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Old Posted Oct 4, 2006, 5:27 PM
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Hey everyone... I am a new registered user to this forum, and have been trying to get an account for some time, quite the busy place to be.

My expertise is maps and mapping, I can be brief with the information I do have and I can go into greater detail for anyone interested.

1. the city is planning on building a road to cross the CN tracks this will make 25th Street extend to Avenue E N.

2. the city is also planning an extension for McKercher Drive to extend into Arbor Creek and connecting it to Kerr Road

3. a total of 7 (seven) neighborhoods are planned for the west end of 22nd Street

4. some other neighborhoods around the city include: Sunnyridge, Springfield and Greenwood all tailored to the North-East end. Rosewood and Brookside to the South-East end and lastly Stonebridge on the South end.

Options 1 and 2 require cooperation from Canadian National Rail in order to build over, under or through the tracks.

I also have detailed information regarding the Bethlehem Catholic High School and Tommy Douglas Collegiate and Civic Recreation Centre. The civic complex will include an actual olympic sized pool, waterslide, and two secondary pools, a hot sauna and a steamroom.

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Old Posted Oct 4, 2006, 5:39 PM
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Bryan R, do you work for the city?

Also, could you please explain the difference between a continous thematic map and a chloropleth map? I'm a bit confused on the subject. Thanks!

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Old Posted Oct 4, 2006, 5:50 PM
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1. the city is planning on building a road to cross the CN tracks this will make 25th Street extend to Avenue E N. Options 1 and 2 require cooperation from Canadian National Rail in order to build over, under or through the tracks.
Welcome Bryan_R!

I was under the impression that the 25th street extension was already approved and moving towards construction during summer 2007. The street will connect with Idywyld at the existing surface crossing of the railway beside the old railway station (station place).

Drawing: http://www.saskatoon.ca/org/municipal_engineering/construction/25_street/extension.pdf
     
     
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The McKercher Drive extension is back on? There were plans a few years back to cross over the CPR lines into Erindale. They even had a pile of dirt for the overpass.

Welcome to the forum Bryan_R.

What was the trouble in getting an account?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2006, 7:18 PM
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They seem to be in the begning stages of installing infrastructure in the area bounded by those CPR lines, the highway and the existing McKercher Dr. extension. There appears to be roadways surveyed and water and fire hydrants out there.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2006, 7:24 PM
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macca "Bryan R, do you work for the city?

Also, could you please explain the difference between a continous thematic map and a chloropleth map? I'm a bit confused on the subject. Thanks! "

Macca, for starters I do not work for the city, but I am close knit with there City Planning department, as well as other local non-profit groups and other pro-Saskatoon agencies.

As per your second question which is quite vague... I will do my best with this one:

choropleth- a local Zoning map is a type of choropleth map in the way it categorizes areas among similarities but using percentages to describe what is in each ward, ie. Central Business District has 10% Industrial, 25% Residential and 65% Commercial whereas Riversdale has 15% Industrial, 80% Residential and 5% Commercial... bear with me I made these figures up. Wikipedia says a choropleth map is a map in which areas are shaded or patterened in proportion to the measurement of the statistical variable being displayed on the map, such as population density or per-capita income. It provides a easy way to visualize how a measurement varies across a geographic area.

thematic- Thematic maps usually focus on a specific puprose ie. downtown's population between 1970 and 2000, but these types of maps can also include choropleth maps as well, due to the similar nature. The internet says a map related to a topic, theme or subject. These maps emphasize a single topic such as yield, soil type, or land ownership.

I hope this helps Macca.

Stewie and Dalreg, unfortunetely the railway hates to let anyoen or anythign try to use there tracks, I had spoken with Mr. Atch about this on the weekend and he had roughly told me that the City is doing its best as to work out an arrangement between CPR and the City. The 25th Street extension would have to cross 3 seperate tracks and the McKercher extension would only have to cross one. There are a lot of restrictions for private and public rail crossings, first of all you have to have some money bags of course to catch the attention of CPR. I will look into this a little more and keep you posted but the decision to cross these rails has not been given the full go ahead.
     
     
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For those who don't read the local fishwrap...

Block 146 Fate Uncertain
No development planned yet for area near Galaxy Theatre


Published: Thursday, October 05, 2006

Cineplex Galaxy Saskatoon has been drawing patrons to Hollywood's latest offerings for a month now, but there is no blockbuster development ready to be unveiled for the rest of the downtown city block on which the theatre sits.

The fate of the remaining part of Block 146, as it has come to be known, is in the hands of Tonko Realty Advisors, a Calgary land development and management firm. Tonko has been handed the task of marketing the remaining Block 146 land as well as managing the theatre lease for Greystone Managed Investments Inc. of Regina.

Greystone, on behalf of a multitude of public-sector employee pension funds, bought the land from Princeton Developments Ltd., an Edmonton company that has sold off all of its Western Canada holdings in the past year. These pension funds have real estate holdings across Canada.

Princeton owned Block 146 for most of this decade after buying the land, which had been assembled many years earlier by the city. Former Princeton official Lanny White was recognized last week at the gala opening of the Cineplex Galaxy for his work in signing up the theatre chain to lease the site.

Peter Cohos, the principal partner with Tonko, says it's only in the past few months that Greystone has assigned his company the task of marketing the balance of the Block 146 land.

In his visits to the city to look over the site, Cohos sees a two-pronged approach to getting development on the rest of the block.

To the south of the main entrance to the theatre is a strip of land that Cohos is calling "parcel two," which is open for retail development. That land runs from the city sidewalk on Second Avenue, south along the east wall of the theatre.

"The plan is to build anywhere between 10,000 to 12,000 square feet of retail space that they would hope would be complementary to the movie theatre," Cohos said, adding that retail includes restaurant space.

"The obvious thing is you put up a restaurant there and the business community would use it at lunch time and the crowd wanting to go to the theatre at night would use it then."

The big question is what will happen with the land south of the theatre, which is now a gravel parking lot and comprises at least 50 per cent of the total Block 146 site.

Cohos says that land and its possible use is a "blank canvas" right now and will depend on how quickly developments at the nearby River Landing project occur.

"We are very intrigued to see what happens with the south lands. In other words, will Ellen Remai go ahead and build the condo and the hotel?" Cohos said, adding how quickly Persephone Theatre gets built and what other government money that helps to attract will also be a factor.

Should Remai's company place a condo tower adjacent to its proposed hotel spa, then Block 146 could have residential development as well, he said.

"It could also be an office building in that location. It would be kind of a lovely place to have an office building if Mrs. Remai actually builds the hotel and there was food facilities and a person could go for a lovely walk along the river walk."

Cohos says Tonko won't sit passively on the land, as the pension funds that now own Block 146 will only maximize their return if the land is developed.

"On the flip side though, let's not build something for the sake of building and have it become a financial disaster for those pensioners as well," he said.

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Hey Bryan R, do you have any maps that show population density?
     
     
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Would they, or could they build a full grocery store? I'm thinking a small sobeys or something of that nature on that south portion of block 146, or a combination of residental units on top of a grocery store. Density is key.
     
     
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That's not a bad idea, but I doubt we would see that. We're still in full scale sprawl mode here (I took a little tour out past Confederation on 22nd St. West last night...the density is key message has been lost on some). Two other considerations: The Farmers Market will soon be taking up permamnent residence about two blocks from there and, at present, the majority of downtown residential is at the north side of the core.
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The 25th Street extension would have to cross 3 seperate tracks and the McKercher extension would only have to cross one.
Actually the McKercher extension will cross 8 tracks going directly across the rail yard before travelling through the allotted space between the rear portion of Beckett Crescent and Overholt, then intersecting with Kerr and then through to Berini. I have not heard of any timelines for this to date, but the sooner the better, because it would cut the traffic through the hwy 5 and McOromond Road intersection by a lot.

If there was so much uncertainty with the 25th street extention, why would city council announce to the public that it is going ahead beginning Spring 2007? I have never seen the city announce something like this without the legwork being done already.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2006, 4:23 PM
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Stewie, Thanks for pointing out the more detailed version of the rail crossings in the city, though I gathered that my information was well trusted. Though I clearly may have been proven otherwise.

How many people in here either attend or watch the City Council meetings?

Swilley, I will have to check my image banks to see if I have a map for you, I will keep you posted though.
     
     
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I sometimes watch them on the tube. Never seen one live.
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I usually catch them on Shaw. I've been to a few live ones as well, usually when a controversial issue might be discussed.
Pros: Its free admission and you're able to observe more than what the camera might show(???), seating is comfortable, possibly free coffee???
Cons:The decor is pretty bland, and theres no cup holders.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2006, 10:38 PM
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I'm desperate for news. This is depressing. Some aspects of the Block 146 article are encouraging, but it still seems like developers are very cautious about Saskatoon.

This week's rumor: Giant Tiger may move into the old Extra Foods space on Central Ave. That's as exciting as it gets.
     
     
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Well, there's some development re: Meridian on Broadway.

They put one of those new garbage/recycle bins out front.

On that note, I'll show myself the door.
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I have it on (somewhat) good authority that the former Urban Adventure space will become an "upscale" Lu Lu Lemon store. No details on what will happen with the old Lu Lu or what "upscale" means.
     
     
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/\ I heard (from a friend of the owner) something very similar...Lululemon will shift operations to the former Urban Adventure space and the current Lululemon location, under the same owenership, will feature more casual (ie. less sporty) attire.

Happy it's not moving to Stonegate of Stonebridge or whatever the crap they're calling that new development.
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Have you heard about the relocation of Compusmart on 42nd... supposedly it is moving to Preston Crossing Phase 2??

I have a map for you Swilley, it was outdated, so I completed a new one with current census figures. It is large though and likely would need to be left in a ftp account, over 10 MB. Just let me know what you would like me to do with it.
     
     
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Slow news day, so this'll have to do. The Meridian unveiling it ain't...

More Affordable Housing for Low Income Families

Written by Sharon Vanhouwe
Tuesday, 10 October 2006

A ten million dollar affordable housing project for low income families will be built in Pleasant Hill.

Included in the project is a 37 unit apartment building, an 18 unit townhouse complex and a satellite office for the Saskatoon Housing Authority.

Both the apartments and townhouses will be sold, not rented out.

A sod turning, for the project, that will be built at Avenue 'K' and 20th Street was held in Saskatoon this morning (Tues).

The ten million dollar price tag will be paid by 3 parties.

The City of Saskatoon will kick in a million dollars, the province will pay 4 million and the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation will contribute 5 million.

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Hammers Echo Over Saskatoon
October 10, 2006

The Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation is out with the latest new housing numbers, and the number of new places going up in the city of bridges is up 51% in Saskatoon, up 9% in Regina and ahead in the Battlefords, too.

Everywhere else there are fewer new houses going up, but the CMHC believes that will change next year as the employment numbers go up in other cities and towns around Saskatchewan.

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