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Old Posted May 9, 2010, 7:32 PM
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A state commission is re-imagining the future of state government's physical presence in the heart of Austin a concept that would triple the amount of space at the Capitol complex, including joint development with private interests where there are parking lots or garages now.

The proposal, being crafted by the Texas Facilities Commission staff under the direction of new Executive Director Terry Keel, goes well beyond moving state employees from 2 million square feet of leased space across Austin to new state-owned buildings near the Capitol.

The concept, carried out over several decades, would remake downtown, potentially adding 7 million square feet of space, or the equivalent of 13 Frost Bank towers.

Of that, 1 million square feet would be in three new state office buildings. The proposal envisions the rest as joint development of underused state land with private interests.

The planners anticipate that the undertaking would comply with City of Austin development rules and respect the so-called Capitol view corridors. The plan is "parking neutral" — replacing lost spaces with underground parking — but anticipates that the Capitol complex eventually would be served by light rail and urban rail.

At this early juncture, the concept is little more than a 3-D presentation of possibilities for better using the 122 acres around the Capitol. But Keel says the idea could save money by reducing lease payments, create revenue for the state and "swell" local property tax rolls.

The best of all results, Keel said, would be if Texans a hundred years from now said, "'The artistry and timeliness was as well thought out as it was 120 years ago when they built the Capitol.'"
This is great for downtown, that land would not have been used for anything else. and while it does add the sq. footage of 13 frost towers they also are talking about decades from now. That's going to bring so much more daytime traffic to downtown.
     
     
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A small tour of The Austonian interiors.

http://galleries.statesman.com/gallery/austonian-050910/#83267
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Wow, nice! This one would be a great set for the next Batman movie.


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The render of the Austonian was good but the real one looks better...they must have done some revisions after Priller put it together. even the clouds were similar to the first shot. Check out how green the city looks now compared to the earlier shot, must have been in the drought. It would be cool if one street in Austin/Tx had a legal MJ smoking zone and Willie would be proud, here is a picture of my dog who is named after Willie Nelson. He's a little Willie.
     
     
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Really illegal drug usage avenue I don't think that would be cool.
     
     
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Old Posted May 10, 2010, 5:18 AM
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I haven't read anything anywhere to suggest that was anything more than just a rumor. Although, logistically speaking, it does make sense that they would look the other way. The police actually do just that at most big outdoor concerts. You'd be surprised.
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Old Posted May 10, 2010, 6:16 AM
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Two pics I took on Sunday from near my sister's house. These were taken along Ross Road which is located in Eastern Travis County about 5 miles from the Bastrop County line. Ross Road runs north/south, and dead ends at TX 71.



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Old Posted May 10, 2010, 12:47 PM
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The render of the Austonian was good but the real one looks better...they must have done some revisions after Priller put it together. even the clouds were similar to the first shot. Check out how green the city looks now compared to the earlier shot, must have been in the drought. It would be cool if one street in Austin/Tx had a legal MJ smoking zone and Willie would be proud, here is a picture of my dog who is named after Willie Nelson. He's a little Willie.
I admit i completely made up the part about the marijuana.
     
     
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I admit i completely made up the part about the marijuana.
Yeah, well.... that was fun!
     
     
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Old Posted May 11, 2010, 5:18 PM
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Hilton Condo's hit with lawsuits.

Basically the construction of the Hilton condos is not up to the residents standards, there is water leaks and noise pollution. These affect a select few condos in the lower levels of the building. I think the 2 issues that transpired to get to this situation:

1. I always thought it was weird they had condo floors in between the hotel floors. When I toured the units I thought all the ones that were sandwiched with the hotel were just odd and I didn't like it. its poor design.
2. The building was built by a not for profit partnership between the city and builders, and was thus built to the lowest bidder, which may be fine for a rental building or affordable housing, but when you are purporting to be a luxury product that doesn't cut it. I don't know any other luxury products built by not for profit companies to the lowest bidder. Its just an irreconcilable difference.

Also what does this mean for other buildings? particularly hotel branded condos? Well the Four Seasons condos are a completely separate building from the Four Seasons hotel, they only share staff and the complex, so there is little chance noise pollution or high volume hotel services causing a nusicanse. As for the W Hotel, it has all the hotel services on the lower floors and condos on upper floors with zero exceptions, they actually have a transition floor to help separate the two. Both buildings were built FOR profit and the city had little to no involvement. (they sold the developers the land for the W and possibly made some height variances for the two, but that is nothing out of the ordinary.)

In all this does not look like it has the chance of spreading beyond this one building, yet it could put a halt on all sales in the building especially on floors where there is pending litigation. It will lower the value of the 555 condos,at least until litigation is settled. This will also boost the value of all the other downtown condos as the supply of condos in buildings without pending lawsuits just went down.

Here are the important parts of the article.

http://www.statesman.com/business/condo-...hoddy-construction-at-hilton-681176.html

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Condo owners' lawsuits allege shoddy construction at Hilton

By Marty Toohey

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Published: 10:53 p.m. Monday, May 10, 2010

In the basement garage of the Hilton Austin hotel, discolored streaks trace the path of water that seeps from cracks in the wall into cracks in the floor. The wall has become an emblem of sorts for apparent structural problems and mounting legal issues facing the downtown hotel, a 7-year-old facility the city government had built to boost tourism.

The matter also raises questions about the contractor chosen for the project and the complicated financing scheme that will leave the city the Hilton Austin's owner. For nearly three years, an assistant city manager has been fielding complaints from condo owners about leaks and noise.

The legal battles are happening on two fronts. One involves seven condo owners who say the city allowed shoddy construction that ruined their $500,000-plus investments. One owner, Winston Ku, a classically trained singer with an Oxford law degree, claims that frequent leaks and mold in the ceiling have made his two fifth-floor units uninhabitable and that the same thing is happening in a ninth-floor unit he bought last year.

The city hired Hilton to run the 800-room hotel, which opened in December 2003. The city owns 74.41 percent of the space inside the building, according to Austin Convention Enterprises. Condo owners collectively own 22.68 percent of the space. Another 2.91 percent is commercial space owned by Neches Street Partners.

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Old Posted May 12, 2010, 3:52 AM
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what is an appropriate amount of editing before posting? The excerpts i included were about 50% of the total article. I'm fine conforming to whatever rules we have for editing down the summary of an article, but i'd like to know what is an appropriate edit?
     
     
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Old Posted May 12, 2010, 4:17 AM
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I usually post 3 or 4 lines. Although, it depends on the length of the article. So 3 or 4 lines in a short article might be the whole article. I try to stick to a paragraph. You can also choose any 4 lines of the article as an excerpt. It doesn't have the be the first paragraph. The thing is, American-Statesman writers read the forum regularly. I know it for a fact.
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Hmm, and I thought our building's ownership was complicated. This one is a tangled mess!
     
     
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Old Posted May 12, 2010, 7:16 PM
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After seeing the ownership structure of this building I decided to look up what it is going to be in my building. According to the condo documents:

The partnership between stratus and CJUF II owns 56% and the condos own 44%. I can't remember the exact percentages between stratus and CJUF but I know stratus is the minority partner.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2010, 1:43 PM
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So the Green Water Treatment site and the condos on that site are still alive and kicking. They are planning around 425 condos in 2 towers on the site. I'm not sure what the price range will be. They said the soonest construction could start is 2012, which means that occupancy could be sometime around 2015!

It is an interesting thing that we are seeing with all these supposed dead or delayed projects getting some kind of traction and moving forward in some way. It seems to me that developers understand that there will be a second wave of condos built in downtown but like a game of musical chairs, there will not be enough financing nor demand for all of these projects. So all the astute developers are doing everything they can to get their projects "shovel ready" and thus be the first one out of the gate once financing returns, which most likely will return on a limited basis.

Of all the "new" projects that have been revived or proposed lately, If I had to pick just one, I think this project has the biggest impact on downtown. It connects much of the city, and basically adds a district, but its a $750 million project so that is to be expected. I think if the developers stay away from the ultra luxury price point 500+ sq ft. they should be able to have a successful offering.


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Developers plan condo towers to replace Austin Energy site downtown

By Shonda Novak
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Published: 10:25 p.m. Wednesday, May 12, 2010

Developers plan to build 425 condominiums in two towers rising up to 500 feet northwest of the former Green Water Treatment Plant. The lead developer, Austin-based Constructive Ventures Inc. , would build the $220 million project on a 1.7-acre site that is currently home to the Austin Energy Control Center.

"The demand for downtown housing remains strong today," Warshaw said. "By 2013, the demand will be even stronger. The unknown factor is whether banks will be ready to lend money for this type of development again by 2013." "Financing will be the most likely factor dictating a start date," he said.

Tim McCabe, senior vice president with Trammell Crow, said the company plans to build a $750 million project at the former Green plant, which is being demolished.

McCabe said the plans for that project remain as outlined in the bid proposal, which envisioned 1.9 million square feet of development. He said the soonest that construction could start would be 2012.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2010, 7:34 PM
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Even though these plans came out with the whole Green project plan, these two towers are not actually on the Green site. These towers are where the Austin Energy building is now, that one-story red brick building.
     
     
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My guess is that is a site that would be ready for development sooner than the rest. How big of a departure is that block from the original proposal?
     
     
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Wow, the W looks massive in the skyline.
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LOL @ the austin city hall images. the upper sheet metal facade just looks like dirty old rust and that ominous spike is rather disturbing but i guess it's all supposed to be "art" (and part of our weirdness eh?). i like most of austin's architecture, but the city hall and long center is just fugly (not the entire long center bldg just mainly the old recycled palmer auditorium turtle green/brown pieces- always reminds me of seat cushion stuffing).
     
     
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