New subdivision developments

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Yeah those make some sense too. I was wondering outside of politics, perhaps among soldiers or veterans. They should represent the local area though when it comes to naming streets.

The other one I thought of was Helene Campbell, but is she worthy of the main arterial in the area named after her?

Is there not some kind of rule that you cannot name a road or a building after a person until the said person is deceased?

[c_speed3108]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Is there not some kind of rule that you cannot name a road or a building after a person until the said person is deceased?

I don't believe so, but I also believe there should be.

[Capital Shaun]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Is there not some kind of rule that you cannot name a road or a building after a person until the said person is deceased?

No. But from observation it usually occurs after the individual has at least retired.

I find naming streets and buildings after active sitting politicians is pretty tacky.

I remember when they were naming a street Madeleine Meilleur Private in Vanier. Meilleur is a sitting MPP for the riding and a member of the provincial cabinet. There was enough complaining that it was renamed to just Meilleur Private (after droping the first name).

https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Meille...,+Ontario&z=18

[Acajack]

I think the international custom or standard (maybe from UNESCO) is to only name for deceased persons.

But individual governments around the world are not bound by this of course.

I believe in Quebec they have adopted this international rule of thumb and you can no longer name something for a living person.

Of course, many things in Quebec are still named for living people, probably because this took place before the rules were put in force: there is a Rue Guy-Lafleur in Thurso, and there is a Parc Nelson-Mandela in Montreal.

But I don't believe this can be done any more.

[DubberDom]

Brian Cobourn is not dead (yet!), but they named a major arterial route in Orleans after him

[waterloowarrior]

http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/public...focused-zoning

Woodroffe/Deerfox focused zoning study

In response to residents' interest about development in their neighbourhood, City staff are undertaking a Focused Zoning Study of the current and proposed rezoning of four properties at 3102 – 3130 Woodroffe Avenue, as well as the current zoning of six additional properties at 3150 – 3162 Woodroffe Avenue and 15 – 39 Deerfox Drive. The study is guided by the policies for land use in the current City of Ottawa Official Plan.

Councillors Harder and Desroches and City staff invite you to the first Public Information Session for this Focused Zoning Study:

Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Walter Baker Sports Centre – Food Court
100 Malvern Drive
Presentation at 6 p.m.
Discussion until 8 p.m.

If you have ideas or questions about the type of development that is to be permitted at this location and the impact it may have on your neighbourhood, we encourage you to attend.

What is a Focused Zoning Study?
In response to the Planning Summit held in April of 2012, staff within the Zoning, Intensification and Neighbourhoods Unit will be undertaking reviews of zoning situations where it has been identified that inconsistency with the City's Official Plan policies exist.

A Focused Zoning Study is meant to be both thorough and quick so that the public can provide input and feedback in a focused manner on specific issues that need prompt resolution.

A Focused Zoning Study...

examines the existing zoning of a limited geographic area in the context of consistency with the Official Plan; and
includes the opportunity for public input on the proposed recommendations coming out of the study.

[harls]

Small condo development to come to Cantley, construction to start in March.

http://www.abeilla.com/index.php/com...ome-to-l-oasis

[Cre47]

Found this on Gray's in the midst of all the Hobbs bashing. 4000 acres we're told mostly as part of O'Brien's pipe dream edge city.

http://bulldogottawa.com/history-mak...thwest-ottawa/

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by Cre47

Found this on Gray's in the midst of all the Hobbs bashing. 4000 acres we're told mostly as part of O'Brien's pipe dream edge city.

http://bulldogottawa.com/history-mak...thwest-ottawa/

What a weird location! It does not have any road or potential transit connections (i.e. not near Highway 7, 417 or 416 or the rail corridors). They really think all that traffic can be handled on rural roads?

[waterloowarrior]

East Urban Community Phase 2 CDP
http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/public...p-phase-2-area

Demonstration Plan
http://ottawa.ca/sites/ottawa.ca/fil..._demo_plan.pdf

[Cre47]

Streets for the Fernbank subdivision are starting to show up on the city's EMAP and also on Google Maps as planned. On the E-map there are indicating streets in the new area north of Scotiabank Place and on the south side of Earl Armstrong at River as well and also the Manotick mega-subdivision as well

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

East Urban Community Phase 2 CDP
http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/public...p-phase-2-area

Demonstration Plan
http://ottawa.ca/sites/ottawa.ca/fil..._demo_plan.pdf

So all that talk about less curly-swirly, less cul-de-sacky, more linear gridded street layouts, that's just a stinking pile of crap, then, right?

[Cre47]

The city has changed the maps from the E-Map, the new map app is geoOttawa beta. You can see each lot built whether it is a detached/semi-detached or a condominium or a business. You also see if the new streets and lots have been developped or not. My understanding is that any lots with a civic number have been built for the most part (maybe not all or they are under construction/development if we talk about the development south of Earl Armstrong at River) - well based on Street View

So it will be easier to track the sprawl development. Western parts of Kanata alone have three major development areas that are under site-prep.

Also it appears now that Maple Grove Road is now connected to the Jackson Trails comunity with the Stittsville Main northern end.

http://maps.ottawa.ca/geoOttawa/

[Cre47]

http://maps.ottawa.ca/StreetView/Str...55&lng=-75.464

Oh and I just hate arterial roads developped like this one (Brian Coburn Blvd in Orleans) with nothing been built along it (aside from asphalt) and there are a lot of those (even stretches of Portobello even with a speed of 50 km/h have nothing other than the road and sidewalks). How about lining condos on both side of it. This is just an eyesore. You don't have a lot of roads like that in Gatineau. Heck they built lines of condos and homes along 70 km/h roads. On Pink Road, they will be building condominiums all along the stretch from Des Grives to De L'Europe and probably further west on a stretch of road of 70 km/h.

I hope Ottawa would do the same for its main arteries such as Trim, Strandherd, Jockvale (southern portion), Limebank and Earl Armstrong to name a few

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by Cre47

http://maps.ottawa.ca/StreetView/Str...55&lng=-75.464

Oh and I just hate arterial roads developped like this one (Brian Coburn Blvd in Orleans) with nothing been built along it (aside from asphalt) and there are a lot of those (even stretches of Portobello even with a speed of 50 km/h have nothing other than the road and sidewalks). How about lining condos on both side of it. This is just an eyesore. You don't have a lot of roads like that in Gatineau. Heck they built lines of condos and homes along 70 km/h roads. On Pink Road, they will be building condominiums all along the stretch from Des Grives to De L'Europe and probably further west on a stretch of road of 70 km/h.

I hope Ottawa would do the same for its main arteries such as Trim, Strandherd, Jockvale (southern portion), Limebank and Earl Armstrong to name a few

I'm sure that section of Pink will drop to 50 km/h after build-out anyway though. Some, but not all, arterial roads should get that treatment I believe. The core arteries should be left alone (to allow for quick travel between communities) but minor arterials and in town centres I agree. Portobello seems odd, it's not even a major arterial...it could support 60 km/h in its current design.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

I'm sure that section of Pink will drop to 50 km/h after build-out anyway though. Some, but not all, arterial roads should get that treatment I believe. The core arteries should be left alone (to allow for quick travel between communities) but minor arterials and in town centres I agree. Portobello seems odd, it's not even a major arterial...it could support 60 km/h in its current design.

Charlemagne in Orleans is actually the best (or worst) example of this. It's all backyard fences on both sides for almost its entire length.

Gatineau does have a few roads like this (much of La Vérendrye for example) but seems to be moving away from them. Something which Ottawa does not seem to be doing.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Charlemagne in Orleans is actually the best (or worst) example of this. It's all backyard fences on both sides for almost its entire length.

Gatineau does have a few roads like this (much of La Vérendrye for example) but seems to be moving away from them. Something which Ottawa does not seem to be doing.

Just wait for the fences to get old enough and start collapsing. Ugly. Talk about discouraging pedestrians when nothing faces the street anymore. Everything is now designed for cars.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

Just wait for the fences to get old enough and start collapsing. Ugly. Talk about discouraging pedestrians when nothing faces the street anymore. Everything is now designed for cars.

Well you know... you're showing your butt as your "front" to the world, and then after a while it gets old and saggy.

[Cre47]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

I'm sure that section of Pink will drop to 50 km/h after build-out anyway though. Some, but not all, arterial roads should get that treatment I believe. The core arteries should be left alone (to allow for quick travel between communities) but minor arterials and in town centres I agree. Portobello seems odd, it's not even a major arterial...it could support 60 km/h in its current design.

The reason why Portobello won't support 60 km/h even with the more recent widening is because there are 4 schools (all elementary I think) in a relatively short distance and there are at a couple of schools nearby the artery. Seems they don't lower speed near high school (at least on Charlemagne).

Steve Desroches, maybe should lower the speed limit on Spratt in Riverside South where there are 3 schools, though in most of his ward, the speed limits on the major arteries are higher than elsewhere. 70 instead of 60 and roads at 80 which passes behind backyards (of course with walls)

Seems lately in Ottawa, if the speed limit is over 50 km/h, don't built anything alongside and/or fronting the road except walls, blank walls (the big boxes on the south side of Innes and north side of Hazeldean for example) or parking spaces. The good old days of arteries like Carling are long gone.

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by Cre47

The reason why Portobello won't support 60 km/h even with the more recent widening is because there are 4 schools (all elementary I think) in a relatively short distance and there are at a couple of schools nearby the artery. Seems they don't lower speed near high school (at least on Charlemagne).

Steve Desroches, maybe should lower the speed limit on Spratt in Riverside South where there are 3 schools, though in most of his ward, the speed limits on the major arteries are higher than elsewhere. 70 instead of 60 and roads at 80 which passes behind backyards (of course with walls)

Seems lately in Ottawa, if the speed limit is over 50 km/h, don't built anything alongside and/or fronting the road except walls, blank walls (the big boxes on the south side of Innes and north side of Hazeldean for example) or parking spaces. The good old days of arteries like Carling are long gone.

IMO, elementary schools should always see a normal posted speed limit of 40 km/h or lower nearby due to playground activity (except on major arterials where they should never be for safety reasons), which would apply 24 hours a day. On the other hand, high schools aren't as necessary or time-restricted reductions (maintain normal speed otherwise) if anything since there is usually greater awareness at that age, plus there usually isn't playground activity with them. High schools are often OK near major arterials (and sometimes beneficial for businesses).

Generally, major arterial roads with walls behind backyards and limited development IMO support a 70 km/h speed limit. The big boxes are more of a phase of retail development in the overall world, not an Ottawa issue. It's the same in almost every city. Those designs should be avoided if possible on roads with a lower classification than major arterial though.

I'd normally want to see no direct access points (limited to intersections spaced well apart) for 80 km/h in a built-up area.