Huntsville updates

[HSVTiger]

This is conceptual only, may or may not be a real development. Location possibly along I-565 corridor, Greenbrier maybe. South Parkway another possibility, Completion currently early 2017 so if it's real then something needs to start happening soon.

The Oasis Huntsville is a micro-urban real estate development project in the City of Huntsville, AL. The 565,000 sf development will feature a mix of complimentary uses housed including a hotel, conference center, spa, office space and retail space.

[HSVTiger]

Originally Posted by HSVTiger

New glass Jet Bridges being phased in at Huntsville International Airport
One of the finest facilities in the nation constantly being improved.

good view from the inside, pic from al.com

[stewdog1]

Originally Posted by HSVTiger

This is conceptual only, may or may not be a real development. Location possibly along I-565 corridor, Greenbrier maybe. South Parkway another possibility, Completion currently early 2017 so if it's real then something needs to start happening soon.

The Oasis Huntsville is a micro-urban real estate development project in the City of Huntsville, AL. The 565,000 sf development will feature a mix of complimentary uses housed including a hotel, conference center, spa, office space and retail space.

Do you have a link to this?

[huntsvillefan]

Would love to see this develop. Timeline?

[ThatGuy]

Originally Posted by HSVTiger

This is conceptual only, may or may not be a real development. Location possibly along I-565 corridor, Greenbrier maybe. South Parkway another possibility, Completion currently early 2017 so if it's real then something needs to start happening soon.

The Oasis Huntsville is a micro-urban real estate development project in the City of Huntsville, AL. The 565,000 sf development will feature a mix of complimentary uses housed including a hotel, conference center, spa, office space and retail space.

Add a little more "Boring" to these buildings and it could happen!

[TheCapstone]

Holy shit, I hope that isn't some fanciful project. If not, Christmas came early for Huntsville. I hope that is real.

[HSVTiger]

Tomorrow at 10

The city of Madison will hold a press conference Thursday to make a "major announcement" regarding the Intergraph campus in Madison.

Intergraph sought rezoning approval in July for nearly 1,300 residential units as part of a plan to build a "live, work, play destination" on its 227-acre campus in Madison. The proposal also included about 30 acres of open space for parks and greenways.

The land is part of the 700-acre Town Madison project being developed jointly with Louis Breland.

[stewdog1]

Originally Posted by HSVTiger

Tomorrow at 10

The city of Madison will hold a press conference Thursday to make a "major announcement" regarding the Intergraph campus in Madison.

Intergraph sought rezoning approval in July for nearly 1,300 residential units as part of a plan to build a "live, work, play destination" on its 227-acre campus in Madison. The proposal also included about 30 acres of open space for parks and greenways.

The land is part of the 700-acre Town Madison project being developed jointly with Louis Breland.

So I wonder if the drawings above and the Intergraph campus are the same thing?

[David1502]

Originally Posted by stewdog1

So I wonder if the drawings above and the Intergraph campus are the same thing?

If what HSV Tiger said about Oasis Huntsville being "a project in the City of Huntsville" is true, then I doubt that it will be on the Intergraph land as over 90% of their property lies in the City of Madison. This may sound like a technicality, but I doubt that they would specifically state "City of Huntsville" if they weren't already working with Mayor Tommy Battle and other Huntsville officials.

[David1502]

Originally Posted by stewdog1

Do you have a link to this?

Here is the link to the developers website: http://www.thestradagroup.com/the-oasis

The Strada Group is the developer and they fit the profile for most of the large scale projects in the HSV area, as they are based in CA (San Diego). Remember Bridge Street was developed by some guys from L.A. and the Lennar Companies (from south FL) are in charge of Town Madison.

You rarely see anyone local developers completing a large scale project - the most obvious case of a local project not being completed is Constellation in downtown Huntsville. It seems it takes bigger pockets (than what is in the local area) to make it happen.

[PSMadison]

Originally Posted by David1502

Here is the link to the developers website: http://www.thestradagroup.com/the-oasis

The Strada Group is the developer and they fit the profile for most of the large scale projects in the HSV area, as they are based in CA (San Diego). Remember Bridge Street was developed by some guys from L.A. and the Lennar Companies (from south FL) are in charge of Town Madison.

You rarely see anyone local developers completing a large scale project - the most obvious case of a local project not being completed is Constellation in downtown Huntsville. It seems it takes bigger pockets (than what is in the local area) to make it happen.

Here are some other related sites:
http://www.oasisreg.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/oasis-real-estate-group

And these guys appear to be involved:
http://www.ddpllc.com/mixed-use/

Information seems scares for 2017 opening, but they do look like they're spinning up.

[PSMadison]

Originally Posted by HSVTiger

Tomorrow at 10

The city of Madison will hold a press conference Thursday to make a "major announcement" regarding the Intergraph campus in Madison.

Intergraph sought rezoning approval in July for nearly 1,300 residential units as part of a plan to build a "live, work, play destination" on its 227-acre campus in Madison. The proposal also included about 30 acres of open space for parks and greenways.

The land is part of the 700-acre Town Madison project being developed jointly with Louis Breland.

So the big news is that Town Madison (Breland) bought 200 acres of former Intergraph property.
Town Madison developer buys Intergraph property for expansion, WAAY, Patrick Ary Dec 16, 2015

[HSVTiger]

Originally Posted by PSMadison

So the big news is that Town Madison (Breland) bought 200 acres of former Intergraph property.
Town Madison developer buys Intergraph property for expansion, WAAY, Patrick Ary Dec 16, 2015

So they are going to model this after Cool Springs Mall Nashville..Yikes.
I would hope it would be more innovative and forward thinking than a 25 year old existing mall. I hope Breland means in the quality of the stores and not in the design or layout. Cool Springs is Very successful and is expanding with other open air center across I-65. This Town Center is a 15-20 year build out so it will change and evolve. The biggest high priority is getting the new I-565/Zierdt rd interchange built (early next year start date). Until then we may just see a bunch of dirt being pushed around and the old Intergraph stucco city being torn down.
This development has potential to be huge but like so many other grand announcements slowly fade into the warehouse of grand proposed projects.
Hello to Constellation, new amusement park in the Shoals, Sweetwater, or how about this oldie but goodie WannSprings..

[Colin Giersberg]

Don't expect to see much in the way of major road construction projects in N. Alabama. Birmingham has a major project that will take a lot of the funding away from here. Check out the projected cost near the top. While I can't prove that road projects in N. Alabama will be minimal, N. Alabama did take a hit when the interchange for I-22/I-65 was let and this new project is even more expensive.
http://alletting.dot.state.al.us/PROPITEMS/20160122/PITEMS999.pdf

[RocketDawg]

Originally Posted by Colin Giersberg

Don't expect to see much in the way of major road construction projects in N. Alabama. Birmingham has a major project that will take a lot of the funding away from here. Check out the projected cost near the top. While I can't prove that road projects in N. Alabama will be minimal, N. Alabama did take a hit when the interchange for I-22/I-65 was let and this new project is even more expensive.
http://alletting.dot.state.al.us/PROPITEMS/20160122/PITEMS999.pdf

That's typical ... most money is spent in Birmingham. The I-22/I-65 interchange alone probably costs more than has been spent in the Huntsville area in the last ten years, combined.

[Tennhioland]

Originally Posted by HSVTiger

So they are going to model this after Cool Springs Mall Nashville..Yikes.
I would hope it would be more innovative and forward thinking than a 25 year old existing mall. I hope Breland means in the quality of the stores and not in the design or layout. Cool Springs is Very successful and is expanding with other open air center across I-65. This Town Center is a 15-20 year build out so it will change and evolve. The biggest high priority is getting the new I-565/Zierdt rd interchange built (early next year start date). Until then we may just see a bunch of dirt being pushed around and the old Intergraph stucco city being torn down.
This development has potential to be huge but like so many other grand announcements slowly fade into the warehouse of grand proposed projects.
Hello to Constellation, new amusement park in the Shoals, Sweetwater, or how about this oldie but goodie WannSprings..

I noticed some articles that said "Cool Springs Galleria" initially have been changed to say "Cool Springs area" or "Cool Springs Development". I'm sure Breland said Galleria but meant the basic feel and layout of the entire development along the interstate. No way they would build an indoor mall at Town Madison.

[David1502]

Originally Posted by HSVTiger

So they are going to model this after Cool Springs Mall Nashville..Yikes.
I would hope it would be more innovative and forward thinking than a 25 year old existing mall. I hope Breland means in the quality of the stores and not in the design or layout. Cool Springs is Very successful and is expanding with other open air center across I-65. This Town Center is a 15-20 year build out so it will change and evolve. The biggest high priority is getting the new I-565/Zierdt rd interchange built (early next year start date). Until then we may just see a bunch of dirt being pushed around and the old Intergraph stucco city being torn down.
This development has potential to be huge but like so many other grand announcements slowly fade into the warehouse of grand proposed projects.
Hello to Constellation, new amusement park in the Shoals, Sweetwater, or how about this oldie but goodie WannSprings..

I think you are misunderstanding what Breland means when he says that he is going to model Town Madison after Cool Springs. What he is saying in the name Cool Springs is the several hundred acre mixed use area which straddles I-65 from the McEwen Drive interchange (Exit 67) up to Moore Lane (Exit 69). He is not referring just to the mall.

In 1991 Cool Springs Mall opened and gave the surrounding area the name identity which it still enjoys today, much in the same way that Perimeter Mall in suburban Atlanta caused its neighborhood to be known as Perimeter Center.

The Cool Springs are now has a significant Class A Office market which is highlighted by Nissan North America's HQ which is located on the east side of I-65. Former cow pastures are now the home of high end office space.

To get a feel for how massive the current Cool Springs area is just on the retail/restaurant side, drive down Mallory Lane (on the backside of the mall) from Moore Lane to just past McEwen Dr. (where Whole Foods is) and you will see 2 miles of an uninterrupted retail corridor and this doesn't include the power center on the east side of 65 anchored by The Home Depot.

Presently, the Cool Springs area has become the major corporate office area outside of Downtown Nashville. Louis Breland, Dale Strong and other elected officials have a vision for creating a similar large scale mixed use development with two mile of interstate highway frontage anchored by a large regional retail center (at Zierdt Rd.)

In this morning's paper edition of the HSV Times, he goes into more description of what he (Breland) envisions, saying that it will last for "hundreds of years, not just the next 10 years." This is interesting since Madison Square Mall has reached the end of its life at 30 years.

[Tennhioland]

Originally Posted by David1502

I think you are misunderstanding what Breland means when he says that he is going to model Town Madison after Cool Springs. What he is saying in the name Cool Springs is the several hundred acre mixed use area which straddles I-65 from the McEwen Drive interchange (Exit 67) up to Moore Lane (Exit 69). He is not referring just to the mall.

In 1991 Cool Springs Mall opened and gave the surrounding area the name identity which it still enjoys today, much in the same way that Perimeter Mall in suburban Atlanta caused its neighborhood to be known as Perimeter Center.

The Cool Springs are now has a significant Class A Office market which is highlighted by Nissan North America's HQ which is located on the east side of I-65. Former cow pastures are now the home of high end office space.

To get a feel for how massive the current Cool Springs area is just on the retail/restaurant side, drive down Mallory Lane (on the backside of the mall) from Moore Lane to just past McEwen Dr. (where Whole Foods is) and you will see 2 miles of an uninterrupted retail corridor and this doesn't include the power center on the east side of 65 anchored by The Home Depot.

Presently, the Cool Springs area has become the major corporate office area outside of Downtown Nashville. Louis Breland, Dale Strong and other elected officials have a vision for creating a similar large scale mixed use development with two mile of interstate highway frontage anchored by a large regional retail center (at Zierdt Rd.)

In this morning's paper edition of the HSV Times, he goes into more description of what he (Breland) envisions, saying that it will last for "hundreds of years, not just the next 10 years." This is interesting since Madison Square Mall has reached the end of its life at 30 years.

Totally agree with you, but the original articles said "Galleria" which is the actual mall. Clearly he meant the entire Cool Springs development, not the mall. Looking forward to some tenants being announced and watching it grow. Hopefully they can get some unique retail.

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by Colin Giersberg

Don't expect to see much in the way of major road construction projects in N. Alabama. Birmingham has a major project that will take a lot of the funding away from here. Check out the projected cost near the top. While I can't prove that road projects in N. Alabama will be minimal, N. Alabama did take a hit when the interchange for I-22/I-65 was let and this new project is even more expensive.
http://alletting.dot.state.al.us/PROPITEMS/20160122/PITEMS999.pdf

Actually, in the situation of the 20/59 viaduct replacement, ALDOT was slightly responsible, only insofar as financials go. They've been squirreling away money each year for the past 5 to 10 years so that the construction of this monstrosity wouldn't impact other construction around the state.

[TimCity2000]

yeah, pretty sure nobody is building a new enclosed mall these days.