Regina Construction III - Page 324

Nathan · #**6461** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 5:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Udon'tknow

Interesting read re the current activity and plans for phase 2 of their renewal. Sounds like the next improvement is the Arena.

“The third phase is the refurbishment of the Brandt Centre, which is on our radar screen for three to five years out.”

http://leaderpost.com/news/local-news/as...s-down-evraz-redevelopment-moves-forward

credit: LP

They mentioned it in the Memorial Cup bidding articles too. Not enough time to permanently expand the seating before the event, but something that is planned for the future (filling in the other end with seating, not the old lift the roof plan).

Stormer · #**6462** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 2:44 PM**

There has never been a plan to lift the roof of the Brandt Centre. That would be an extremely difficult and expensive thing to do and would not get you any more room without expanding the footprint. The expandability of the Brandt Centre was always about building in the end seating, half of which has been done . Also never contemplated in the original design, but quite doable, is building in the concourse with suites and expanding the footprint at grade to give more circulation and concession room under the grandstands. That is pretty easy to do as the concourse is at grade.

pappcam · #**6463** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 4:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Stormer

There has never been a plan to lift the roof of the Brandt Centre. That would be an extremely difficult and expensive thing to do and would not get you any more room without expanding the footprint. The expandability of the Brandt Centre was always about building in the end seating, half of which has been done . Also never contemplated in the original design, but quite doable, is building in the concourse with suites and expanding the footprint at grade to give more circulation and concession room under the grandstands. That is pretty easy to do as the concourse is at grade.

That concourse is pretty tight at the best of times so it would be nice if they could widen it somehow, especially if they're adding another 1000 seats or so.

StealthGirl · #**6464** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 4:46 PM**

Federal money coming for Spray Pads and Rec.

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Originally Posted by CBC

The city wants to spend $500,000 on rehabilitating pads in Gocki Park, Maple Ridge Park, Parkridge Park and Rick Hansen Optimist Park — with Ottawa splitting the costs.

..Money from Ottawa is also going to several other city projects, including:

Upgraded lighting in the Murray Balfour, Jack Hamilton, Clarence Mahon and Jack Staples indoor ice arenas ($186,500, with the city matching that amount).
Upgraded lighting at the Lawson Aquatic Centre and the Fieldhouse ($200,000, with the city matching that amount).

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/makeover-regina-spray-pads-1.3942719

Still a lot of spending for the city to match. Curious to see how this goes.

curo · #**6465** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 6:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Stormer

There has never been a plan to lift the roof of the Brandt Centre. That would be an extremely difficult and expensive thing to do and would not get you any more room without expanding the footprint. The expandability of the Brandt Centre was always about building in the end seating, half of which has been done . Also never contemplated in the original design, but quite doable, is building in the concourse with suites and expanding the footprint at grade to give more circulation and concession room under the grandstands. That is pretty easy to do as the concourse is at grade.

Unfortunately adding 1000 seats to the one end will do nothing to attract more Class A concerts to Regina as you need to put a stage at one end. I am extremely frustrated how Saskatoon gets all the acts coming through and Regina gets barely anything. That said, I don't know if the rink is the only reason or if its the entertainment buyer there. At any rate, its terrible. Also, can they paint over that hideous orange!

Stormer · #**6466** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 7:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by curo

Unfortunately adding 1000 seats to the one end will do nothing to attract more Class A concerts to Regina as you need to put a stage at one end. I am extremely frustrated how Saskatoon gets all the acts coming through and Regina gets barely anything. That said, I don't know if the rink is the only reason or if its the entertainment buyer there. At any rate, its terrible. Also, can they paint over that hideous orange!

Any 40 year old arena is going to be pretty terrible. I do not see the extra concerts justifying $200 million for a new arena any time soon.

esquire · #**6467** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 7:25 PM**

Out of curiosity, where will Harvard's Tower IV be located?

HomeInMyShoes · #**6468** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 7:55 PM**

^Corner of Cornwall and 12th avenue. The construction will destroy two great structures that are almost an ideal scale for being on the park and once housed what we all want there to be in that area, a restaurant, in this case a restaurant with history and current marketing potential (used as a set in Little Mosque on the Prairies.) For me, Tower 4 should take out the atrocity of a parkade on Cornwall and rebuild it into a podium with some street retail while preservinng the buildings on 12th. But that is my opinion. I'm sure others will say the buildings are derelict and not worth saving and the Novia had no history and served bad food and they'd rather see a chain restaurant there.

As much as Harvard has been great for downtown and done some great development work over the years I think they could have done even better for the history and density of the core.

I'm curious what is going to happen to the plaza when Tower IV happens. Part of me thinks the city will have wasted a bunch of time and money on that when Harvard decides that parking and vehicular access to Tower I and Tower IV needs to be better and the plaza gets destroyed or altered a lot to support that.

esquire · #**6469** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 9:13 PM**

^ I took a look on Google Maps, and I'm of two minds. On one hand the existing buildings have a lot of potential, but at the same time a tower there would really look spectacular on the edge of the park and it would probably be quite a marketable site given the other towers nearby.

HomeInMyShoes · #**6470** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 9:42 PM**

^Take a look at the parkade just around the corner on Cornwall Street and tell me that the concept of connecting 12th to 11th with a great building there and having restaurants and maybe an upstairs gallery in the existing buildings on 12th isn't a better win.

It is in my mind anyway.

Treesplease · #**6471** Posted **Jan 19, 2017, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by UPP

Until the government decides to either downsize or impose pay cuts and then you have a government-made recession just waiting to happen in Regina.

Or start selling off crowns and watch jobs quietly bleed out the back door.

Stormer · #**6472** Posted **Jan 20, 2017, 3:55 PM**

interesting view this morning with the Leg dome breaking through the fog.

HomeInMyShoes · #**6473** Posted **Jan 20, 2017, 4:02 PM**

Nice. Low level fog from all the melting the last few days.

CoR East · #**6474** Posted **Jan 20, 2017, 10:05 PM**

Couple of big building permits for downtown this week. One for the mall and one on Hamilton

Nathan · #**6475** Posted **Jan 21, 2017, 1:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by CoR East

Couple of big building permits for downtown this week. One for the mall and one on Hamilton

Links?

SkydivePilot · #**6476** Posted **Jan 21, 2017, 4:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by curo

Unfortunately adding 1000 seats to the one end will do nothing to attract more Class A concerts to Regina as you need to put a stage at one end. I am extremely frustrated how Saskatoon gets all the acts coming through and Regina gets barely anything. That said, I don't know if the rink is the only reason or if its the entertainment buyer there. At any rate, its terrible. Also, can they paint over that hideous orange!

I soooo agree with you dude!!! The roof was originally designed to pop-up without too much fuss. Moreover, and that said, the infrastructure below grade is deteriorating.

SkydivePilot · #**6477** Posted **Jan 21, 2017, 4:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

^Corner of Cornwall and 12th avenue. The construction will destroy two great structures that are almost an ideal scale for being on the park and once housed what we all want there to be in that area, a restaurant, in this case a restaurant with history and current marketing potential (used as a set in Little Mosque on the Prairies.) For me, Tower 4 should take out the atrocity of a parkade on Cornwall and rebuild it into a podium with some street retail while preservinng the buildings on 12th. But that is my opinion. I'm sure others will say the buildings are derelict and not worth saving and the Novia had no history and served bad food and they'd rather see a chain restaurant there.

As much as Harvard has been great for downtown and done some great development work over the years I think they could have done even better for the history and density of the core.

I'm curious what is going to happen to the plaza when Tower IV happens. Part of me thinks the city will have wasted a bunch of time and money on that when Harvard decides that parking and vehicular access to Tower I and Tower IV needs to be better and the plaza gets destroyed or altered a lot to support that.

Oh yeah, the plaza would be destroyed alright --- damn. (Fiacco was pretty shortsighted about that.) If Tower IV were to be offset to the north of the building which is on the NE corner of 12th/Cornwall, that would look pretty sharp --- as opposed to being the fourth in-line. If it were to be taller, then so be it.

Stormer · #**6478** Posted **Jan 21, 2017, 10:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkydivePilot

I soooo agree with you dude!!! The roof was originally designed to pop-up without too much fuss. Moreover, and that said, the infrastructure below grade is deteriorating.

Again it is not true that the roof was designed to be raised up and as I said raising the roof would not make room for any more seats as they already go right to the outside Wall.

CoR East · #**6479** Posted **Jan 22, 2017, 1:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Links?

City does not publish the data to my knowledge, but once a permit is issued it is a public document.

Stormer · #**6480** Posted **Jan 22, 2017, 3:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by CoR East

City does not publish the data to my knowledge, but once a permit is issued it is a public document.

City posts a summary of the prior month's major permits in the first week of each month. This just has the $ amount , address and proprty type.

One could likely contact City hall and ask any time.