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Old Posted Mar 16, 2007, 8:07 PM
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this guy is a fool...

Mayor wants to know why tram bill went into orbit

Audit - An expert will check the books on a $15 million project that cost $57 million
Friday, March 16, 2007
ANNA GRIFFIN
The Oregonian

Now that the sleek silver cars of the Portland Aerial Tram are running up and down Pill Hill, Mayor Tom Potter plans to bring in an outside auditor to explain why the city's newest transportation toy cost so much and how to avoid similar skyrocketing costs on future projects.

Potter said this week that he waited until the tram was finished to launch an intense examination of the $57 million aerial lift connecting Oregon Health & Science University with the new South Waterfront neighborhood.

City Council members OK'd construction of the tram four years ago at an estimated cost of $15.5 million. The final tally, according to tram project director Art Pearce: $57 million.

Rising steel and concrete prices accounted for some of the price increase. So did last-minute design changes, faulty estimates and a general lack of accountability among city managers.

"I'm two years into this job, and I still don't know how the decisions were made that increased it to $57 million. There is no trail," Potter said. "I really like the tram. I think it's going to become a Portland icon, and 20 years from now, people won't talk about the price. But the only way we can learn from this is to know what we did wrong."

That won't be easy. Most of the elected officials and bureaucrats who took part in the earliest tram discussions have left city government.

There's already been plenty of fingerpointing, particularly during the last tense months of debate before construction began last year. And the current City Council already has made several major changes in how they do business.

When bureau managers bring construction projects to the City Council now, for example, they must report how confident they are in the cost estimates. At the very least, that makes someone accountable if the estimates turn out to be wildly off.

Potter does not yet know how much an independent audit will cost. But he hopes it might reveal ways the city can prevent future projects from busting the budget.

City Commissioner Sam Adams, whose Portland Office of Transportation oversaw construction of the tram, says an audit is a great idea, although he'd like it to begin sooner than the mayor does.

Potter wants to wait until after the May 15 vote on proposed changes to the structure of city government, "so this doesn't become a question of whether the form of government was to blame."

"I didn't want to do this until the thing was operational, until we knew nothing else could go wrong," he said. "I also don't want to do it while there's any chance of it becoming a political fight."

Anna Griffin: 503-294-5988; [email protected]
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Put it to bed Potter. Have you seen how the costs of steel has skyrocketed over the years. Have you seen the statistics on how most projects end up beyond budget. Why doesn't he actually do something instead of reviewing something!?
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2007, 8:35 PM
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Talk about beating a dead horse. Let it go, move on....
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2007, 8:37 PM
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This doesn't look ADA-compliant anyway....

And no seatbelts? What would the National Transportation Safety Board say?
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2007, 8:43 PM
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^They are all busy skiing at Tahoe..
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2007, 1:34 AM
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Talk about beating a dead horse. Let it go, move on....
Indeed...stop fueling bog and his cronies
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2007, 1:15 AM
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and it goes on...

Tram's neighbors balk at size of city's bills
Hard cash - South Waterfront property owners agreed in 2004 to help cover tram construction costs
Thursday, March 29, 2007
RYAN FRANK
The Oregonian
So how much would you pay to live near Portland's new aerial tram?

Three of the tram's neighbors opened their mail this month to find a bill from the city of Portland for the new silver people-mover and said:

Not that much.

The Oregon Department of Transportation, an industrial engineer and a 31-year-old townhouse buyer objected to the fees the city wants to charge those who own property next to the $57 million tram.

Developers sold the tram as the linchpin for opening the South Waterfront district to the medical and condo towers that now run the riverfront.

In other words: Without a tram, the city says, the riverfront property would be worth far less.

Not everyone sees it that way.

"We as homeowners in South Waterfront are not seeing any benefit that a homeowner in Northeast doesn't see," said Rich Heuser, a Realtor who bought a $533,000 townhouse in the Meriwether who says he doesn't ride the tram. The tram fee for his townhouse was $815. ". . . To me, that's a good enough reason to have the homeowners not front the tram cost.

"Us homeowners in South Waterfront have paid enough."

Heuser was one of 341 people billed. A majority of South Waterfront property owners agreed in 2004 to bill themselves to help cover the tram's construction costs. The fees can be paid over 20 years.

The theory is that property surrounding the tram rises in value thanks to the new investment. Since they share in the benefits, the city says, the owners should also share in the costs.

Property owners will pay a total of $37 million for the tram.

Of that, 95 percent comes from three major property owners: Oregon Health & Science University, barge builder Jay Zidell's companies and the South Waterfront's lead developers, North Macadam Investors led by Homer Williams.

That leaves $1.7 million to be paid by the Average Joe and Jane.

While most of them haven't objected, Heuser wanted to fight.

That is, before he learned that the people who built his condo -- North Macadam Investors -- will cover his $815 fee and fees for all other South Waterfront condos.

Heuser, 31, and his wife, Tanya, 29, are a real estate agent team that has sold condos in the Pearl and South Waterfront districts.

The native Oregonians had a condo in the Pearl, but they liked South Waterfront because it was a clean slate. South Waterfront's condos sprouted from mostly bare land and vacant warehouses with $126 million in help from local, state and federal taxpayers over eight years.

"To me, it's exciting to see something go from dirt to a $100 million building," Rich Heuser said.

Last summer, they moved into an 1,800-square-foot townhouse on the ground floor of the Meriwether. They've since watched the John Ross, Atwater Place and OHSU's Center of Health & Healing rise.

The streetcar and tram moved in and re-connected this hard-to-reach spot with downtown.

"Now, a year later, it's a community," Heuser said. "It's a neighborhood. That's what drew my wife and I down here, being able to experience that."

Joy and Ed Hays objected to their nearly $100,000 bill.

Ed Hays has run an engineering firm for aluminum and paper plants along Macadam Avenue since the 1970s. Joy Hays likes what's happening in South Waterfront and knows their property value will rise. But she can't see how it benefits their business's bottom line. "I'm not sure it's worth staying here for the amount of taxes," Joy Hays said.

State transportation officials were the last to object, to their $52,000 bill for two properties under a freeway ramp.

South Waterfront is the biggest economic development project in Portland history and boasts a number of sustainable features, such as the streetcar and green buildings. The state transportation office's mission is to help provide "a safe, efficient transportation system that supports economic opportunity and livable communities for Oregonians."

But with the tram, the cost to promote alternative transportation appears to be too high for the state.

Harry Whitney, a state senior agent in property management, said in a letter that the tram doesn't translate into any benefits for their vacant land hemmed in by the freeway.

On Wednesday, the City Council overruled the three objections.

Ryan Frank: 503-221-8564; [email protected]


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KGW reports that some riders have been feeling 'queasy' because of winds hitting the tram. Also reported, the Tram has done over 17,700 runs now.

http://www.kgw.com/video/video-index.html?nvid=138362
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 4:55 PM
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KGW reports that some riders have been feeling 'queasy' because of winds hitting the tram.
Well, duh. It's called acrophobia.

Here's a suggestion, if you're afraid of heights, you probably shouldn't ride the tram. You might get "queasy".

...just a suggestion.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 8:50 PM
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^ Exactly why they should've put it underground... lol.
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Homeowner's sign drops f-bomb on people riding the OHSU tram



Homeowner's sign drops f-bomb on people riding the OHSU tram

PORTLAND, Ore. - Someone really doesn't like the new OHSU tram, and now everyone who rides the glistening new transport knows it.

Tram passengers reported that the sign appeared Monday morning and made the feelings of one homeowner crystal clear.

What isn't known is who the complainant is. No one answered when KATU reporters knocked on the door of the home.

The large, professionally-produced sign simply says "(expletive) THE TRAM" in large black letters against a white background.

The tram was the target of fierce opposition from homeowners who ended up living below the aerial transit. They cited privacy concerns as their main point of opposition.

As time wore on and the tram's construction costs began to balloon from $15 million to $57 million, some even called for a halt to construction.

The tram was eventually completed and began carrying passengers in January.

The lower section of the windows in the tram cars are frosted so passengers cannot look directly down into homes below, but the sign is still clearly visible.

The sign is not visible from the street, it is only visible from the air. Parents riding with children on the tram expressed concern over the expletive used on the sign.

The city attorney's office is looking into whether the sign violates any city ordinances, but a cursory look at city regulations revealed that the sign may be protected speech on private property.

City officials are continuing to investigate if the sign violates any statutes.

http://www.katu.com/news/7207751.html
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The home owner is showing a lot of class....not...
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thats funny
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 11:21 PM
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Homeowner's sign drops f-bomb on people riding the OHSU tram

The city attorney's office is looking into whether the sign violates any city ordinances, but a cursory look at city regulations revealed that the sign may be protected speech on private property.

City officials are continuing to investigate if the sign violates any statutes.

http://www.katu.com/news/7207751.html
Oh please.... Portland is City of Sign Ordinances. If there's not an ordinance against it now, there will be by the next council session.
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 11:24 PM
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but what if that new ordinance lowers his property value?
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^then he would change his sign to say f--- city ordinances
anyway if I lived down there I would get smart and sell advertisments on my roof
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 11:32 PM
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I say leave the sign, it'll boost ridership.
In fact, Dougall may be on to something. If everybody along the tram route sold roof space for advertising, we could have an aerial version of Times Square. Hundreds of competing ads, lit up and vying for attention.
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"Parents riding with children on the tram expressed concern over the expletive used on the sign." from the article

Other than that, I have no problem whatsoever with this particular expression of freedom of speech. Some times it takes an expletive for people to get the point. The point is that sure, while people are having lots of fun riding the tram, even as it arguably is also serving a practical purpose, others have to adapt to living in their homes and gardens with great numbers of tram riders in a position to peer down upon them throughout the day. The privacy of residents below the tram has been significantly compromised by the tram.

The fact is though, that now is a little too late for this kind of thing. I can't think of much that can be done to restore lost residential privacy other than blocking out the tram windows half-way or three-quarters of the way up.
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^^^ haha you gave me a good laugh drmyeyes
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I saw some other guy with roof top a sign selling condos near the tram last time I rode it. I guess some people see an opportunity, others just get mad.
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Great point!

With all the medical community related traffic on the tram, think of the opportunity for pharma companies to place billboards on the roofs below.

"Feeling queasy from the tram ride, try Compazine" or "Is the tram the only thing in your life that rises? Not any longer, thanks to Viagra."
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