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Old Posted Jan 10, 2022, 10:38 PM
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I dunno. Probably better than these crappy white plastic siding buildings out that way. They are horrendous. The siding looks like it's falling off.

This new one has some flare at least haha or something.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 3:03 AM
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I dunno. Probably better than these crappy white plastic siding buildings out that way. They are horrendous. The siding looks like it's falling off.
That is a candidate for Winnipeg's ugliest new residential so far this century. It looked bad right from day one.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 4:26 PM
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That is a candidate for Winnipeg's ugliest new residential so far this century. It looked bad right from day one.
I'm sorry, did you say "new"... those are disgusting. The sheds in my backyard look more inhabitable.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 4:31 PM
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I've done a lot of traveling in Central America, and I can't quite figure out why bright colours can look so amazing on their buildings, but we never seem to be able to use colour in the same way here...

     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 4:33 PM
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I'm sorry, did you say "new"... those are disgusting. The sheds in my backyard look more inhabitable.
Well, relatively new. They are maybe about 15 years old? They look like something you might expect to see at a Hydro dam construction site in the bush way up north.

Those might be a good candidate for the Ugly Canada thread
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 4:36 PM
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Well, relatively new. They are maybe about 15 years old? They look like something you might expect to see at a Hydro dam construction site in the bush way up north.

Those might be a good candidate for the Ugly Canada thread
wow I hate those lol

I'm honestly more bothered that they are floating in a sea of parking... even funnier when you look at it from above, its the same amount as the Walmart parking nearby... (IK it's suburbia but come on!)
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 5:14 PM
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hilarious article in the paper today about the wellington crescent rezoning.....it actually quoted the residents as saying, we are not NIMBY"s, we just think this single family house should be replaced by another single family house because it might set a precedent for other properties in our rich neighbourhood.....we don't mind new development as long as it keeps in character with the neighbourhood, you know, 100 year old single family houses.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/condos-draw-ire-on-crescent-576041812.html


Although the grand heritage mansion on Wellington Crescent was demolished more than a year ago, community opposition to its site redevelopment has not lost momentum.

A rezoning application to allow a four-storey, eight-unit condo at 514 Wellington Cres. — site of the former Gordon House, immediately north of St. Mary’s Academy — is set to be heard today by the city centre community committee.

City of Winnipeg planning, property and development staff are recommending the committee approve the rezoning to residential multifamily-small district from its previous designation of single family.

The proposed development would include eight condo units, about 3,100 square feet each in size (totalling 24,065 sq. ft.), with 17 underground parking stalls and three drive-in entrances. The former heritage structure — completed in 1909 for prominent businessman James Thomas Gordon (1858-1919) — was about 8,000 sq. ft.

Christine Skene, one of the neighbourhood residents who have fought both the demolition and redevelopment of the site, said a number will be present in person or virtually to voice their opposition.

A 21-page submission against the rezoning application has been prepared by a residents committee, who have been knocking heads with the current property owner — a company headed by Winnipeg businessman Jeff Thompson — every step of the way.

The submission, signed by neighbourhood resident and lawyer Richard Leipsic, says: "Allowing a residential home to fall into disrepair such that a demolition permit can be awarded on grounds of public safety is a devious and mischievous tactic. The city should have held the owner to the same requirements as a normal request for a demolition permit, namely replacing it with a similar single-family residential home."

Skene said despite the fact the developer has ostensibly followed all city guidelines, including public consultations, she believes the plan violates several zoning restrictions.

"The public consultation in the fall was a joke," she said. "It was just a sell job."

The developer’s proposal contravenes the spirit of the Heritage Conservations District application pending for the neighbourhood and violates height restrictions, Skene said. After promises were made to leave all trees on the property intact, the plan now calls for some to be removed, she claimed.

Residents had organized to maintain the character of the tony neighbourhood long before Thompson bought the property from former senator Douglas Everett (who died in 2018).

They successfully fought the demolition for more than a year, and claim the house was structurally in mint condition when it came down.

"We watched the demolition. They had to claw it apart," Skene said. "It didn’t even shake when they hit it with the big bucket… It was absolutely heartbreaking."

Thompson was not available for comment Monday; an associate said it appears the rezoning application process has gone smoothly.

In a statement, James Veitch, Winnipeg acting manager of urban planning and design, said: "The city was thorough in its review of the property prior to making its current recommendation… After the property owner acquired a demolition permit, we paused those actions to allow for a review of the property because of its location within a nominated heritage conservation district. After reviewing the property and consulting with the owner, the city is moving forward with a recommendation that supports rezoning of the property."

Skene says it is not a not-in-my-backyard argument: the residents group welcomes neighbourhood development, as long as it is within the already agreed-upon parameters.

In his submission, Leipsic wrote: "If endorsed by approving the rezoning application, this precedent will send the wrong message, will be replicated, and serve as a road map to other developers."

The process of seeking and obtaining agreements from the city for development needs to be overhauled, Skene added.

The rezoning application includes costly and extensive work the developer has clearly already undertaken to design and plan the development, she said.

Skene said rezoning should come at the beginning of the process, before the developer incurs the expense of professional services.

"The city needs to listen to the neighbours," she said. "I don’t think the city has an obligation to bail out a developer that has made a bad decision. (Thompson) knew from Day 1 that his decision was not going to fly."
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 5:31 PM
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Whatever. Wellington Cr. east of Academy is mostly multifamily and has been since probably the 60s if not earlier. Probably well over 90% of residents along that stretch live in MURBs ranging from townhouses to walkups to high rises.
     
     
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Christine Skene and her well-to-do NIMBY ilk are going to eat shit on this one, and be angry and bitter about it for the rest of their lives, and I’m ok with that.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 6:42 PM
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If you want to hear the NIMBYs go on a tantrum the application for *514 Wellington has just started. The McMillan proposal NIMBYs were quite amusing as well.

Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfbCKruzffI&ab_channel=CityofWinnipeg

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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 6:49 PM
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If you want to hear the NIMBYs go on a tantrum the application for 529 Wellington has just started. The McMillan proposal NIMBYs were quite amusing as well.

Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfbCKruzffI&ab_channel=CityofWinnipeg
Uh, 514 Wellington, right? Or is something happening with the steakhouse, too?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 6:54 PM
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Uh, 514 Wellington, right? Or is something happening with the steakhouse, too?
Yes my apologies I am referring to 514 Wellington.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 7:19 PM
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I can see the opposition. At that location, as mentioned, seems reasonable. Maybe should take away the fancy steakhouse. I bet there'd be uproar haha.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 10:19 PM
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It was rejected
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 10:24 PM
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Ironclad strikes again with a massive development on Templeton/Pipeline approved for construction and slated to begin later this year. It's a 304 unit development with three 6 storey buildings. Northwest Winnipeg is experiencing unbelievable growth at the moment it might be the hottest area of the city.

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That's a lot of multi family going up on that stretch of Templeton. There's one under construction half way to mcphillips, and a jim gauthier 55+ project getting under way right behind the Kia dealership.
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It was rejected
The rezoning application you mean? Or the opposition?

Are details posted yet?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 10:29 PM
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The rezoning application you mean? Or the opposition?

Are details posted yet?
Sorry, I should have been clearer. They rejected the rezoning application. I was watching the council on and off this afternoon - I don't see the details online yet.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 10:49 PM
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unbelievable.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 11:18 PM
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The Charleswood development at Roblin got canned and now this project is on the shelves.

But I've heard so many people tell me developers run City Hall... Oh wait it's actually the NIMBYs.

Is it really that big of a deal to live next to a multi-family development? I live next to condos and have had never had a problem finding parking on the street or felt inconvenienced in any sort of way because of them. Sure they block my view of the entrance to Bridgwater but it's not like my quality of life suffers and it's not even that pleasant of a view lol.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2022, 11:36 PM
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A lot of the complaints had to do with the precedent it set by allowing that house to rot for condos. As well as the city still hasn't voted on the Crestwood Historic preservation district (which is being voted on in a few months?). So I think this project will be revisited again.

I will add that there were lots of traffic complaints which is typical for NIMBY's. However, I went to Kelvin High School and I will tell you that parking is always insane there.

I watched the meeting while I was working and I actually began to agree with some of the arguments - especially the precedent it sets. I think this particular development's circumstances were just really misfortunate on all sides.
     
     
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