Stadiums and Arenas of Canada part 2

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by esquire

I wasn't going to come out and say it, but now that you mentioned it...

I don't really have as much confidence in this as I might have been suggesting. It does seem to take a lot of years to move up to contending status in today's NHL, so maybe McDavid won't take them there right away. Anyway, it's a beautiful arena.

[Oilkountry]

Originally Posted by Andy6

I don't really have as much confidence in this as I might have been suggesting. It does seem to take a lot of years to move up to contending status in today's NHL, so maybe McDavid won't take them there right away. Anyway, it's a beautiful arena.

I wouldnt underestimate what lucic Can bring to a team as well, Oilers should make play offs this year

Leaf fans should probably pass on this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbsj9-JZm4g

MacEwan Station - Edmonton LRT by Acey, on Flickr


MacEwan Station - Edmonton LRT by Acey, on Flickr


Sunset at Rogers Place by Acey, on Flickr


Edmonton Downtown Community Arena @ Rogers Place by Acey, on Flickr

[craner]

Is PCL building everything in the ICE District (ie. Stantec, Legends, COE, etc.) or just the arena ?

[Coldrsx]

Pretty much everything.

[tomthumb2]

Looks like Edmonton has way more room for trucks in their concourse than Calgary does. And that video on the previous page reminds me of when the Saddledome first opened to the public - everyone thinking it was so great. Now it just reminds me of some tupperware that someone left in the microwave too long. I hope Rogers ages better.

Have to give Edmonton an A+ for their sports facilities huh? And Calgary and F?

[Coldrsx]

The loading dock for Rogers Place is massive, massive and internal.

[blueandgoldguy]

Rogers Place is so spacious it's ridiculous. There won't be any congestion concerns on the main concourse, that's for sure!

I always get nervous with those 40 or 50-foot tall excalators that take folks from the main level to the upper deck - I have used a similar one at Xcel Energy Centre in St. Paul a few times. In the interest of safety maybe it would be best to have a net running underneath the length of them as you can probably count on a person or two climbing onto the railing due to drunkeness/stupidity.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

From a couple of Jays beat writers

https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/775815295055212549

#BlueJays in process of picking a design partner for Rogers Centre to help "re-envision the building for next 30 years” per Mark Shapiro.

https://twitter.com/ShiDavidi/status/775816483632877568

Mark Shapiro says design firm made #BlueJays presentation on dome update. "There’s a lot of opportunity to re-envision & modernize the bldg"

[Steveston]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

I wouldnt underestimate what lucic Can bring to a team as well, Oilers should make play offs this year

Leaf fans should probably pass on this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbsj9-JZm4g

At the very least, plenty of time working on the PK.

[EpicPonyTime]

Really excited to learn more about modernizing Rogers Centre, especially if they're willing to take the (expensive) steps to make it capable of hosting a grass field. A revamped Rogers Centre has the chance to the crown jewel of stadiums in this country.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

You know, I've always said there's lots they could do with the exterior and interior of Skydome to bring it up to standard. The thought of it being a 'crown jewel' never crossed my mind - I'm not sure Rogers is interested in investing that much into the stadium. We shall see...

One little thing I'd do is lower the outfield walls so that players can make those over-the-wall catches. Then add a standing room section just beyond the wall and in front of/ below those outfield seats.

And you'll notice that there are several gaps beyond the wall. Seal those up so that home run balls don't just disappear into the bowels of the stadium - hate that...

[blueandgoldguy]

I'm cynical about Rogers so I doubt the upgrades, whatever they are, will place Skydome any better than a bottom-10 or even bottom-5 ballpark in MLB. As it stands, it is the second or third worst park in the majors. I also doubt they will spend the money to rip out all the concrete in the floor to have an all-grass stadium. Won't do much to attract free agents there that's for sure.

On a more positive note here is the video of the Oilers dressing room, gym, training room, etc. Prepare to be amazed!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/principe-gives-fans-tour-behind-scenes-rogers-place/

[Berklon]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

On a more positive note here is the video of the Oilers dressing room, gym, training room, etc. Prepare to be amazed!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/principe-gives-fans-tour-behind-scenes-rogers-place/

I've never been one to get excited about how nice a stadiums/arenas dressing rooms, media room, workout room, trainers room, etc. is. Basically, if it's not available to the general public, then it's of no use to me. If anything it would irritate me to see how pampered over-paid athletes are.

I'm all for anything that increases the fans experience and comfort level, since they're the ones who ultimately pays for these new buildings.

[king10]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

I'm cynical about Rogers so I doubt the upgrades, whatever they are, will place Skydome any better than a bottom-10 or even bottom-5 ballpark in MLB. As it stands, it is the second or third worst park in the majors. I also doubt they will spend the money to rip out all the concrete in the floor to have an all-grass stadium. Won't do much to attract free agents there that's for sure.

On a more positive note here is the video of the Oilers dressing room, gym, training room, etc. Prepare to be amazed!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/principe-gives-fans-tour-behind-scenes-rogers-place/

Wouldnt an all grass field be more attractive to free agents than a turf field which is a detriment? Ie melky cabrera not resigning 2 years ago.

Its definitely not the second worst park. Tampa and Oakland are far worse.

[EpicPonyTime]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

I'm cynical about Rogers so I doubt the upgrades, whatever they are, will place Skydome any better than a bottom-10 or even bottom-5 ballpark in MLB. As it stands, it is the second or third worst park in the majors. I also doubt they will spend the money to rip out all the concrete in the floor to have an all-grass stadium. Won't do much to attract free agents there that's for sure.

The concrete isn't the issue when it comes to a grass field. The bigger issue would be finding a way to grow it indoors when the roof is closed and not have the moisture completely wreck the interior. That would require millions and as much as the fans want it to happen it probably never will.

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by king10

Wouldnt an all grass field be more attractive to free agents than a turf field which is a detriment? Ie melky cabrera not resigning 2 years ago.

Its definitely not the second worst park. Tampa and Oakland are far worse.

I meant if they didn't bring in an all grass outfield but refurbed the rest of the stadium it would do little to improve Toronto as a destination for free agents.

Regarding the second comment, yeah you are probably right although some may still prefer Oakland due to it being outdoors in a temperate climate with an all grass field.

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by EpicPonyTime

The concrete isn't the issue when it comes to a grass field. The bigger issue would be finding a way to grow it indoors when the roof is closed and not have the moisture completely wreck the interior. That would require millions and as much as the fans want it to happen it probably never will.

Yes, I did hear about this. I also heard installing a drainage system would be ridiculously expensive as well.

If they don't install grass, they will continue to have a difficult time getting A-list free agents. They already fight the stigma of being in Canada. Playing in a middle-aged stadium with no natural grass won't help them to persuade players to play here.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

I meant if they didn't bring in an all grass outfield but refurbed the rest of the stadium 1.it would do little to improve Toronto as a destination for free agents.

2.Regarding the second comment, yeah you are probably right although some may still prefer Oakland due to it being outdoors in a temperate climate with an all grass field.

1. Winning solves most problems in sport. And I'm not sure their plan involves targeting major free agents anyway unless you count Josh Donaldson who will be one soon enough.

The turf is an issue. It's harder to play on in some ways and from a fan perspective, it looks like sh*t. This I don't understand. With all the wonders of the modern world, why can't someone create a kind of turf that doesn't look ridiculous on a baseball field.

2. Nobody prefers Oakland to anything anywhere - nobody.

[Oilkountry]

Blue seats look great. Also notice the true seamless glass. The only railings seem to be the stairs now. Was also mentioned on twitter that motley crew could be heard belting out of the arena bowl...on the new organ