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Old Posted Feb 20, 2007, 5:44 PM
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I thought the rectangular frame was just for shipping purposes because it looked so out of place against the curved cabin. I was very disappointed to realize that the frame was staying. It really detracts from the otherwise very sleek cabins. Queen Sarah couldn't have come up with a better solution than that?... as much as she spent on everything else?
I also thought they would actually be blue-ish too. Thank God we didn't get the tram that was pictured in the Oregonian, it looked like Willy Wonka's flying elevator...absolutely horrible. Made me thankful we got the curved tram cars we got.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2007, 5:25 PM
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Seems to be one of the better video's out there for those who can't ride it just to get a sample of what it is like.

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Old Posted Feb 24, 2007, 11:08 PM
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I finally road the tram this morning, it was very cool. Watching my buddy (who is afraid of heights) hold on to the pole frozen stiff like a statue made the ride even more enjoyable! Too bad the weather was so crappy I couldn't take any pics from up there.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2007, 11:23 PM
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I rode it today too.

And today (Saturday Feb 24) is the last day it's free.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2007, 11:31 PM
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very scary stuff here glad i didn't ride it today
http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2007/02/portland_tram_closes_to_riders.html
Portland tram closes to riders for day after cars stall
Posted by Ryan Frank February 27, 2007 14:36PM
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The Portland tram is temporarily closed to public riders today after a warning light flashed at 11:51 a.m. and left 29 people stuck in two stalled cabins for a few minutes.

The cars started moving 12 minutes later and delievered riders back on solid ground about 12:04 p.m. The tram has since been closed while crews make adjustments and wait for the wind to slow. The cabins stop automatically when the warning light flashes because it's a sign of problems with the haul rope that moves the cars back and forth from OHSU and the South Waterfront district. Winds also blew faster than 50 mph, the tram's limit, said Harry Lenhart, spokesman for Oregon Health & Science University.

Drivers on Interstate 5 may have spotted the cabins stalled in midair, but Lenhart says no one is inside except for maybe the work crews. No injuries were reported.

-- Ryan Frank
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2007, 11:43 PM
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My boyfriend called me from I-5 today asking about it since my office is in Lair Hill. By the time I looked they were already docked on the ground and top. So it was because of the wind? The article made it sound like it could be something else too.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2007, 11:57 PM
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of course Jack Bog already has this posted on his blog as some sort of vindication of his opposition...
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well its back up and running
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2007, 1:14 AM
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So what's the fuss? The tram did what it was supposed to do in a high wind situation. This shows that the safety features are working, right?

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the fuss is i would be as scared as my cat in the washing machine if i got stuck over I-5 with 50 mph winds blowing against the tram
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2007, 3:48 AM
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Its no big deal, it was windy and the safety features did kick on and work. And jack bog? I'll just say this, if i had a lot of money he wouldn't be around for very long
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Nothing is going to happen even in 75 mph winds; the cars are both aerodynamic and balanced - they hang from the cable way overhead the center of mass - making it virtually impossible that they would drop. Since Switzerland uses them extensively in the mountains over 10,000' - as do ski resorts all over the world - they're friggin' designed for this kind of environment!

Worse would be to in an open-air bridge over I-5 with 50 mph winds.
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Found some pics of Tokyo's aerial tram. We could have had this system for a mere $15 or $20 million:



Note that Funiculars like this would have cost a lot more due to the need to build a bridge over I-5, all the nighborhoods, and Barbur Blvd:




It's on Mt Takao. Found it on this Nytimes.com article.
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No, we should have spent $500 million building a 8 lane limited access freeway connector from I-5 up to OHSU where Gibbs Street is and of course regrade the slope up to Marquam Hill to allow gentle grades for this road!!!!
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No, we should have spent $500 million building a 8 lane limited access freeway connector from I-5 up to OHSU where Gibbs Street is and of course regrade the slope up to Marquam Hill to allow gentle grades for this road!!!!
LOL, thank you Mr. Moses.
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LOL, thank you Mr. Moses.
You could tell by his nick: pdxstreetcar
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Talking attendants wanted

you love the south waterfront. you love the tram. now you, too, can be a part of it all:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/trd/289921780.html
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Note that Funiculars like this would have cost a lot more due to the need to build a bridge over I-5, all the nighborhoods, and Barbur Blvd:



It's on Mt Takao. Found it on this Nytimes.com article.
This wouldn't have worked from SoWa to Pill Hill, but a funicular like this would work very well between Pill Hill and Barbur Blvd, i.e. a future Barbur MAX station at the bottom of the hill. It's only a distance of about 1000 feet, just very steep.
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this guy is a fool...

Mayor wants to know why tram bill went into orbit

Audit - An expert will check the books on a $15 million project that cost $57 million
Friday, March 16, 2007
ANNA GRIFFIN
The Oregonian

Now that the sleek silver cars of the Portland Aerial Tram are running up and down Pill Hill, Mayor Tom Potter plans to bring in an outside auditor to explain why the city's newest transportation toy cost so much and how to avoid similar skyrocketing costs on future projects.

Potter said this week that he waited until the tram was finished to launch an intense examination of the $57 million aerial lift connecting Oregon Health & Science University with the new South Waterfront neighborhood.

City Council members OK'd construction of the tram four years ago at an estimated cost of $15.5 million. The final tally, according to tram project director Art Pearce: $57 million.

Rising steel and concrete prices accounted for some of the price increase. So did last-minute design changes, faulty estimates and a general lack of accountability among city managers.

"I'm two years into this job, and I still don't know how the decisions were made that increased it to $57 million. There is no trail," Potter said. "I really like the tram. I think it's going to become a Portland icon, and 20 years from now, people won't talk about the price. But the only way we can learn from this is to know what we did wrong."

That won't be easy. Most of the elected officials and bureaucrats who took part in the earliest tram discussions have left city government.

There's already been plenty of fingerpointing, particularly during the last tense months of debate before construction began last year. And the current City Council already has made several major changes in how they do business.

When bureau managers bring construction projects to the City Council now, for example, they must report how confident they are in the cost estimates. At the very least, that makes someone accountable if the estimates turn out to be wildly off.

Potter does not yet know how much an independent audit will cost. But he hopes it might reveal ways the city can prevent future projects from busting the budget.

City Commissioner Sam Adams, whose Portland Office of Transportation oversaw construction of the tram, says an audit is a great idea, although he'd like it to begin sooner than the mayor does.

Potter wants to wait until after the May 15 vote on proposed changes to the structure of city government, "so this doesn't become a question of whether the form of government was to blame."

"I didn't want to do this until the thing was operational, until we knew nothing else could go wrong," he said. "I also don't want to do it while there's any chance of it becoming a political fight."

Anna Griffin: 503-294-5988; [email protected]
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1174013718231550.xml&coll=7
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Mayor wants to know why tram bill went into orbit
It's very simple, Mr. Mayor.

The guys who did the original cost estimation based their numbers on this kind of "tram:"




But in actuality we got this:



Now, does there look like there might be a price difference?
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