Development Permit Board reconvened to hear speakers weigh in on Beedie Living’s proposal for 105 Keefer St., after a previous hearing also ran out of time to hear everyone.

Forty-eight people had their say on May 30, and double that many spoke Monday."


Another two week wait.

Controversial condo tower in Vancouver’s Chinatown could get green light
Link Regan Hasegawa CTV News Vancouver Multi-Media Journalist
Updated June 12, 2023 6:57 p.m. PDT Published June 12, 2023 8:01 a.m. PDT

"The land at the corner of Keefer and Columbia streets has sat empty for years.

Developer Beedie Living's condo tower was originally voted down by the city’s development permit board in 2017.

However, a challenge in BC Supreme Court, plus a shift in community sentiment, has given the project new life.

The nine-story, mixed-use commercial building—with plans for retail, a senior living centre and 111 residential units—is expected to be approved.

Vancouver Tenants Union has expressed concerns about the project’s lack of social housing, but seven legacy groups, including the Chinatown Business Improvement Association, have signed a letter of support for the development. “This has been an empty parking lot for over 50 years. Even before I was around, Chinatown has gone through evolutions over the last 100 years and this is just part of it,” said Jordan Eng, president of the Chinatown BIA.

Eng says he believes the development will contribute to an inclusive neighborhood for seniors and working people.

“These aren't luxury condominiums. No one goes to Chinatown to buy a luxury condominium,” said Eng.

He adds that the past five years have been tough for Chinatown, in part due to the hard hit of the pandemic."
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #67  
Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 4:32 PM
seamusmcduff seamusmcduff is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 591
Well if you go by how much they will sell for in a vacuum, maybe you could call them "luxury". But we don't live in a vacuum, and even if units are over $1000/sf that's not luxury anymore, that's the minimum unless the unit is over 30 years old. Luxury is $2,000+/sf in Vancouver now, and he's absolutely right, you won't get that here.

Nimbys protest housing because it gentrifies/ruins character>housing doesn't get built>Prices go through the roof>Nimbys complain that proposed housing isn't affordable enough>housing doesn't get built>prices go even higher.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #68  
Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 4:37 PM
Changing City's Avatar
Changing City Changing City is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 7,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by seamusmcduff View Post
Well if you go by how much they will sell for in a vacuum, maybe you could call them "luxury". But we don't live in a vacuum, and even if units are over $1000/sf that's not luxury anymore, that's the minimum unless the unit is over 30 years old. Luxury is $2,000+/sf in Vancouver now, and he's absolutely right, you won't get that here.

Nimbys protest housing because it gentrifies/ruins character>housing doesn't get built>Prices go through the roof>Nimbys complain that proposed housing isn't affordable enough>housing doesn't get built>prices go even higher.
They'll be closer to $1,300 psf if the current Keefer project is anything to go by.
__________________
Contemporary Vancouver development blog, https://changingcitybook.wordpress.com/ Then and now Vancouver blog https://changingvancouver.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #69  
Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 4:42 PM
seamusmcduff seamusmcduff is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 591
Which is pretty in-line with the price most new builds in Vancouver currently, so doesn't really make it luxury.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #70  
Old Posted Jun 26, 2023, 9:46 PM
jollyburger jollyburger is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 14,653
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #71  
Old Posted Jun 26, 2023, 10:29 PM
jollyburger jollyburger is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 14,653
People blabbing on about the historical site for the Chinatown Memorial that was unveiled in 2003.

Last edited by jollyburger; Jun 26, 2023 at 10:44 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #72  
Old Posted Jun 26, 2023, 10:49 PM
jollyburger jollyburger is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 14,653
Sounds like they want to add new conditions to any tentative approval of the project.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #73  
Old Posted Jun 26, 2023, 11:05 PM
Changing City's Avatar
Changing City Changing City is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 7,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by jollyburger View Post
Sounds like they want to add new conditions to any tentative approval of the project.
I don't think they can tentatively approve it; they can either refuse it (again) with reasons, or approve it. It sounds like it's approved, but with design development conditions.
__________________
Contemporary Vancouver development blog, https://changingcitybook.wordpress.com/ Then and now Vancouver blog https://changingvancouver.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #74  
Old Posted Jun 27, 2023, 12:11 AM
whatnext whatnext is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 26,726
At this point why doesn't the province and Feds just buy it off Beedie and build seniors/social housing on it.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #75  
Old Posted Jun 27, 2023, 12:20 AM
Changing City's Avatar
Changing City Changing City is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 7,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by whatnext View Post
At this point why doesn't the province and Feds just buy it off Beedie and build seniors/social housing on it.
What makes you think Beedie 'just' want to sell it? (The Feds don't build housing, so it would have to be BC Housing).
__________________
Contemporary Vancouver development blog, https://changingcitybook.wordpress.com/ Then and now Vancouver blog https://changingvancouver.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #76  
Old Posted Jun 27, 2023, 1:41 AM
Feathered Friend Feathered Friend is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,429


















Quote:
You’ve probably already noticed that the homes at 105 Keefer Street were unanimously approved by the Development Permit Board today. However, for those looking to see what conditions were attached to that support, we’ve got you covered. #Vancouver #VanRe
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct-cK2URtYi/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #77  
Old Posted Jun 27, 2023, 2:40 AM
s211 s211 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: The People's Glorious Republic of ... Sigh...
Posts: 8,431
Quote:
Originally Posted by Feathered Friend View Post




Literally, LITERALLY design by committee.

The next Homer?
__________________
If it seems I'm ignoring what you may have written in response to something I have written, it's very likely that you're on my Ignore List. Please do not take it personally.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #78  
Old Posted Jun 27, 2023, 2:44 AM
jollyburger jollyburger is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 14,653
Best part was when one of them asked if they consulted any Chinese architects on the design of the building.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #79  
Old Posted Jun 27, 2023, 7:01 AM
whatnext whatnext is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 26,726
Quote:
Originally Posted by Changing City View Post
What makes you think Beedie 'just' want to sell it? (The Feds don't build housing, so it would have to be BC Housing).
If Beedie were paid fair market value would they care? And the Feds should be building housing since they are responsible for stoking a lot of the demand.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #80  
Old Posted Jun 27, 2023, 3:11 PM
Changing City's Avatar
Changing City Changing City is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 7,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by whatnext View Post
If Beedie were paid fair market value would they care? And the Feds should be building housing since they are responsible for stoking a lot of the demand.
So you think government should buy up sites that have a valuation based on an approved condo development in order to build social housing?

Fair enough, although completely at odds with the view often expressed here that government shouldn't build non-market buildings Downtown, but if they have land, sell the sites for condos and build more non-market where land prices are lower. I thought that was more in line with your previous views, but clearly that's not the case.

So the land is valued at about $16m, Beedie might sell at something over $30m. Do the government buy 129 Keefer that Anthem bought too? And 137 Keefer, also vacant,and approved for condos?

Should they buy 796 Main Street in Chinatown too? That has a land value of $11m, but Bonnis are currently offering it for sale at $23,888,000. (You can see what developers think market land values are in Chinatown).
__________________
Contemporary Vancouver development blog, https://changingcitybook.wordpress.com/ Then and now Vancouver blog https://changingvancouver.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Alberta & British Columbia > Vancouver > Downtown & City of Vancouver
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 9:15 PM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.