CHICAGO | Cirrus & Cascade (LSE) | 562' & 403' FT | 52 & 37 FLOORS

[BonoboZill4]

Originally Posted by ChiPlanner

Sales Center
Permit issued: 7/22/2019
Address: 408 E South Water St
NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A TRIPLE-WIDE TRAILER FOR USE AS A 3-YEAR TEMPORARY SALES CENTER FOR LENDLEASE AS PER PLANS.

Okay, good to know!

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by BonoboZill4

Here's the big update, friends:

Great update

So how many sites is CASE on now? One Chicago, 353 W Grand, Cirrus/Cascade to start. Making swiss cheese out of the Chicago landscape.

[maru2501]

[Chi-Sky21]

at this point would it be premature banaculation?

[maru2501]

Originally Posted by Chi-Sky21

at this point would it be premature banaculation?

no I take pills now

[phanta721]

[bgsrand]

General question on caisson locations....obviously there is site survey work done before Case arrives onsite but is there someone there who premarks the locations of each caisson, do they measure the site based off plans? I only see pictures so I never see the work that gets done prior to the drilling.

[harryc]

Originally Posted by bgsrand

General question on caisson locations....obviously there is site survey work done before Case arrives onsite but is there someone there who premarks the locations of each caisson, do they measure the site based off plans? I only see pictures so I never see the work that gets done prior to the drilling.

After the site is prepped Somebody comes out and puts in stakes in the appropriate places. I think they then verify the exact location with surveyors before the bit bites the soil. Given the amount of driving around with big and small vehicles I don't think they even put the stakes in until the rig is in place.

Definitely UC, watched them pouring a pier today.

[cozy]

Thanks for the update bono

[Tom In Chicago]

Some snapshots from yesterday. . . looks like a good start. . .

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[The Pimp]

These two buildings are nothing but filler. I'm very disappointed. Such a prominent location only to have two turds go up.

[Donnie77]

Originally Posted by The Pimp

These two buildings are nothing but filler. I'm very disappointed. Such a prominent location only to have two turds go up.

Yes because who doesn't love living next to a noisy highway? Apparently now days all of Chicago is is a prominent location....

[chicubs111]

Originally Posted by Donnie77

Yes because who doesn't love living next to a noisy highway? Apparently now days all of Chicago is is a prominent location....

umm...you serious?...these building have unobstructed lake views forever...there are only so many of these types of open land plots available on the north side..let alone the heart of the city.....and yes lakeshore drive apartments next to a "noisy highway" are never a big seller … I understand they negotiated for smaller buildings here so the corner lot could get taller but I mean anything less than 60 floors at this locations does seem like a waste

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by chicubs111

I understand they negotiated for smaller buildings here so the corner lot could get taller but I mean anything less than 60 floors at this locations does seem like a waste

from a skyline perspective, that's a pretty great trade.

i'd MUCH rather have a 950 footer with two shorter sidekicks than three ~700' buildings at this location.

[Donnie77]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

from a skyline perspective, that's a pretty great trade.

i'd MUCH rather have a 950 footer with two shorter sidekicks than three ~700' buildings at this location.

Good point

[chicubs111]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

from a skyline perspective, that's a pretty great trade.

i'd MUCH rather have a 950 footer with two shorter sidekicks than three ~700' buildings at this location.

dont know...how about just two 900 ft buildings and no third building?...anyways i would prefer all 3 buildings to be allowed to build to maximum or atleast 900ft considering there all bordering the highway and have permanent lake views... i guess the zoning of lakeshoreast at the time didn't have that in mind.

[rlw777]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

from a skyline perspective, that's a pretty great trade.

i'd MUCH rather have a 950 footer with two shorter sidekicks than three ~700' buildings at this location.

also having mostly somewhat shorter buildings at the lake shore allows for more depth in the skyline and is actually a better strategy for maximizing the value of the land both at the lake shore and further inland.

[HomrQT]

Originally Posted by Donnie77

Yes because who doesn't love living next to a noisy highway? Apparently now days all of Chicago is is a prominent location....

To be fair this is Lake Shore East, and at this point most of downtown is a "prominent location" in relation to the rest of the city as we march ever along into the "Manhattanization" (read all lot parcels being gobbled up) of downtown Chicago.

[cozy]

Originally Posted by The Pimp

These two buildings are nothing but filler. I'm very disappointed. Such a prominent location only to have two turds go up.

I don't mind the turds (they really are such boring buildings, but huge buildings nonetheless). Help fuel the city's economy and drive construction for the next cycle - we can't always win with these profit-focused developers and we can't forget how much more room we have along the north and south branch of the river for the coming decades. Hopefully we will see our skyline expand (the 78, Lincoln Yards) as well as improve (Parcel I, Spire site).

[LouisVanDerWright]

^^^^

A. Are those gold stripes? That's pretty bold.

B. Between this pair and Vista LSE is going to really be transformed when it comes to connectvity. It will be possible to meanader in off the lakefront and right up onto Upper Wacker or over to Maggie Daley Park, no more endless flights of stairs and underground streets. A whole new pathway to the Lakefront and loop connecting the River, Lake, and Grant/Daley/Millenium Park.