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RyanD · #**7441** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 3:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by SnyderBock

Question, what are the best rental units near transit for something not too much over $1000 a month? Just looking for some personal opinions.

I almost moved to the apartments in Downtown Englewwod because they are right on the lightrail, and sub $1000 for a 1br.

With the new commuter rail going up, I know there's some semi-affordable apartments on 35th and Colorado going up.

Good luck. It's not easy out there.

RyanD · #**7442** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 4:21 PM**

Confluence!!! It's out of the ground!!

Central Platte Valley: The Confluence Update #10

mr1138 · #**7443** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 5:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by SnyderBock

Question, what are the best rental units near transit for something not too much over $1000 a month? Just looking for some personal opinions.

I would check out Westminster. Either South Westminster near the soon-to-open commuter rail line, or further up US36 if you're willing to use the Flatiron Flyer bus service to DUS instead of a train.

bunt_q · #**7444** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 5:49 PM**

Can always look in Aurora. That is, if you consider the 225 line to constitute "transit."

RyanD · #**7445** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 6:14 PM**

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Can always look in Aurora. That is, if you consider the 225 line to constitute "transit."

If it's taking transit to Downtown, there's better transit in some areas around Aurora than say where I live, Lowry, which is in freaking central Denver.

The Dirt · #**7446** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 6:36 PM**

lol Lowry doesn't even have very good road connections. I'd love a Speer-Cherry Creek-Glendale-Colorado/I-25 streetcar or BRT, that way you'd at worst be within biking (gasp!) distance of a stop.

bunt_q · #**7447** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 6:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by RyanD

If it's taking transit to Downtown, there's better transit in some areas around Aurora than say where I live, Lowry, which is in freaking central Denver.

So which alignment would serve you better, the Mountain North Freeway, or the Mountain South?

RyanD · #**7448** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 6:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Dirt

lol Lowry doesn't even have very good road connections. I'd love a Speer-Cherry Creek-Glendale-Colorado/I-25 streetcar or BRT, that way you'd at worst be within biking (gasp!) distance of a stop.

HA! It's in a total no-mans-land for any connections. I'm actually going to bike to work when it gets nicer because I am close to work, I wouldn't mind getting in shape, and it's pleasant fresh air. Don't get me wrong, I will still drive. Probably a lot. I'm not lugging camera equipment and a 25 lb drone case around on a bike. BAH!

The Dirt · #**7449** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 7:46 PM**

Bunt, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. Also, when did we go from calling them freeways to calling them highways? I vote we go full kool-aid and call them freedomways. That will buy us some favors with the next president.

Ryan, just strap that drone on your back and give yourself a little drone assisted boost when you're biking.

RyanD · #**7450** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 7:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

So which alignment would serve you better, the Mountain North Freeway, or the Mountain South?

I will take a Mountain South Freedomway please! Lol.

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Originally Posted by The Dirt

Ryan, just strap that drone on your back and give yourself a little drone assisted boost when you're biking.

But then I'll be outta batteries when I need to do the real work...

Denver Dweller · #**7451** Posted **Feb 24, 2016, 8:22 PM**

http://www.businessden.com/2016/02/24/lo...-developer-for-major-complex/#newsletter

Denver Dweller · #**7452** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 1:59 AM**

http://www.denverpost.com/entertainment/...-overhaul-denver-performing-arts-complex

comoneymaker · #**7453** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 3:02 AM**

Yea the DPA project is one that I am most excited about for Denver. I am hoping for construction to start by late 2018. She is wrong on 3 res towers though. It is one office one hotel one rez.

It will will add sooo much to downtown as long as the buildings dont get nurfed to brown boxes. This with the 4 seasons, Spire, 1401 and 1144 will be a cluster of new actual architecture.

On a side note the demo of Safeway at CC mall is off the table, at least for awhile. Talked to the manager and he said they just resigned their lease. He couldn't say for how long but he said they will be there for awhile to come. Im guessing at least 10 years.

CherryCreek · #**7454** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 4:31 PM**

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On a side note the demo of Safeway at CC mall is off the table, at least for awhile. Talked to the manager and he said they just resigned their lease. He couldn't say for how long but he said they will be there for awhile to come. Im guessing at least 10 years.

I will be interested to see if they go for as long as 10 years or if this is an "interim" kick the can down the road plan.

I do think that the mall itself needs a major redevelopment though starting on the "west side" with total demo of Bad and Bath and the other west side strip mall businesses makes sense.

That should be redeveloped to a mix of residential and retail.

bunt_q · #**7455** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:22 PM**

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I do think that the mall itself needs a major redevelopment though starting on the "west side" with total demo of Bad and Bath and the other west side strip mall businesses makes sense.

I, for one, have no problem with them holding on to the west side as a land bank to enable future redevelopment when it's actually needed. For now, as long as per square foot sales are holding, I don't think it's necessary. But someday it will be, and that space on the west side might be exactly what enables them to hold on as Denver's premier retail destination. And who knows what retail preferences will look like in another 20 years. But where else in Denver can you do a retail project of that magnitude? Nowhere. (And I am fine with not having residential there. We have a whole city's worth of space for residential development. But very few gold plated retail sites.)

bunt_q · #**7456** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:26 PM**

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http://www.denverpost.com/entertainment/...-overhaul-denver-performing-arts-complex

FORGET how exciting this project could be. As streetsblog points out, it will double the area's parking spaces. Sacre Bleu!!! The project MUST BE OPPOSED if it accommodates the automobile. By God, I will strap my bicycle to the crane to oppose any new parking at the DPAC. Economic development be damned. Residents who want to own a car and store it beneath their condos ARE NOT WELCOME in Denver.

Seriously, Sachs is a cancer infecting the Denver development community. The DPAC project is nothing. but. good. The fact that he can even turn that negative is downright Trump-ish. Cancers should be excised.

RyanD · #**7457** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

FORGET how exciting this project could be. As streetsblog points out, it will double the area's parking spaces. Sacre Bleu!!! The project MUST BE OPPOSED if it accommodates the automobile. By God, I will strap my bicycle to the crane to oppose any new parking at the DPAC. Economic development be damned. Residents who want to own a car and store it beneath their condos ARE NOT WELCOME in Denver.

Seriously, Sachs is a cancer infecting the Denver development community. The DPAC project is nothing. but. good. The fact that he can even turn that negative is downright Trump-ish. Cancers should be excised.

And screw the people who want to park their car to see shows, and support the arts. A lot of them are elders who aren't going to take bike or transit. When are we going to look at all generations and the Denver community as a whole?

Sachs is really riling up a crowd that doesn't care about anyone but themselves and their bikes. I, for one, think this needs to stop. Who give two shits about more parking at A PERFORMING ARTS complex if we are getting boat loads of condos and great new arts venues.

comoneymaker · #**7458** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:42 PM**

Yall be crazy. I don't care if they build a 50 story parking garage. Denver's mass transit sucks. The light rail expansion which isn't even done yet it already out dated. I wouldn't take light rail if it was free. Give me my parking or give me death! lol

TheNightfly · #**7459** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by comoneymaker

Yall be crazy. I don't care if they build a 50 story parking garage. Denver's mass transit sucks. The light rail expansion which isn't even done yet it already out dated. I wouldn't take light rail if it was free. Give me my parking or give me death! lol

50 story parking garage?!?!? Now that's a monument for the ages. Dude that would put us on the map. It'd would be right up there with the Empire State Building and the Eiffel Tower.

In all seriousness though, this town as well as every other major town needs a subway. I waited for the 38 yesterday to arrive 15 minutes late yesterday after peak hours. There are all kinds of factors that make buses run late.

- unready people who impede the flow of the route
- too many stops
- traffic lights

With a subway, you get consistent movement. People must have their money ready.

Cirrus · #**7460** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 9:23 PM**

I'm not going to defend Sachs' trope of fixating on parking no matter what else is going on. But I can't let this one fly without comment:

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Originally Posted by RyanD

A lot of them are elders who aren't going to take bike or transit.

You are presenting a false dilemma whereby just because some people must drive, an unlimited amount of driving infrastructure is therefore necessary everywhere. That's the same argument people use to oppose bus lanes ("not everyone can take the bus therefore all lanes must be for cars"), and it is obviously false. Even if the PAC expansion included zero parking (which I am not advocating), old people who have to drive could still drive to the PAC and park at any of the other private garages nearby. Not building a parking garage here would not force your hypothetical old people onto bikes; that simply isn't a real concern.

There may be good reasons to expand parking there. Again, I'm not saying there aren't. But concern trolling is most definitely not one of them. I can concern troll just as easily in the other direction, and it's equally (in)valid: A lot of them are elders who can't pass a driving test and aren't physically capable of driving anymore.