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Old Posted Mar 4, 2013, 7:34 AM
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Weird bit of Hotel Clark news - I got a letter that was a "notice of intention of engage in the sale of alcoholic beverages." So that's something. At least they're moving somewhat forward...
Isn't the interior basically complete?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2013, 9:13 AM
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Grabbed a few of The Broad apts. late today. This is moving along nicely.


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Old Posted Mar 4, 2013, 2:33 PM
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Isn't the interior basically complete?
That's been said, but no exterior work at all. That building to the immediate right of the main building (like an annex), I think is supposed to be the restaurant and it needs a lot of exterior work.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2013, 12:33 AM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--source...-like-a-no-go-for-the-nfl-000059874.html

Sources: AEG's downtown L.A. stadium proposal looks like a no-go for the NFL

by Jason Cole

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As people in Los Angeles await word on the sale of the Anschutz Entertainment Group, the NFL doesn't sound too enthusiastic about the firm's plan to build a downtown stadium.

Less than six months after the L.A. city council voted unanimously to support AEG's plan, the concept is essentially dead to the NFL, according to two sources. The problems with the plan are numerous, but the most essential one is the economics.

AEG's proposed NFL football stadium, to be named Farmers Field, is depicted next to Staples …"The numbers just don't work, no matter how you look at the deal," a league source said in February. "It's either too hard for AEG to make money [and pay the debt on the stadium] or too hard for the team. I just can't see a way for it to work."

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Soon-Shiong and Guggenheim have each met with the NFL to discuss the downtown project and possible interest in the NFL. As part of that, the sources have said that Guggenheim has floated the idea of flipping the stadium project by moving the Dodgers to the downtown site and then build a football stadium on the Dodger Stadium site in Chavez Ravine. This was reported by Sports Business Daily last week.

While that sounds plausible in an abstract way, multiple sources said that such an idea would take 10 years of political wrangling before it would have a chance to become reality. In addition, former Dodgers owner Frank McCourt still is a part-owner of the parking lots at Dodger Stadium, meaning that he could theoretically be part of any NFL project in Chavez Ravine. Sadly, McCourt, who once tried to buy the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, remains incredibly unpopular in NFL circles.
     
     
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While that sounds plausible in an abstract way, multiple sources said that such an idea would take 10 years of political wrangling before it would have a chance to become reality.
I don't doubt that's true, but it shouldn't be that way.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2013, 3:12 AM
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Lol...that would suck.

The NFL has been pretty adamant about their preference for Chavez Ravine for a while, so this isn't that surprising. As the news indicated last week, they've engaged Guggenheim in discussions.

I suppose the questions now are would they build in the parking lot, or would they demolish Dodger Stadium?

Also, what would happen with the Convention Center if Farmers is off the table? The extra convention space was one of the most important aspects of the proposal.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2013, 4:28 AM
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please consider the source. It has been mentioned a few times that the writer of the article is fed news by Roski's group
     
     
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The NFL has been pretty adamant about their preference for Chavez Ravine for a while, so this isn't that surprising.
well, that pretty much guarantees another delay, within a delay, within a delay.

change for the better in dt sometimes moves at the speed of a turtle.

One recent example being the original timeline of the grand wilshire proj, which was pushed forward by a few yrs. Then there's the clark hotel, mentioned by brudy. That proj is taking so long to reach the completion stage, something has to be very wrong with it...or its owners. I don't know how they can hope to open the clark as a hotel....at least one that's not as as the cecil on main st....if they can't even cover the expense of something as important as cleaning up the outside of their bldg. something very strange is going on there.

this vid about broadway was filmed almost 20....20!....yrs ago, back around august 1994. If we were discussing the future of broadway back then....did ssp.com exist in 94?....would we have hoped that by 2013 many of the swapmeets & other debris along the street would finally have vanished?


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broadway started to go downhill when many of its first group of shoppers abandoned it for the burbs. Now the one way to revive it yrs & yrs later is if the 2nd wave of shoppers also abandons the street. That will encourage the swapmeets to follow their customers to wherever they end up & hopefully something better, or at least less shoddy, will replace them.

But when this was shot, the large crowds of ppl still meant $$ could be made on broadway, even if most of the stores looked like

but there's hope 19 yrs later. the corner of 8th & broadway, which is caught on tape at the opening of the vid, still shows the chapman bldg in a rundown, swapmeetized condition. It's since been converted to lofts & cleaned up. TG for small miracles!


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The vid also shows the outside of the orpheum theater well before it too....or its upper levels....had been cleaned up & converted to housing, well before new businesses like the umami restaurant had opened. so light finally.....finally....is peeking through at the end of the long dark tunnel.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2013, 5:56 PM
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as i suspected, everyone has come out and shot down Jason Coles bullshit article on the demise of farmers field. What cole says just doesnt make sense...

Here is the LA Times article on this

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-nfl-aeg-stadium-20130305,0,2872176.story
     
     
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as i suspected, everyone has come out and shot down Jason Coles bullshit article on the demise of farmers field. What cole says just doesnt make sense...

Here is the LA Times article on this

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-nfl-aeg-stadium-20130305,0,2872176.story
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Another project to look forward to...

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The Downtown Los Angeles Streetcar Loop is Officially a Go



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March 6, 2013

The Downtown streetcar is getting its finances all lined up: the City Council approved an operational plan today that commits up to $352 million of Measure R transportation tax money over 30 years to cover the operation and maintenance of the system. Which means? The streetcar is happening, people! The vote also instructed the Department of Transportation and Bureau of Engineering to work with LA Streetcar Inc. and Councilmember Jose Huizar's office (whose district the streetcar primarily runs through) to report back with a project management plan in 30 days. The two city departments were also instructed to look into the feasibility of a wireless streetcar, like the one in Bordeaux, France.

The streetcar will be a four-mile fixed rail line that will run on city streets in a loop from the Civic Center to the Convention Center, running down Broadway through the Historic Core before heading into the Fashion District and South Park, and hitting the Financial District on the way back--it'll travel on Broadway, Eleventh, Figueroa, Seventh, and Hill. Half the cash for construction of the streetcar will come from the local tax Downtown voters approved in 2012, and today's vote also authorized LADOT and Metro to start applying to federal programs for the other half. The environmental review is currently underway, and the project still needs to be fully designed and engineered. If all goes according to plan, construction could start in late 2014 and the streetcar could be operational by 2016.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2013, 11:46 PM
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Does anyone know what stood on the Hill street side of the Onni construction site to it becoming a parking lot? Excavation has shown a red brick wall to be lining the northern edge of the site.



Last but not least, the Double Marriott. Now working on the 9th floor above ground.

     
     
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Nice. It looks to me like the Courtyard Marriott will be visible from the Blue/Expo Pico Station once it adds another floor or two. Work on Avant is still on the second floor for both the Figueroa and Flower Street buildings.
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i know we've heard it before, but ive heard from two sources that Whole Foods will be the ground floor tenant at 8th and grand. lets see if anything comes of this
     
     
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Big news this morning.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-property-report-20130307,0,7927638.story


Marriott doubles down on high-rise hotels in L.A.




by Roger Vincent

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As demand for downtown Los Angeles hotel rooms grows, plans have emerged for yet another high-rise inn near Staples Center.

The announcement comes as hoteliers are scrambling to cash in on downtown's revival as a tourist destination and convention hub. Three large hotel projects are already underway and developers are prospecting for other potential sites in the neighborhood.

Next on the horizon is the Renaissance Hotel, which will be more than 20 stories tall with 450 rooms and is slated to open in 2016 across the street from the L.A. Live entertainment complex.

It will cost $200 million and rise on Olympic Boulevard next to a 24-story tower already under construction that will house a Courtyard by Marriott and a Residence Inn by Marriott under one roof when it opens in summer 2014.

The developer of the side-by-side hotel projects is Williams/Dame and Associates, a Portland, Ore., firm that helped build three luxury condominium buildings east of Staples Center in the mid-2000s. Williams/Dame will start work on the Renaissance in early 2014, Chairman Homer Williams said....

Other downtown hotels are being planned, said consultant Alan Reay of Atlas Hospitality. That marks a turnaround from the recession, when hotels suffered and construction stopped.

"Interest in new hotel development in Southern California has come roaring back a lot quicker than many of us expected," Reay said, due to the improving economy and increasing profitability of existing hotels.

"Out of every 10 calls we get from people looking for hotel sites, the No. 1 choice for seven or eight of them is downtown," he said. "In my 20-odd years in this business I have never seen this much interest in downtown L.A."
Depending on the design, this could be a bit larger in scale than the under construction Courtyard/Residence Inn. More hotel rooms (450 vs. 393), and a lot more expensive ($200 million vs. $120 million).

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i know we've heard it before, but ive heard from two sources that Whole Foods will be the ground floor tenant at 8th and grand. lets see if anything comes of this
Please let that be true.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2013, 3:26 PM
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Thanks very much for the photos.

The actual cost of the Marriott / Courtyard was increased to $168 mill just before they broke ground.

Really does look like its coming on well from your photos.

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i know we've heard it before, but ive heard from two sources that Whole Foods will be the ground floor tenant at 8th and grand. lets see if anything comes of this
Whole Foods is interested in downtown. 8th and Grand is a site they've looked at but that's about it. Nothing is official.
     
     
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I think Marriott is doubling-down on new hotels in general, not just in LA. Here in DC, Marriott is building a hotel directly across from our convention center with more than 1,200 rooms.

Nearly two decades in the making, D.C.'s convention center hotel breaks ground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/10/AR2010111007048.html
     
     
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