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Old Posted Jul 30, 2025, 3:33 PM
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Let's be real, Muller is a bigger sports celebrity get for Vancouver than anything the Canucks have ever done in the history of their franchise even if he's 36. We signed Messier at 36 and that was a joke. This is definitely bigger in the global sports world than even if the Canucks had signed Gretzky at 36.
The NHL and the Canucks are far and away #1 in this market. There's no comparison to the MLS.

Saying he's a bigger signing than an aging but effective Gretzky is hilarious.
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The NHL and the Canucks are far and away #1 in this market. There's no comparison to the MLS.

Saying he's a bigger signing than an aging but effective Gretzky is hilarious.
Well his caveat was "global sports world" which might be true.
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Old Posted Sep 19, 2025, 6:20 AM
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Vancouver Whitecaps will now face Vancouver FC in the Canadian final in a first for the region - a pro sports derby
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Sounds like a bunch of postering over nothing. BC Place isn't going to cave in to some hollow threats over relocating the Whitecaps.

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Lease negotiations between Whitecaps, BC Place at impasse: MLS boss

“Suboptimal” and “untenable” were some of the words Major League Soccer (MLS) commissioner Don Garber used to describe the Vancouver Whitecaps’ stadium situation in a Friday press conference.

“The existing situation in BC Place is not working,” he told journalists.

The team is currently renegotiating its lease with BC Place, which expires at the end of December, but Garber said “we are looking at a renewal on terms that I won’t approve. So, we do not have a lease for next year." The MLS is legally a party to its teams’ leases.

Garber, who was in town meeting with Premier David Eby and other leaders, said the long-term goal is to develop a dedicated professional soccer venue, possibly at the PNE, and that “this city and its fans deserve a soccer-specific stadium.”

The current situation with BC Place is unsatisfactory in terms of revenue and scheduling, he said. Economically, the team doesn’t participate in any revenue, while BC Place does not offer proper scheduling to the team, he said.

“It is unconscionable that we have to move a playoff game because we can’t get a date,” he said, referring to a home playoff game moved to Portland last year.

The Whitecaps are willing to take over commercial operations and sell sponsorships at BC Place, he said, as part of a short-term deal before a new long-term stadium is built.

There's a possibility the Whitecaps could move to another city if things don’t pan out, though “that’s not the path we want to be on,” Garber said.

“We’re not asking for gifts. We’re asking for the right to earn it. We want to earn it by maximizing the value in BC Place, and we want to earn it by having the opportunity, potentially, to develop a project that will be one of the great showcases for public-private partnership with sports and entertainment and real estate, meaning residential,” he said.

“If we could achieve that, the Whitecaps will become embedded in the community way beyond what it is that they do on the field each weekend.”

A potential stadium at PNE is currently being explored, Garber said, noting that he visited the site a few months ago and that a memorandum of understanding (MOU) is currently being discussed.

The team has “been talking and going back and forth on MOUs on the PNE site. The MOU they’re looking at now is not an MOU that would make sense for anybody,” he said, though “there’s an opportunity.”

For now, sticking with BC Place, which is owned and operated by provincial Crown corporation BC Pavilion Corp. (PavCo), would require a new “revenue dynamic,” said Garber.

In a statement, PavCo said the stadium “remains committed” to supporting the club’s growth and success.

“BC Place and the Whitecaps are currently engaged in productive discussions regarding our upcoming lease renewal. Any agreement has to be looked at in totality, factoring in not just revenue but also operational costs and capital investments,” said the statement.

“Ultimately, it’s our goal to balance the right deal for both parties while ensuring fairness for British Columbians.”

Regarding available dates, PavCo said it “makes 40-plus days available per year" to the Whitecaps for matches and tournaments.
https://www.biv.com/news/real-estate/lea...ps-bc-place-at-impasse-mls-boss-11463132
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https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-to-align-calendar-with-top-leagues-around-world

It makes no sense that MLS would want to leave BC Place to play winter games in the cold and rain, but games will be played through the winter. Can only imagine how this will work in Montreal and Toronto.
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There is going to be a league wide winter break from mid December to sometime in February, when the league adjusts it schedule next year.

The Whitecaps are one of least valuable teams with one of the best fan bases. They need their own stadium.

Burnaby showed interest a few years ago in building a soccer specific stadium at Swangard. That would be a better spot than the PNE. Swangard has a Skytrain Station serving it, and it is more centrally located.
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One small problem: Burnaby Council keeps flinching at the sticker shock. They've already shot down a rec centre and a new city hall.
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The fact that they are in talks for the PNE says a lot about what the Whitecaps want versus whatever benefits Burnaby has for a stadium.
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this is a good watch, how Vancouver became the soccer capital of Canada

Why Thomas Müller chose the new soccer capital of Canada! | KICKING OFF EP 4: Vancouver
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Welcome back to Kicking Off! Our new series taking Eli Mengem around the world to discover and document the amazing footballing stories you may not know about, but should. So far we've been to Ireland, Northern Norway & Barcelona... But for episode 4, it's our biggest episode yet!

As we sent Eli to Vancouver for 2 games in 1 week to find out how Canada's third biggest city has become it's soccer capital, with the Whitecaps arguably the most exciting team in the MLS on and off the pitch, with record results, crowds and their new star Thomas Müller. But this story goes far deeper than what's happening now, as the city is home to one of the oldest, richest and most unique soccer stories in all of North America that goes back half a century.

A massive thank you to everyone in Vancouver for their help on the film.
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2025, 1:28 AM
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Sounds like a Whitecaps stadium might be a bit closer:

Horse racing shut down permanently at Hastings Park in Vancouver
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Dec 5 2025, 3:25 pm

It’s the end of an era in Vancouver.

Hastings Racecourse and Casino has announced that it is ending thoroughbred horse racing, “effective immediately.”

It ends a 133-year tradition of horse racing in East Vancouver....

...The Vancouver Whitecaps, who play in the MLS Cup Final on Saturday, have been in discussion with the City of Vancouver about building a new soccer-specific stadium at the PNE for months. The likely landing spot for a new Whitecaps stadium is where Hastings Racecourse is currently located.


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/horse-racing-shut-down-permanently-hastings-park

Personally I think that would be a mistake to move it out of downtown where there are rapid transit lines converging and far more nearby restaurants to benefit from the presence of thousands coming in for a game.
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If a stadium is built at the PNE, the most ideal spot is right at Renfrew and Hastings. That would be closer to transit and the (potential) bars and restaurants along Hastings. The PNE buildings could be rebuilt where the racetrack is.
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Somehow, I highly doubt the PNE willingly abandons the Forum, not even to relocate. Ten bucks says they, Playland and the Whitecaps carve up the now-empty racetrack.
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The Whitecaps play 17 home seasons. No one is going to open a pub or restaurant for that. You assume the Whitecaps will try to monopolize anything food/drink related by having some kind of pre-game festival area.
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The Whitecaps play 17 home seasons. No one is going to open a pub or restaurant for that. You assume the Whitecaps will try to monopolize anything food/drink related by having some kind of pre-game festival area.
The area is already fairly dense with houses with basement/secondary suites. A new stadium would tip the tide towards more restaurants opening. Around stadiums and arenas, bars and restaurants tend to cluster.
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I think the Whitecaps need to pressure BC Place for a better deal, maybe a real grass if that's possible. Moving to a winter schedule will require an expensive stadium built in a less than ideal location. And of course BC Place will lose out as well.
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I think the Whitecaps need to pressure BC Place for a better deal, maybe a real grass if that's possible. Moving to a winter schedule will require an expensive stadium built in a less than ideal location. And of course BC Place will lose out as well.
But even with the better deal even Garber said the "north star" was a soccer specific stadium. Unless you know the economics of their rent/F&B I guess it's hard to say how much cash they are haggling over.

Is the new winter schedule better or worse for scheduling issues?
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Interesting bit in the The Province story today, re Whitecaps stadium...

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A proposed memorandum of understanding will be presented to Vancouver council as early as next week that would allow the Whitecaps to bring aboard other partners for additional developments on the site, sources said.
I'm not sure if "other partners" refers solely to Tsleil-Waututh Nation, and their potential casino development, or if the scope of the Hastings Park stadium development would include residential towers. That would certainly open up an easier path towards funding a soccer stadium, and it would be huge news on the Vancouver development front.

With Playland, the Pacific Coliseum, the new amphitheater, and soccer stadium development, the PNE grounds could be one huge entertainment district.

https://theprovince.com/sports/soccer/ml...se-racing-so-is-a-whitecaps-stadium-next
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The City of Vancouver sent out a press release Wednesday evening, alerting the media of a “joint announcement” coming with the Vancouver Whitecaps.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/city-of-vancouver-whitecaps-fc-announcement
Very likely that the City and the Whitecaps have come to an agreement on a memorandum of understanding. We will find out tomorrow more details, and if there will be a residential component, which would make the stadium more financially feasible.

The Hastings Race Course lands are easily big enough for a 30 000 person stadium, and a casino, hotel, and many residential towers. It would be controversial of course.
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I'm not sure if residential and entertainment districts mix very well.
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