Confederation Line (Stage 1) | In Service 1.0

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by roger1818

That is true. Many of those routes have little transit at all, let alone any transit priority.

As a regular driver on Bank st and a rider of the 6, by far the fastest time to take Bank street is in rush hour. Outside of those hours, the sacred cow of on-street parking makes going anywhere north of Billings Bridge painful. Montreal/Wellington/etc is pretty much the same. If we really wanted to improve transit (or even just general congestion) we'd have to be willing to make people walk a bit. The Glebe does have two large parking garages and a fair number of surface lots, we really could do the same on the other traditional main streets. I know business owners scream bloody murder every time that people suggest that we remove on-street parking, but I can tell you I actually avoid shopping in those areas because of the congestion outside of peak periods, it's not going to be as bad for business as they think, it might even improve things.

An interesting article for those who haven't seen it:

http://theconversation.com/parking-isnt-...taurants-as-the-owners-think-it-is-74750

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

I know business owners scream bloody murder every time that people suggest that we remove on-street parking,

A lot of people think it is drivers who want on-street parking on arterials like Bank St, but in reality it is the business owners who are the main proponents. People will park where the find a free space, but the advantages of prohibiting parking on these arterials out weigh the disadvantages.

Even if you turn those parking spaces into bus lanes, it will still be better for motorists as you don't have to stop for people trying to back into their parking spot and discover their monster SUV won't fit in the tiny spot after spending 5 minutes trying.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by roger1818

A lot of people think it is drivers who want on-street parking on arterials like Bank St, but in reality it is the business owners who are the main proponents. People will park where the find a free space, but the advantages of prohibiting parking on these arterials out weigh the disadvantages.

Most don't seem to understand the concept that making a main arterial more friendly for pedestrians increases foot traffic exponentially more than any number of nearby parking spaces possibly could.

[PHrenetic]

Good Day.

Buyer's <hidden> remorse !!!! >

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/councillor-fighting-for-access-to-lrt-land-deals-1.4585688

Quote: Councillor fighting for access to LRT land deals

An Ottawa city councillor is going to extraordinary lengths to gain access to information about expropriations and land deals that has been kept secret from the public and most council members.

Complicating matters is the fact that it was councillors themselves who demanded the information be kept under wraps.

Coun. Rick Chiarelli, who originally voted to keep the details private, is now filing a formal request for the records through the Municipal Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (MFIPPA).

UnQuote.

<SNORT> ! read the whole article for the real irony of the whole ongoing saga !

NoJoy!

[Truenorth00]

Has any though been given to how a PC government could impact Stage 2?

I am a little concerned that Ford might prove as short-sighted as Hudak on this one.

There's a tendency for some Toronto-originating politicians to think that only the GTA really needs higher-order transit.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Has any though been given to how a PC government could impact Stage 2?

I am a little concerned that Ford might prove as short-sighted as Hudak on this one.

There's a tendency for some Toronto-originating politicians to think that only the GTA really needs higher-order transit.

Probably depends on how Orleans votes.

I wouldn't say Toronto based politicians are worse. Mcguinty screwed Ottawa worse than anyone.

[Kitchissippi]

It's spring and the last LRT newsletter that they still have as a sticky on their website is now a year old. Interesting reading though it again, realizing how fast things appeared to be going in 2016 and how relatively slow last year's progress seems.

And the roadheader page is stuck in limbo. Remember the time that was updated every month?

[1overcosc]

I doubt Phase 2 is at risk from a potential change of government. Its already in procurement and politically popular in Ottawa. Infrastructure is also not something any government wants to be seen as cutting in the current climate.

[1overcosc]

I'd be more worried about losing funding for the new Civic.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

I doubt Phase 2 is at risk from a potential change of government. Its already in procurement and politically popular in Ottawa. Infrastructure is also not something any government wants to be seen as cutting in the current climate.

While you should never say never I tend to agree. With both federal and municipal funding in place it would be tough for the province to pull out now. Even if they did, I can imagine Trudeau would come to the rescue, with a federal election coming up.

[kevinbottawa]

Looking at the construction progress, I have a feeling phase 1 of the Confederation line is going to be finished before November; even before the election. I'm no construction expert, but I just don't see why it'll take another eight months to complete.

[PHrenetic]

Originally Posted by kevinbottawa

Looking at the construction progress, I have a feeling phase 1 of the Confederation line is going to be finished before November; even before the election. I'm no construction expert, but I just don't see why it'll take another eight months to complete.

Good Day.

yep...I tend to agree. I see it on my original opinion of being delayed by the sinkholes by two to three months total, giving a feel-good ahead-of-schedule handover in August and customers in September, in time for the October election run-up photo-ops.

Cynical, or what ! but I'll take it.

EnJoy!

[bikegypsy]

Originally Posted by kevinbottawa

Looking at the construction progress, I have a feeling phase 1 of the Confederation line is going to be finished before November; even before the election. I'm no construction expert, but I just don't see why it'll take another eight months to complete.

It's reasonable to assume that the line will be fully tested when handed to the city, which would require all its parts to be completed 2 or 3 months before November, while only some cosmetic work would remain to be completed.

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by bikegypsy

It's reasonable to assume that the line will be fully tested when handed to the city, which would require all its parts to be completed 2 or 3 months before November, while only some cosmetic work would remain to be completed.

It does seem like all train-related components of the line will be completed within the next couple of months. Almost all track and overhead wires/rails have been laid so that will be enough to at least get some trains out to the western section of the line to get that area tested.

[1overcosc]

We do know that when figuring out a revised handover date, November 2nd was the city's choice and RTG wanted an earlier one.

It certainly does look like not much more is left, but the optics of a second delay would be horrible so I can certainly see why the city opted for caution.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

I doubt Phase 2 is at risk from a potential change of government. Its already in procurement and politically popular in Ottawa. Infrastructure is also not something any government wants to be seen as cutting in the current climate.

I would have said this before Hudak refused to commit to Stage 2 (with some ambivalence whether he would even support Stage 1). I think there's this idea among GTA politicians that Ottawa does not really need LRT.

I wish somebody could pin down Ford or other PC leadership to get it on record whether they actually support Stage 2.

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

I would have said this before Hudak refused to commit to Stage 2 (with some ambivalence whether he would even support Stage 1). I think there's this idea among GTA politicians that Ottawa does not really need LRT.

I wish somebody could pin down Ford or other PC leadership to get it on record whether they actually support Stage 2.

Well, Stage 2 is already on the move.

Another important question would be regarding Stage 3, "3b", or even 4.

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

I would have said this before Hudak refused to commit to Stage 2 (with some ambivalence whether he would even support Stage 1). I think there's this idea among GTA politicians that Ottawa does not really need LRT.

I wish somebody could pin down Ford or other PC leadership to get it on record whether they actually support Stage 2.

Watson will almost certainly ask him during the course of the campaign.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by OCCheetos

Well, Stage 2 is already on the move.

Another important question would be regarding Stage 3, "3b", or even 4.

Hopefully across the POW bridge.

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Hopefully across the POW bridge.

Of course, but would a PC government support that? (That's what I'm wondering)