Stadiums & Arenas of Canada, Part 3

[esquire]

Anyone else reminded of the 1994 West Final when they saw that picture?

[thewave46]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

I love that we build stadiums in this country like we live in a sub tropical cliamte.

The built a huge dome for Toronto. Then everybody whined it cost too much, was too big, and that we now need a new open-air ballfield for reasons.

As for McMahon, eh. For the dozen times it get used per year, enjoy the ambience and put on a warm jacket for the few cold games and drink more, ya whiners.

Seriously, McMahon could use a little love though.

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by Nashe

We are a hardy (and cheap!) people.

Not cheap... value-oriented.

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[elly63]

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

Not cheap... value-oriented.

Glad you used that word, a million years ago, I learned in Communication class that using orientated wasn't proper usage. The English (British) do it all the time. Probably one of those words that has now become acceptable.

While I am ranting, why don't people say the(e) any more when the next word begins with a vowel ie on the(e) ice.

Also why do people use loose when they mean lose 98% of the time on the Internet. That never happened before then, we were taught the difference.

This rant brought to you by the letters A, C, and F.

[WhipperSnapper]

I don't recall ever learning to say the'e when the next word starts with a vowel.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by thewave46

Seriously, McMahon could use a little love though.

Blast from the past (ten years ago)

CFL boss calls for McMahon Stadium facelift
Calgary needs to catch up with upgrades in other cities, says Cohon
Kristen Odland, Calgary Herald July 19, 2012

A positive start to the 2012 Canadian Football League campaign, new football stadiums, and the 100th Grey Cup were among the topics of discussion on Mark Cohon’s quick stopover in Calgary on Thursday night.

The CFL commissioner gave a quick update to fans at McMahon Stadium’s Red and White Club before getting down to business with the media.

“I’m excited about the start of the season,” Cohon said. “It’s been very competitive, scoring is up, a lot of games have been close, great storylines. When you look at the play on the field, that’s great.

“Our ratings are up again this year, which is great. More and more young people are watching the game.”

The CFL is also trying to give people a reason to watch at the end of the season, too, creating a considerable buzz over the 100th Grey Cup on Nov. 25 in Toronto.

“All the things we’re rolling out, the excitement we’re trying to build in Toronto, that’s where the focus of the league is right now,” he said. “One of the reasons why we put the 100th Grey Cup in Toronto is to galvanize people in Ontario. I think we’re starting to see that. I think there’s a lot of excitement around the Argos and the Tiger-Cats. The new stadiums that are being announced . . .”

Speaking of new buildings, with the support of the CFL, the city of Regina, and the government of Saskatchewan, the Roughriders announced the plans to build a new venue ready for the 2017 CFL season.

Plans are in the works to tear down Ivor Wynne Stadium in Hamilton at the end of the season and rebuild. Progress, Cohon said, is also being made in Ottawa. B.C. and Winnipeg are enjoying new digs while Edmonton’s Commonwealth Stadium is undergoing renovations.

So, what’s the latest news in Calgary?

“With the new ownership (the Calgary Flames), I think their focus is on figuring out a way that they can modernize or look for new opportunities for the franchise,” he said. “I think it’s in the early stages right now. But when you look across the country and see what everyone is doing, obviously they want to catch up.”

At the very least, an update, he said, is needed at McMahon Stadium.

“Listen, older venues like this do need it,” Cohon said. “I would absolutely be very supportive of them moving forward because the challenges for recruiting players, attracting fans. The fans travel around the country and see new stadiums in Winnipeg, Saskatchewan, B.C., and Hamilton.

“We want to get that in one of the hearts of the league, right here in Calgary.”

Also a hot topic of conversation in this city is the future of former Stampeders running back Joffrey Reynolds, who was once a CFL all-star earning an average of more than $100,000 a year, but now is struggling to build a life out of football and is amid various legal issues.

He said the CFL is working on developing programs to help their athletes make the transition into the working world.

An example of that is a current agreement between the CFL players’ association and Sun Life Financial to recruit players as future employees.

“One of the things we did in our collective bargaining agreement is the league is actually funding an after-CFL life, getting ready for job placement and things like that,” Cohon said. “There are already some programs to help our players and it’s important we start young with them . . . we’re urging players to prepare for life after the field.”

[elly63]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

I don't recall ever learning to say the'e when the next word starts with a vowel.

How to Pronounce the

Normally, we pronounce the with a short sound (like "thuh"). But when the comes before a vowel sound, we pronounce it as a long "thee".

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by elly63

Glad you used that word, a million years ago, I learned in Communication class that using orientated wasn't proper usage. The English (British) do it all the time. Probably one of those words that has now become acceptable.

While I am ranting, why don't people say the(e) any more when the next word begins with a vowel ie on the(e) ice.

Also why do people use loose when they mean lose 98% of the time on the Internet. That never happened before then, we were taught the difference.

This rant brought to you by the letters A, C, and F.

Also see a lot of "busses" (vs. the correct buses), "lightening" (uh, lightning) and I have a personal pet peeve against using "predominate" instead of predominant as an adjective.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

Also see a lot of "busses" (vs. the correct buses), "lightening" (uh, lightning) and I have a personal pet peeve against using "predominate" instead of predominant as an adjective.

My two favourites were:
pre Madonna - prima donna
too shay - touché

[esquire]

Originally Posted by elly63

My two favourites were:
pre Madonna - prima donna
too shay - touché

Let us not forget that all time classic, kudatah

Although it looks like foreign loan words seem to be the most susceptible to this sort of thing.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by elly63

How to Pronounce the

Normally, we pronounce the with a short sound (like "thuh"). But when the comes before a vowel sound, we pronounce it as a long "thee".

Ah. I get it now.

Still a no. I don't recall being taught this.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Ah. I get it now.

Still a no. I don't recall being taught this.

Go find people speaking on Youtube in Canada from say 20 years ago and you won't hear tha (with a following vowel). You will hear it more in the USA back then but no one said "I'm stepping on tha ice." like you do now. It was seen as low brow speech (for lack of better words)

[elly63]

Originally Posted by esquire

Let us not forget that all time classic, kudatah

Although it looks like foreign loan words seem to be the most susceptible to this sort of thing.

Down with this sort of thing!

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by elly63

Go find people speaking on Youtube in Canada from say 20 years ago and you won't hear tha (with a following vowel). You will hear it more in the USA back then but no one said "I'm stepping on tha ice." like you do now. It was seen as low brow speech (for lack of better words)

Yeah, thee ice was the popular choice in my childhood. I don't recall hearing thee apple, for example, growing up. It's interesting.

[Djeffery]

Originally Posted by elly63

Glad you used that word, a million years ago, I learned in Communication class that using orientated wasn't proper usage. The English (British) do it all the time. Probably one of those words that has now become acceptable.

While I am ranting, why don't people say the(e) any more when the next word begins with a vowel ie on the(e) ice.

Also why do people use loose when they mean lose 98% of the time on the Internet. That never happened before then, we were taught the difference.

This rant brought to you by the letters A, C, and F.

Formally when they mean formerly. And a spelling bugaboo on this board that happens way too often, boarder instead of border.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Djeffery

Formally when they mean formerly. And a spelling bugaboo on this board that happens way too often, boarder instead of border.

Never noticed the former (unintended pun), but see the latter everywhere.

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by elly63

Blast from the past (ten years ago)

CFL boss calls for McMahon Stadium facelift
Calgary needs to catch up with upgrades in other cities, says Cohon
Kristen Odland, Calgary Herald July 19, 2012

A positive start to the 2012 Canadian Football League campaign, new football stadiums, and the 100th Grey Cup were among the topics of discussion on Mark Cohon’s quick stopover in Calgary on Thursday night.

The CFL commissioner gave a quick update to fans at McMahon Stadium’s Red and White Club before getting down to business with the media.

“I’m excited about the start of the season,” Cohon said. “It’s been very competitive, scoring is up, a lot of games have been close, great storylines. When you look at the play on the field, that’s great.

“Our ratings are up again this year, which is great. More and more young people are watching the game.”

The CFL is also trying to give people a reason to watch at the end of the season, too, creating a considerable buzz over the 100th Grey Cup on Nov. 25 in Toronto.

“All the things we’re rolling out, the excitement we’re trying to build in Toronto, that’s where the focus of the league is right now,” he said. “One of the reasons why we put the 100th Grey Cup in Toronto is to galvanize people in Ontario. I think we’re starting to see that. I think there’s a lot of excitement around the Argos and the Tiger-Cats. The new stadiums that are being announced . . .”

Speaking of new buildings, with the support of the CFL, the city of Regina, and the government of Saskatchewan, the Roughriders announced the plans to build a new venue ready for the 2017 CFL season.

Plans are in the works to tear down Ivor Wynne Stadium in Hamilton at the end of the season and rebuild. Progress, Cohon said, is also being made in Ottawa. B.C. and Winnipeg are enjoying new digs while Edmonton’s Commonwealth Stadium is undergoing renovations.

So, what’s the latest news in Calgary?

“With the new ownership (the Calgary Flames), I think their focus is on figuring out a way that they can modernize or look for new opportunities for the franchise,” he said. “I think it’s in the early stages right now. But when you look across the country and see what everyone is doing, obviously they want to catch up.”

At the very least, an update, he said, is needed at McMahon Stadium.

“Listen, older venues like this do need it,” Cohon said. “I would absolutely be very supportive of them moving forward because the challenges for recruiting players, attracting fans. The fans travel around the country and see new stadiums in Winnipeg, Saskatchewan, B.C., and Hamilton.

“We want to get that in one of the hearts of the league, right here in Calgary.”

Also a hot topic of conversation in this city is the future of former Stampeders running back Joffrey Reynolds, who was once a CFL all-star earning an average of more than $100,000 a year, but now is struggling to build a life out of football and is amid various legal issues.

He said the CFL is working on developing programs to help their athletes make the transition into the working world.

An example of that is a current agreement between the CFL players’ association and Sun Life Financial to recruit players as future employees.

“One of the things we did in our collective bargaining agreement is the league is actually funding an after-CFL life, getting ready for job placement and things like that,” Cohon said. “There are already some programs to help our players and it’s important we start young with them . . . we’re urging players to prepare for life after the field.”

Reading that is depressing. Flames' ownership has done sweet dick-all (unless you count adding some port-o-potties) to improve the stadium 10 years later. The stadium is just that much closer to being condemned.

Not saying it will be condemned anytime soon, but you have to think sometime in the next 10 years there might be some structural issues with some part of the stadium. By that point it will be over 70 years old.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

Not saying it will be condemned anytime soon, but you have to think sometime in the next 10 years there might be some structural issues with some part of the stadium. By that point it will be over 70 years old.

This country is crying out for a small retractable dome (that actually works) in the range of 25-35K seats.

I know a lot of people hated the fieldhouse concept because they got all bent out of shape over some early renders that they didn't like. I still think it is the best way forward for Calgary to get a new stadium. Actually, if people think back, the final Regina stadium looked nothing like the first concept drawings.

[elly63]

Another blast from the past (June, 2012)

There was a rumour that the new Hamilton stadium would be a slightly smaller version of Apogee Stadium (University of North Texas cap 30,850/cost $78 Million US) without the upper tier on the endzone that has seats.

I know the PTB from Hamilton went on a stadium tour and gathered some ideas but I don't think it was ever stated if there was a stadium that provided the main inspiration. Now that I look at it the second photo it seems fairly similar to THF or am I wrong.

[J.OT13]

That Calgary Herald article said something about B.C. enjoying a new stadium. They mean the B.C. Place renovations? That's not a "new" stadium. Other than the visible improvements outside, what was the scope of the project?