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Are we going to rename this "Corso Italia Village"?
Wondering the same. Gladstone sounds far better. Just find another Gladstone to name it after.
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City grabbing federal land near Little Italy to complete land assembly for major infill community

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Feb 23, 2021 • 38 minutes ago • 4 minute read




The City of Ottawa has lined up the missing piece in a major infill development near the future Corso Italia Station after negotiating steep discounts on 6.3 acres of federal land.

A report published ahead of a finance and economic development committee meeting next Tuesday says city staff have nearly finished a deal to complete the property assembly for Gladstone Village. City council and the federal Treasury Board need to sign off.

Combined with land previously acquired by Ottawa Community Housing (OCH), the Public Service and Procurement Canada property at 1010 Somerset St. W. will become a huge expansion of a Little Italy neighbourhood along the Trillium Line.

“The opportunities are tremendous to build the type of neighbourhood that we always want but it’s hard to get there because you don’t have the space to do it,” Somerset Coun. Catherine McKenney said Tuesday.

Considering all the public land available for transformation between Somerset Street and Gladstone Avenue — including the Plant Recreation Centre and Plouffe Park — OCH and the city have 21 acres to play with in creating a new community.

It was no secret that the city was negotiating with the federal government for the Somerset Street site. The federal government wanted to unload the property and the city was the natural buyer, considering OCH scooped up the southern portion of the block.

The only question was how much it would cost Ottawa’s property taxpayers.

The federal government has taken the $25-million market value of the land and applied $14 million in discounts, recognizing the city’s intentions for creating a new community aligned with federal policies.

After settling on the $11-million purchase price, the city began negotiations with the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. under a federal lands initiative for affordable housing communities. The city managed to get $8.58 million to put toward the remaining purchase price of the land.

The city says the leftover cost, after factoring in closing expenses and taxes, is $2.87 million. To cover it, the city proposes to take $1 million from the Somerset ward parkland reserve fund and another $1.82 million from a citywide parkland fund, leaving the city’s real estate office to swallow the remaining $50,000 through its operating budget.

In 2017, OCH acquired the southern portion of the block along Gladstone Avenue for $7 million to build a 1,160-home development next to Corso Italia Station at Gladstone Avenue. Construction of the first phase is expected to start later this year.

Disposal of the Somerset Street federal property was under negotiation between the federal government and the city for five years.

McKenney, who’s the council’s liaison for housing and homelessness issues and sits on the OCH board, said Gladstone Village’s housing mix of affordable, deeply affordable and market-priced units will make it a well-rounded community with the potential to finally give the central area a significant new park.

“We need to ensure with 1010 Somerset those buildings come down and we build that park and we invest in this community, because you can’t put that amount of housing into the neighbourhood without the park space and the amenity space,” McKenney said.

While the city wants the Somerset Street side of the land to be a “community hub,” it has opened the door to selling some of the area for development to offset costs of its own work on the property. In its negotiations with the federal government, the city committed 70 per cent of the Somerset Street land for public uses.

The high-level development plan for the Somerset Street side also includes a new French public elementary school. The city and the Conseil des écoles publiques de l’est de l’Ontario have a memorandum of understanding to negotiate the school board’s land use.

The Algonquins of Ontario (AOO), the organization that recently scored a huge win by convincing council to include its rural southeast development land inside a new urban boundary, is poised to play a significant role in Gladstone Village, too.

According to the staff report, the federal government sent consultation letters to Kitigan Zibi Anishinabeg, Algonquin Anishinabeg Nation Tribal Council and the Algonquins of Ontario (AOO) as part of the disposal process, but only AOO signalled an interest in the land.

The city and AOO are entering into an agreement on “business opportunities for Indigenous peoples and support arts and culture through a commitment to create space for Indigenous artists within the project’s new recreation infrastructure,” the staff report says.

The city has also committed to explore connecting Gladstone Village to a federal district energy system using the Trillium Line corridor.

The city would need to remove $400,000 from citywide reserves to fund a detailed concept plan for the land.

A secondary plan for the area — the Corso Italia District Secondary Plan — is scheduled to be considered by the planning committee on Thursday.

The secondary plan calls for towers up to 30 storeys in the OCH development area near Gladstone Avenue, while the city also envisions a potential 30-storey development on the Somerset Street end of the land.

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Old Posted Feb 23, 2021, 10:24 PM
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Isn't that interesting...

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The Algonquins of Ontario (AOO), the organization that recently scored a huge win by convincing council to include its rural southeast development land inside a new urban boundary, is poised to play a significant role in Gladstone Village, too.

According to the staff report, the federal government sent consultation letters to Kitigan Zibi Anishinabeg, Algonquin Anishinabeg Nation Tribal Council and the Algonquins of Ontario (AOO) as part of the disposal process, but only AOO signalled an interest in the land.
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Can't wait to see this plan come to fruition. It will be a game changer to expanding the urbanized area around the future station, and increase Trillium ridership significantly.

Here's another view of the masterplan that shows the expanded Plante Baths.


https://twitter.com/BikeOttawa/statu...38563100921856
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Can't wait to see this plan come to fruition. It will be a game changer to expanding the urbanized area around the future station, and increase Trillium ridership significantly.

Here's another view of the masterplan that shows the expanded Plante Baths.
Definitely. I can see it being an attractive spot for anyone working/going to Carleton, working downtown, Tunney's or the new hospital and not wanting to drive. You're only a few stops away via train. Hopefully Trillium Line frequency will be increased and is reliable when the expansion is done to make this a viable scenario.
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Definitely. I can see it being an attractive spot for anyone working/going to Carleton, working downtown, Tunney's or the new hospital and not wanting to drive. You're only a few stops away via train. Hopefully Trillium Line frequency will be increased and is reliable when the expansion is done to make this a viable scenario.
I foresee some significant ridership increase along the northern section of the line. This project alone could easily add 10k-15k people. Another 5k at Dow's Lake and Bayview each, and the hospital. I can't see Trillium have enough capacity 10 years out. If they could upgrade the line north of South Keys to allow 6 minute frequencies within 10 years, that could provide enough capacity to keep-up with growth.
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I tried to watch yesterday's Planning Commitee meeting, but the audio and video are WAY out of sync.
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I tried to watch yesterday's Planning Commitee meeting, but the audio and video are WAY out of sync.
They either fixed the link or my internet was wonky. Presentation starts a little after 35 minutes

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City of Ottawa document with more site plans pages 32-36.

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/do...ppend_a_en.pdf
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City of Ottawa document with more site plans pages 32-36.

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/do...ppend_a_en.pdf






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I hope the Adult High School is preserved. It's a great piece of mid-Century architecture.

It opened in 1965 at the High School of Commerce. The Commerce school closed in 1990 due to declining enrollment and re-opened the same year as an adult high school.


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I hope the Adult High School is preserved. It's a great piece of mid-Century architecture.

It opened in 1965 at the High School of Commerce. The Commerce school closed in 1990 due to declining enrollment and re-opened the same year as an adult high school.


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“The Adult High School (300 Rochester Street) will continue its institutional role and serve the community and the broader City. As it redevelops, it should adhere to Mainstreet policies.”
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I communicated with someone from Heritage Ottawa a few years ago when I considering writing a piece on the Adult High School and its impending demolition with regards to the Gladstone CDP. This is from the email they sent me. I recognize how it may need to be renovated and how the podium plays a role in how it interacts with Gladstone and the yard behind it. But the three-building complex with a plaza in between and a courtyard skylight. It's a pretty interesting building. I'm sure that as the area grows they may need a school in the future, anyway.

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It was the High School of Commerce from its construction in 1967 until it became the Adult High School in 1990.

Before 1967 the High School of Commerce was housed in the west end of the Glebe Collegiate building on Bronson.

The 1967 building was designed by Ottawa-born architect Sydney Lithwick, who died in 2008
(obituary at http://www.canada.com/story_print.ht...d7313&sponsor=

Heritage Ottawa would certainly be concerned about any plans to demolish the building, without considering first its importance as an example of modernist architecture and a symbol of the building boom that culminated in Centennial year, 1967.
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I communicated with someone from Heritage Ottawa a few years ago when I considering writing a piece on the Adult High School and its impending demolition with regards to the Gladstone CDP. This is from the email they sent me. I recognize how it may need to be renovated and how the podium plays a role in how it interacts with Gladstone and the yard behind it. But the three-building complex with a plaza in between and a courtyard skylight. It's a pretty interesting building. I'm sure that as the area grows they may need a school in the future, anyway.
Heritage Ottawa is often behind the 8-ball, I find. The Chateau Laurier is a great example of this, where they raised alarms after an expansion was proposed instead of years earlier when they should have been aware that zoning could allow something like this to happen.

There are other examples of heritage buildings that they've tried to save after the order to demo was put out.

Don't get me wrong, Heritage Ottawa is a great organization that deserves our praise, but I wish they were a little more proactive once in a while.
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Heritage Ottawa is often behind the 8-ball, I find. The Chateau Laurier is a great example of this, where they raised alarms after an expansion was proposed instead of years earlier when they should have been aware that zoning could allow something like this to happen.

There are other examples of heritage buildings that they've tried to save after the order to demo was put out.

Don't get me wrong, Heritage Ottawa is a great organization that deserves our praise, but I wish they were a little more proactive once in a while.
Oh, I definitely agree. Heritage stuff only gets brought up after a demolition is about to happen. When I sent the email to them a few years ago I pointed out that the plan was to demolish the school, but I doubt that they'd bother to do anything until the last minute when it's too late to save it. There is a lot they could do to research buildings in Ottawa and work on getting heritage status or something to preserve the buildings we should preserve before it's too late.

I wonder what Phyllis Lambert did to save Old Montreal from demolition...
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Plan of subdivision submitted in July.

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0022/details
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What would happen to those buildings next to the Plant Recreation Centre on Somerset?
I don't see them on the maps in the City of Ottawa Gladstone Village documents.
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The first proposed building has been added to devapps and it looks terrific!

Architects are Diamond Schmitt and KWC





https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0149/details
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That is fantastic!!!
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Looks great!! I'm really surprised they are starting with that block tho. I was hoping to see the Block next to the station developed first and the one here should've been last, but im happy with anything going up here nonetheless.
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